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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed May 18, 2011 11:50 am

Lofthouse Lower wrote:No price increase, no VAT increase. New interest-free direct debit scheme to spread the cost over seven months.
So actually a price reduction. Very well done BWFC. :pray:
William the White wrote:I'm in - not sure if I'm renewing my seat though... may be returning to the LL...
Let me know if so; might try to spring for me dad's ticket again.
James B wrote:absolutely disgusting prices from arsenal. football is so f*cked in this country
And yet there's a waiting list. More proof of the haves and have-yachts. Be glad that our loyal hardcore hasn't been priced out (to anything like that extent; I'm sure there are folks who can't afford even these, perhaps the best value STs in the EPL).

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by wanderers_on_tour » Wed May 18, 2011 11:52 am

:pray: :pray: :pray: Phil Gartside (or whoever is responsible)

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed May 18, 2011 12:00 pm

thebish wrote:
jimbo wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:"All Arsenal prices do also include seven cup games"

A little presumptious, no? Do they get money back if they get put out early on? :conf:
Don't we get free tickets to reserve home games as well?
we should include free tickets to all cup finals...
My friend that you nearly met, well, one year he allowed in his budgets for the year that they should expect to get to 'at least' the fourth round of the FA Cup. They got put out by Orient in the third (true story). He hasn't done it since.

So, my question remains (and we need GG's imput here) and assuming they're not including CL games, it's all well and good saying that seven cup games are built into it but;

a/ there's no guarantee that they'll play more than two cup games.

b/ There's no guarantee that they'll play ANY cup games at The Emirates.

As such - can Arsenal supporters expect a refund on any unused from the seven allocated?
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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed May 18, 2011 12:02 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:As such - can Arsenal supporters expect a refund on any unused from the seven allocated?
No. And as an aside, the legal precedent that you can't get money back on any league games ST holders don't attend was set by Bolton Wanderers, successfully defending themselves against a court claim from someone who'd missed a game.

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by thebish » Wed May 18, 2011 12:28 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:As such - can Arsenal supporters expect a refund on any unused from the seven allocated?
No. And as an aside, the legal precedent that you can't get money back on any league games ST holders don't attend was set by Bolton Wanderers, successfully defending themselves against a court claim from someone who'd missed a game.
and that seems fair enough - just like if you buy a theatre ticket and then don't go - you can't claim your money back. A very different issue than the one Bruce poses - which would be like you buying a theatre ticket and then the theatre cancelling the performance... I'd want my money back then...

still - DSb is right - no! 8)

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by thebish » Wed May 18, 2011 12:31 pm

maybe it's more like....

buying a ticket for Haye-Klitschko (sp?)

and Haye has said he would knock Klitschko out in the 8th round

but then he knocks him out in the 2nd.

can you claim 3/4 of your ticket price back?

answer: no! 8)


I guess it might depend on wording If arsenal said "this season ticket is valid for all our home cup games" - then they are OK and the risk is your. If they specify "seven cup games" - then it is a bit odd.

the bit I quoted was from a newspaper - not from the Arsenal T&Cs for season tickets.
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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed May 18, 2011 12:32 pm

thebish wrote:A very different issue than the one Bruce poses - which would be like you buying a theatre ticket and then the theatre cancelling the performance... I'd want my money back then...
They're not exactly cancelling, there just isn't a performance. It's hardly their choice. Perhaps clubs could offer fans STs with a variety of additional cup stubs, but then why should they?

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by keveh » Wed May 18, 2011 12:33 pm

Not really much of a question, but I'll be having one!
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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by thebish » Wed May 18, 2011 12:35 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
thebish wrote:A very different issue than the one Bruce poses - which would be like you buying a theatre ticket and then the theatre cancelling the performance... I'd want my money back then...
They're not exactly cancelling, there just isn't a performance. It's hardly their choice. Perhaps clubs could offer fans STs with a variety of additional cup stubs, but then why should they?
I suspect they say nothing of the sort anyway (see my edit above) - in which case - nothing to see here!! 8)

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed May 18, 2011 12:37 pm

thebish wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:As such - can Arsenal supporters expect a refund on any unused from the seven allocated?
No. And as an aside, the legal precedent that you can't get money back on any league games ST holders don't attend was set by Bolton Wanderers, successfully defending themselves against a court claim from someone who'd missed a game.
and that seems fair enough - just like if you buy a theatre ticket and then don't go - you can't claim your money back. A very different issue than the one Bruce poses - which would be like you buying a theatre ticket and then the theatre cancelling the performance... I'd want my money back then...

still - DSb is right - no! 8)
Which would surely then invoke the 'goods not fit for the purpose for which they were sold' clause in the Sale of Goods Act, no?
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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed May 18, 2011 12:38 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Which would surely then invoke the 'goods not fit for the purpose for which they were sold' clause in the Sale of Goods Act, no?
Try it.

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed May 18, 2011 12:39 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
thebish wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:As such - can Arsenal supporters expect a refund on any unused from the seven allocated?
No. And as an aside, the legal precedent that you can't get money back on any league games ST holders don't attend was set by Bolton Wanderers, successfully defending themselves against a court claim from someone who'd missed a game.
and that seems fair enough - just like if you buy a theatre ticket and then don't go - you can't claim your money back. A very different issue than the one Bruce poses - which would be like you buying a theatre ticket and then the theatre cancelling the performance... I'd want my money back then...

still - DSb is right - no! 8)
Which would surely then invoke the 'goods not fit for the purpose for which they were sold' clause in the Sale of Goods Act, no?
Presumably when Arsenal advertise they say "includes UP TO 7 cup home games". Or something along those lines.
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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by hisroyalgingerness » Wed May 18, 2011 12:39 pm

Really happy with that, as DSB says with a "VAT-freeze" in effect the prices have been reduced. The 0% thing is ideal for me as I was looking at getting 2 half season tickets to spread my cost, this is even better.

Really good decision by the club, I hope it results in record season tickets sold.

In truth, I'd have accepted a slight increase and the 0% thing (given the APR for comparison on that last season was somert daft like 17%, maybe more)

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed May 18, 2011 12:41 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Which would surely then invoke the 'goods not fit for the purpose for which they were sold' clause in the Sale of Goods Act, no?
Try it.

Give us a grand then. :D
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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by boltonboris » Wed May 18, 2011 12:42 pm

They can make Adult season tickets £100 and give you a Mars Bar at everym home game, we still wouldn't sell them all
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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by thebish » Wed May 18, 2011 1:04 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Which would surely then invoke the 'goods not fit for the purpose for which they were sold' clause in the Sale of Goods Act, no?
Try it.

Give us a grand then. :D

first I'd check if that's what they have actually said!!! I suspect they might actually say something like "all our home cup games" - and the newspaper has totted that up to a potential "7" (not sure with what formula!)

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by superjohnmcginlay » Wed May 18, 2011 1:11 pm

No free beer. Boo. I keep telling 'em on them surveys.

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by Gooner Girl » Wed May 18, 2011 1:37 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:"All Arsenal prices do also include seven cup games"

A little presumptious, no? Do they get money back if they get put out early on? :conf:
Ah but unlike Bolton we will play in the champions league :wink: so thats 3 definite home games (4 if we have to qualify...) before you even get started on Carling Cup and FA Cup...

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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by thebish » Wed May 18, 2011 1:38 pm

Gooner Girl wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:"All Arsenal prices do also include seven cup games"

A little presumptious, no? Do they get money back if they get put out early on? :conf:
Ah but unlike Bolton we will play in the champions league :wink: so thats 3 definite home games (4 if we have to qualify...) before you even get started on Carling Cup and FA Cup...
and are chumps league games included in the season ticket?

(edit: yes!)
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Re: Season ticket 2012 thread

Post by superjohnmcginlay » Wed May 18, 2011 1:38 pm

What if you lose the qualifier?

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