gary cahill would you rather >>

[Wandering Willy]

That's an answer not a question.

[Lord Kangana]

I refer the honourable member to the previous post.

No further questions etc.

[elfil76]

look like cahill is trying to get into the JT's good books - a good word for you now, you give a good word for me in Jan.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... y_resolve/

[m_taylor]

Looks like Coyle is conceding to the fact that the board will want money.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... ld-be-sold" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[officer_dibble]

You cant put a price on zat knight returning to the team though...think hell go for free myself

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Looks like Coyle is conceding to the fact that the board will want money.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... ld-be-sold" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't know what's more boring; the boring questions he's asked about it, or the boring responses he has to give.

"...what's more important is we continue to improve as a team and continue to pick up points in the Premier League."

Missed a bit, Beano. No hamper for you.

[ChrisC]

I wonder what is more important to Gary? first team football and get picked for the Euro's or sit on a bench somewhere for more dosh but fall out of favour with Fabio. Unless he is going somewhere guaranteed first team football then I wouldn't give up on the idea of him signing another year and going in the summer after the Euro's.

[bobo the clown]

I wonder what is more important to Gary? first team football and get picked for the Euro's or sit on a bench somewhere for more dosh but fall out of favour with Fabio. Unless he is going somewhere guaranteed first team football then I wouldn't give up on the idea of him signing another year and going in the summer after the Euro's.

... if the Euro's were the big deal then being at Chelsea or similar would catch Fabio's eye.

If your 'ensure he's playing' is vital ... & it's a fair point ... then he simply sits it out here & goes for nowt in the summer.

The simple decision is whether we chose to sell him for cash in January, or hold on till June. That will be determined by his own view and how much we get offered if we do.

This is not complicated.

[a1]

You cant put a price on zat knight returning to the team though...think hell go for free myself

knight verses wheater (or cahill going leaving david and zat) is something that matters little. its the [coyle] fecking about with the rest of the team to fit the bizzarre play coyle wants that is hurting them much much more.

maybe we can't put a price on owen staying ?

[officer_dibble]

Maybe
dunno.what that has to do with my post though!

[a1]

Maybe
dunno.what that has to do with my post though!

i'm too focused on them being shite than going "zat knight is the (a?) problem". keep cahill to keep the goals down. but for the love of christ get someone in to sort the team out.

cahill + knight = ok

cahill + wheater = ok

wheater + knight = ok

its 7 million pounds worth of money at least in any combination. it'll do.

just sort the fecking team out, mr new manager.

please.

[Lord Kangana]

Fear not, the new manager will be able to buy a whole squad load of centre halves with the money Coyle refused to spend. Get that Champagne on ice, Europe here we come.

[Wandering Willy]

Fear not, the new manager will be able to buy a whole squad load of centre halves with the money Coyle refused to spend. Get that Champagne on ice, Europe here we come.

Exactly.

He will also be able to cure existing injuries forthwith.

If someone could remind me of the list of available realistic candidates I would be grateful.

[a1]

so we've painted ourselves into a corner appointing coyle in the first place ?

he can be worse than megson coz folk like him personally

he can be worse than sammy lee , too , for some reason

he can hire all his shit mates

he can have them training shite , so shite they get injured too much.

no one can say nowt against him coz he's a good lad

we carnt sack him , theres no one else.

fcukin' great.

sack him, get mark hughes, the former blackburn manager who i think might be from wales , in . then go from there.

at least then theyd play football normally.

[Worthy4England]

so we've painted ourselves into a corner appointing coyle in the first place ?

he can be worse than megson coz folk like him personally

he can be worse than sammy lee , too , for some reason

he can hire all his shit mates

he can have them training shite , so shite they get injured too much.

no one can say nowt against him coz he's a good lad

we carnt sack him , theres no one else.

fcukin' great.

sack him, get mark hughes, the former blackburn manager who i think might be from wales , in . then go from there.

at least then theyd play football normally.

There's no on else, is quite clearly bollocks. 92 league Clubs all have managers apart from the odd few that have recently jettisoned theirs. There's not any point saying x or y would be good, because all these positive people who think OC isn't taking us down, manage to become the world's most pessimistic people on this particular point, and bleat that x or y won't come here because.. And they would know this, of course, using their powers of positivity.

Either way, can't see Gartside not pulling the trigger if this continues.

[thebish]

lots of factors to balance...

I suppose at the top of the balance factors is the threat of relegation and ensuing financial meltdown

not far down is the cost of sacking Coyle and luring another one in

not far down is the transfer kitty christmas list a new manager will bring (much easier to tell Coyle there isn't one)


I'm still not at tipping point - if we did sack Coyle - then we'd start to look a bit like newcastle with a new saviour manager every year....

of course there are managers around... but what we'd be looking for is one who is better than Coyle and who would come and manage a crap team threatened with premiership relegation with no money to spend - and do a better job than Coyle is currently doing....

who's on that list?

[Wandering Willy]

There's no on else, is quite clearly bollocks. 92 league Clubs all have managers apart from the odd few that have recently jettisoned theirs. There's not any point saying x or y would be good, because all these positive people who think OC isn't taking us down, manage to become the world's most pessimistic people on this particular point, and bleat that x or y won't come here because.. And they would know this, of course, using their powers of positivity.

Either way, can't see Gartside not pulling the trigger if this continues.

Aye?

I assume we can reasonably discount League 1 and 2 managers on a premiership experience/ability level. In the Championship - we are unlikely to prise away any manager whose team is pushing for promotion eg Allardyce, so who is left that you want from there?

That leaves us with Premiership managers. I suspect we have a small chance of getting a Premiership manager who is under pressure which gives us a choice from:

Martinez
Kean
Pulis
Bruce
McCarthy.

Which one of those do you fancy can do a better job than OC given the current situation squad and moneywise?

Or perhaps we could get one one of the jobless Hughes, O"Neil or Curbishley as the saviour? First two are unlikely to come moneywise and the third , well, better than OC?

I recognise that we are in a grim situation, but wanting to keep Coyle does not imply that we are definitely not going down, but a view that given the realistic options available he still may be our best chance.

Those who call for Coyle's dismissal have yet to offer a realistic alternative who could do better. Change for the sake of it smacks of frying pan/fire.

[Worthy4England]

Given we don't know who's on that list and if we suggest anyone half decent, others will just say "X won't come here", it's a fairly pointless exercise speculating.

Fair to say there are certainly managers out there with a better prem record than OC. There are probably better managers out there that have no prem record.

[thebish]

maybe it's time to think outside that proverbial box...

what about tempting across a successful 'Murican Manager - and tapping into the Stuey Holden connections we have... or a Korean one - and getting first dibs on a new generation of CY Lees...

[thebish]

you KNOW it makes sense....

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