Down with a wimper

[Bijou Bob]

Coyle is taking a lot of stick at the moment and rightly so given his apparent complete lack of nous on even basic tactics. However, the blame for this last 5 years must rest squarely on the chairman's head. He chose to slag BSA off and lose credibility, he chose to appoint Lee, Megon and Coyle. The buck should stop there but I guarantee it won't be his head that's rolling.

What is important is that we prepare adequately for next season, with or without Coyle. This seaon is effectively over.

[davroduk]

It doesnt matter if Coyle is in the last six months of his contract as regards paying him off.
It would be cheaper to pay him to leave than to drop out of the Prem.
Pay him off and bring in someone else (dont know who but anyone would be better than Coyle)

[Whookam]

It would be cheaper to pay him to leave than to drop out of the Prem.

It would have been some weeks ago.

[One Hump Or Two?]

I'm taking it as a given that no new manager can possibly do worse than if Coyle stayed for the rest of this season. So the way I see the options is:

- sack him now. Downsides: lose a few more £££ in compensation, quite possibly go down anyway, if not find ourselves in the same situation (thin squad, no money, mediocre manager) next year. Upside: have a better chance of going down fighting. Showing some goddamn pride and guts trying to salvage our hard-won 10 year Premiership status (best in my lifetime)

- don't sack him. Downside: definitely go down, endure the most pitiful and humiliating five months most of us will ever experience as fans. Upside: avoids paying the money out if we replace him in the summer; if we don't, maybe OC can use the championship to rebuild, do a Burnley, and we end up reaping the benefits of managerial continuity.

Any game theorists out there want to put some numbers on the variables and make it a scientific calculation?

[CAPSLOCK]

Gartside went from manager at georgian house (jarvis hotel now) to chairman at bolton

What?

[davroduk]

I'm taking it as a given that no new manager can possibly do worse than if Coyle stayed for the rest of this season. So the way I see the options is:

- sack him now. Downsides: lose a few more £££ in compensation, quite possibly go down anyway, if not find ourselves in the same situation (thin squad, no money, mediocre manager) next year. Upside: have a better chance of going down fighting. Showing some goddamn pride and guts trying to salvage our hard-won 10 year Premiership status (best in my lifetime)

- don't sack him. Downside: definitely go down, endure the most pitiful and humiliating five months most of us will ever experience as fans. Upside: avoids paying the money out if we replace him in the summer; if we don't, maybe OC can use the championship to rebuild, do a Burnley, and we end up reaping the benefits of managerial continuity.

Any game theorists out there want to put some numbers on the variables and make it a scientific calculation?

Having run it through the computer the answer is............

WE ARE FECKED EITHER WAY !!!!!!!!!

[One Hump Or Two?]

I'm taking it as a given that no new manager can possibly do worse than if Coyle stayed for the rest of this season. So the way I see the options is:

- sack him now. Downsides: lose a few more £££ in compensation, quite possibly go down anyway, if not find ourselves in the same situation (thin squad, no money, mediocre manager) next year. Upside: have a better chance of going down fighting. Showing some goddamn pride and guts trying to salvage our hard-won 10 year Premiership status (best in my lifetime)

- don't sack him. Downside: definitely go down, endure the most pitiful and humiliating five months most of us will ever experience as fans. Upside: avoids paying the money out if we replace him in the summer; if we don't, maybe OC can use the championship to rebuild, do a Burnley, and we end up reaping the benefits of managerial continuity.

Any game theorists out there want to put some numbers on the variables and make it a scientific calculation?

Having run it through the computer the answer is............

WE ARE FECKED EITHER WAY !!!!!!!!!

Thanks. That has actually cheered me up a bit. Because if you don't care where you're going, any road is the right road.

[davroduk]

I'm taking it as a given that no new manager can possibly do worse than if Coyle stayed for the rest of this season. So the way I see the options is:

- sack him now. Downsides: lose a few more £££ in compensation, quite possibly go down anyway, if not find ourselves in the same situation (thin squad, no money, mediocre manager) next year. Upside: have a better chance of going down fighting. Showing some goddamn pride and guts trying to salvage our hard-won 10 year Premiership status (best in my lifetime)

- don't sack him. Downside: definitely go down, endure the most pitiful and humiliating five months most of us will ever experience as fans. Upside: avoids paying the money out if we replace him in the summer; if we don't, maybe OC can use the championship to rebuild, do a Burnley, and we end up reaping the benefits of managerial continuity.

Any game theorists out there want to put some numbers on the variables and make it a scientific calculation?

Having run it through the computer the answer is............

WE ARE FECKED EITHER WAY !!!!!!!!!

Thanks. That has actually cheered me up a bit. Because if you don't care where you're going, any road is the right road.

If the club is relegated it will go into administration (£110 million debt) .... Fecked
If Coyle stays at the club we will go down ....... Fecked
Administration will probably see the club fall into Div 1 .....Fecked
I am now going to contradict my previous tongue in cheek post..............
Getting rid of Coyle is the only chance we have to stay in the Prem and stave off disaster.
We are now in a worse position than when he took over, so anyone with half a brain can see that he cant improve the clubs position.
He has had his chance and blown it.
Time to give someone else a chance, cos we are in the "Last chance saloon"
Relegation would signal a decade of hardship for the club.
No Relegation at all cost.

[Bruce Rioja]

We will have lost half our fans by then,

Well if that half involves you then that'll be to the benefit of all!

[jaffka]

We will have lost half our fans by then,

Well if that half involves you then that'll be to the benefit of all!

I will sign up for that.

[BWFC_Insane]

We will have lost half our fans by then,

Well if that half involves you then that'll be to the benefit of all!

I will sign up for that.

Yep losing season ticket holders of 20 odd years is always a good way to go.......

[jaffka]

We will have lost half our fans by then,

Well if that half involves you then that'll be to the benefit of all!

I will sign up for that.

Yep losing season ticket holders of 20 odd years is always a good way to go.......

So you are off then?

[Lord Kangana]

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Been here before. We'll be here after Coyle.

[Mar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz48rARVOwc

Been here before. We'll be here after Coyle.

Same could be said about Div4. Doesn't mean we want it to happen.

[Lord Kangana]

Well no.

But then there'd be no c*nt on here pointing out how loyal they were if their loyalty wasn't tested.

As it happens, we're talking about relegation from the Premier League for the first time in a decade. Not to division 4.

[Mar]

As it happens, we're talking about relegation from the Premier League for the first time in a decade. Not to division 4.

From the sort of 'holy cow' moments from some of the posters you would think it was that serious. Despite our tendencies as fans to over-react we've seen situations like this before. In fact we've been at the bottom of the league for some time before. We've also had situations where we've lacked passion and fight and come out of it. Heck Allardyce's tenure wasn't all hunky dory at times, was very manic depressive at times where we had really bad streaks followed by really good streaks.

[Lord Kangana]

Its shit.

Thats football.

And life?

[Jokers in White]

Gartside went from manager at georgian house (jarvis hotel now) to chairman at bolton

What?

He was manager at georgian house which is a hotel first before he got the job has Bolton chairman, did you not know that?

[CAPSLOCK]

Who told you that?

Do you believe in the tooth fairy, as well?

[Jokers in White]

Who told you that?

Do you believe in the tooth fairy, as well?

I've heard it of alot of fans down the years too, i actually saw a picture of him with others on the wall in there when i was younger so he must of had something to do with the place. He was a businessman who was into most things, he joined the board in 1989 but was still involved in that place at that time but got the job he always wanted in 1999 when he became chairman.