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Re: Player of the Season

Post by William the White » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:47 pm

jonnycooper wrote:Leicester decided that Danns'Mills and Beckford weren't needed at their place this season''look where they are now!! And they are being lauded on here as if they are Frank Worthy..Shows how quickly we've fallen.Bogdan for me' he's been a class act since ripping his shirt back from Lonergan.Surprised he hasn't been connected to a move back to a PL Club .
Good point on Bogdan. Absolutely agree.

But - in fact, really and obviously - no one has lauded any player like they were Frankie Worthy.

We don't have anyone as gifted - or crazy - as Worthy. More's the pity.

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by Enoch » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:23 am

I don't see enough games to qualify for a vote here. From what I have seen though, our most consistent performer has been Kamara.

Bogdan's had a good season, just a handful of rickets thrown in early doors.

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by ChrisC » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:27 pm

Danns would probably edge it for me. Mills deserves a mention though. He was a forgotten man and well down the ranks before this season started. First class this season.

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:52 pm

ChrisC wrote:Danns would probably edge it for me. Mills deserves a mention though. He was a forgotten man and well down the ranks before this season started. First class this season.
Mills has played very well. And he stepped up at a time when his no nonsense style was just what we needed. I'd still give it Ream for versatility, coming back from nowhere and at times sheer class on the ball. Yes we can pick holes in the defensive side of his game but we're 15th in the 2nd tier so if we're looking for perfection here we aren't going to find it.
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Re: Player of the Season

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:01 pm

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ChrisC wrote:Danns would probably edge it for me. Mills deserves a mention though. He was a forgotten man and well down the ranks before this season started. First class this season.
Mills has played very well. And he stepped up at a time when his no nonsense style was just what we needed. I'd still give it Ream for versatility, coming back from nowhere and at times sheer class on the ball. Yes we can pick holes in the defensive side of his game but we're 15th in the 2nd tier so if we're looking for perfection here we aren't going to find it.
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Well I'd say as someone who plays as a defender that is a pretty large set of holes to ignore.

His job is to defend. He's worse at actually defending than the much maligned (and rightly so) Zat Knight.

Sure he looks nice striding out with the ball and can actually pass it. But his job, his actual job that he's paid to do, he really isn't very good at.

And whilst we're on passing shall we just ignore his awful square ball that Barnsley should have equalised from? Probably, because if they'd scored it would be Freedman's fault not Reams......

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:03 pm

If this were related to which player you'd have first on your team sheet, and signed up tight before somebody grabbed him....it would be Chungy for me. Granted I've not seen him over much lately, but half his problems seem to be that those around him don't react as fast as he does. Due to our ways of playing he spends far too much time chasing back and defending (and he does do that) which isn't the best way to see his talents, but he's one of the few we have who'll take a man on and run at him (Hall, maybe, even Hutton, but who else?).

I'll be educated differently by the regular attenders, but this is the way I see it. How much of his failings are due to those a round him?
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Re: Player of the Season

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:16 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:If this were related to which player you'd have first on your team sheet, and signed up tight before somebody grabbed him....it would be Chungy for me. Granted I've not seen him over much lately, but half his problems seem to be that those around him don't react as fast as he does. Due to our ways of playing he spends far too much time chasing back and defending (and he does do that) which isn't the best way to see his talents, but he's one of the few we have who'll take a man on and run at him (Hall, maybe, even Hutton, but who else?).

I'll be educated differently by the regular attenders, but this is the way I see it. How much of his failings are due to those a round him?
Chungy would be top of the list of players I'd be desperately trying to get rid of.

His failings are his own. Hides, goes missing, never shoots, shirks responsbility and has no end product.

Most performances this season have been Lee trying his best to stay on the edge of the game and not have to be involved.

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by StaffsTrotter » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:32 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:If this were related to which player you'd have first on your team sheet, and signed up tight before somebody grabbed him....it would be Chungy for me. Granted I've not seen him over much lately, but half his problems seem to be that those around him don't react as fast as he does. Due to our ways of playing he spends far too much time chasing back and defending (and he does do that) which isn't the best way to see his talents, but he's one of the few we have who'll take a man on and run at him (Hall, maybe, even Hutton, but who else?).

I'll be educated differently by the regular attenders, but this is the way I see it. How much of his failings are due to those a round him?
Its always a tough one to work out whether performance is down to an individual player, his teammates or the system/ way they are being told to play. Chungy hasn't really beat a man for months (?) and if he did, he probably then turned back on himself and laid it back. Feeney showed what difference a more direct style could make, but whether any fecker could keep up is a different matter. I must say I thought Hall on saturday looked a bit more chungy in his wingplay approach - which was disappointing given when we saw him at the start of the season, he was much more exciting and direct. Perhaps they are being told its all about keeping a certain shape ?

Think chungy needs to move to develop his career, his more technical style is not suited to this level and neither is our more static statuesque approach.

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:23 pm

CYL has had another poor season but still has a reputation so we should be doing everything we can to cash in and get him off the wage bill. If we got 5 loans in on Ngog's wages what could we do with Chungy's? Once an excellent player for us but no more.
As for Ream BWFCI, like I said he has faults but he's done more good than harm this season defensively. If we're looking at defensive liabilities look no further than Baptiste. I say give the guy the credit he deserves. Yes he played a poor pass that Barnsley could have scored from, but they didn't. We can all pick on stuff like that. Once again he finished the game in a different position to the one he started in, we won and he generally played well.
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Re: Player of the Season

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:34 pm

LeverEnd wrote:CYL has had another poor season but still has a reputation so we should be doing everything we can to cash in and get him off the wage bill. If we got 5 loans in on Ngog's wages what could we do with Chungy's? Once an excellent player for us but no more.
As for Ream BWFCI, like I said he has faults but he's done more good than harm this season defensively. If we're looking at defensive liabilities look no further than Baptiste. I say give the guy the credit he deserves. Yes he played a poor pass that Barnsley could have scored from, but they didn't. We can all pick on stuff like that. Once again he finished the game in a different position to the one he started in, we won and he generally played well.
Isn't it exactly the same as Baptiste? Baptiste is decent going forwards but struggles to defend against a winger.

Ream is the similar, nice on the ball, but hopeless when trying to defend.

Baptiste played out of position for the entire game (whilst he was on) but that seems conveniently overlooked. Baptiste makes an error that doesn't in the end cost us. Ream did the same.

I agree that Ream has been better than he was last season, but that is not saying very much.

He's certainly not the worst player in the squad this season, far from it. But I think he's getting plaudits because he can pass a ball, yet his inability to defend and terrible general positional awareness are swept under the carpet too much for my liking. I like his versatility and he is more than useful as a squad player. I personally don't think that a side relying on Ream to play centre half week in week out, or left back even, will likely get promoted.

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:44 pm

Where did Baptiste play?

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by Athers » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:12 pm

I don't think any of our lot really deserve it, I've not had any adverts for the black tie end of year do through so presumably it's literally cancelled Richard
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Re: Player of the Season

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:28 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Where did Baptiste play?
Left back.

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:29 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Where did Baptiste play?
Left back.
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Re: Player of the Season

Post by Tombwfc » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:45 pm

There surely can't be an actual awards do for this? Was there last season?

We're about to finish 14th and the top three would be made up of loan players. Also, just about everybody has had a long period of being out of the side with only three players (Spearing, Ream and Baptiste) starting more than 30 games.

All things considered, it'd have to be the Juke.

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:55 pm

Tombwfc wrote:There surely can't be an actual awards do for this? Was there last season?

We're about to finish 14th and the top three would be made up of loan players. Also, just about everybody has had a long period of being out of the side with only three players (Spearing, Ream and Baptiste) starting more than 30 games.

All things considered, it'd have to be the Juke.
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Re: Player of the Season

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:31 am

Didn't our loanee, Spearing win it last year?

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:46 am

Worthy4England wrote:Didn't our loanee, Spearing win it last year?
He did indeed, but after playing a whole season and making about 40 appearances. Juke is by far our most impressive performer this season and I'd be happy to see him win it, but I'd always go for someone who has played most of a season. When it comes down to it, after such a poor season it's largely irrelevant and probably not worth talking about, let alone arguing over!
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Re: Player of the Season

Post by jaffka » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:06 am

LeverEnd wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:Didn't our loanee, Spearing win it last year?
He did indeed, but after playing a whole season and making about 40 appearances. Juke is by far our most impressive performer this season and I'd be happy to see him win it, but I'd always go for someone who has played most of a season. When it comes down to it, after such a poor season it's largely irrelevant and probably not worth talking about, let alone arguing over!
Exactly, which is why I have abstained so far.

Player of the season, in a season of underachieving, feck me, that's some accolade.

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Re: Player of the Season

Post by Hoboh » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:16 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:CYL has had another poor season but still has a reputation so we should be doing everything we can to cash in and get him off the wage bill. If we got 5 loans in on Ngog's wages what could we do with Chungy's? Once an excellent player for us but no more.
As for Ream BWFCI, like I said he has faults but he's done more good than harm this season defensively. If we're looking at defensive liabilities look no further than Baptiste. I say give the guy the credit he deserves. Yes he played a poor pass that Barnsley could have scored from, but they didn't. We can all pick on stuff like that. Once again he finished the game in a different position to the one he started in, we won and he generally played well.
Isn't it exactly the same as Baptiste? Baptiste is decent going forwards but struggles to defend against a winger.

Ream is the similar, nice on the ball, but hopeless when trying to defend.

Baptiste played out of position for the entire game (whilst he was on) but that seems conveniently overlooked. Baptiste makes an error that doesn't in the end cost us. Ream did the same.

I agree that Ream has been better than he was last season, but that is not saying very much.

He's certainly not the worst player in the squad this season, far from it. But I think he's getting plaudits because he can pass a ball, yet his inability to defend and terrible general positional awareness are swept under the carpet too much for my liking. I like his versatility and he is more than useful as a squad player. I personally don't think that a side relying on Ream to play centre half week in week out, or left back even, will likely get promoted.
Baptiste, Knight?

Accidents waiting to happen every game!

Ream?

A short spell at a Marine corps boot camp would work wonders.

No real standouts for player of the season, most have been shit at one stage or another, TBH it's been so shit if I was a player I'd be embarassed to accept it!

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