When is a Derby not a Derby? Home v The Rams Sept 2nd, 3-o'clock.

[Worthy4England]

It has been noted several times that we have 10pts from 5 games, which extrapolates to 92 pts – almost certainly automatic promotion pace.

10pts from 6 games extrapolates to 76pts, which last season didn't reach the playoffs.

The top three last season lost 7, 4 and 6. You don't want to be on 2 losses after 6 games. Obviously, 6 games in it's not "must win," but it'd be decently handy if we did.

The notion of a home game against a team likely in the mix at the end, can just fall by the wayside, is bizarre.

[BWFC_Insane]

It has been noted several times that we have 10pts from 5 games, which extrapolates to 92 pts – almost certainly automatic promotion pace.

10pts from 6 games extrapolates to 76pts, which last season didn't reach the playoffs.

The top three last season lost 7, 4 and 6. You don't want to be on 2 losses after 6 games. Obviously, 6 games in it's not "must win," but it'd be decently handy if we did.

The notion of a home game against a team likely in the mix at the end, can just fall by the wayside, is bizarre.

Out of interest if you have it, do we know how many they’d lost by Christmas?

[The_Gun]

Last year Plymouth started with 9 pts from 5 games, and lost 5-1 to Charlton in their fourth outing.

[Worthy4England]

It has been noted several times that we have 10pts from 5 games, which extrapolates to 92 pts – almost certainly automatic promotion pace.

10pts from 6 games extrapolates to 76pts, which last season didn't reach the playoffs.

The top three last season lost 7, 4 and 6. You don't want to be on 2 losses after 6 games. Obviously, 6 games in it's not "must win," but it'd be decently handy if we did.

The notion of a home game against a team likely in the mix at the end, can just fall by the wayside, is bizarre.

Out of interest if you have it, do we know how many they’d lost by Christmas?

Top three were all on 3 losses @ 25th Dec...

Plymouth were on 47 points from 22...

[BWFC_Insane]

It has been noted several times that we have 10pts from 5 games, which extrapolates to 92 pts – almost certainly automatic promotion pace.

10pts from 6 games extrapolates to 76pts, which last season didn't reach the playoffs.

The top three last season lost 7, 4 and 6. You don't want to be on 2 losses after 6 games. Obviously, 6 games in it's not "must win," but it'd be decently handy if we did.

The notion of a home game against a team likely in the mix at the end, can just fall by the wayside, is bizarre.

Out of interest if you have it, do we know how many they’d lost by Christmas?

Top three were all on 3 losses @ 25th Dec...

Plymouth were on 47 points from 22...

Thanks that is a reasonable target then. 2 ppg or better by Christmas.

[Prufrock]

It's the nature of big games right? Lose, we're off the pace, don't seem to have made bigs steps forward, everything is disaster.

Win, we're another two points up on last season, above 2ppg, 4 points clear of the only team the bookies fancied more.

Man in the arena, and all that.

[Worthy4England]

It's the nature of big games right? Lose, we're off the pace, don't seem to have made bigs steps forward, everything is disaster.

Win, we're another two points up on last season, above 2ppg, 4 points clear of the only team the bookies fancied more.

Man in the arena, and all that.

Yeah - it's the relativity too, obviously. If every other bugger is on 35 points from 22 at Christmas, then being on 36 looks pretty darned good. Parky took us up on 1.86 ppg on 86 points (I think from memory - well the 86 is from memory) - on 25th Dec we were on 43 from 22...so we must've slacked off in the second half

[Harry Genshaw]

Well yeah. I don’t like it when Evatt starts with the defensive noises. It shows he believes we are struggling. And PPG at this stage can vary wildly.

The stuff about win percentages too is also a bit ‘pointless’ as I mean he’s managed Bolton at the lowest level and only shares that accolade with Phil Neal.

His press interview today interested me. It seemed to support previous comments from Ghost and Lever End about his personality and thin skin towards any criticism. I don't know who these berks are that had such a go at him after Burton and they're certainly not representative of our fan bases attitude towards him as a whole, but it's obviously got to him.

[BWFC_Insane]

Well yeah. I don’t like it when Evatt starts with the defensive noises. It shows he believes we are struggling. And PPG at this stage can vary wildly.

The stuff about win percentages too is also a bit ‘pointless’ as I mean he’s managed Bolton at the lowest level and only shares that accolade with Phil Neal.

His press interview today interested me. It seemed to support previous comments from Ghost and Lever End about his personality and thin skin towards any criticism. I don't know who these berks are that had such a go at him after Burton and they're certainly not representative of our fan bases attitude towards him as a whole, but it's obviously got to him.

Honestly I think he’s a good manager. But my read is when he starts doing this (and he’s done it a few times) is when he feels the criticism might have some truth to it…and he reacts like this.

I think real nonsense he could just brush off. But I think this probably irks him cos he knows there are issues and maybe thought we had it cracked early doors.

[Bertie Wooster]

I agree that he's a decent manager, however he's not as good as 'he' thinks he is.

[BWFC_Insane]

I agree that he's a decent manager, however he's not as good as 'he' thinks he is.

He’s still very young and learning. If there was anything I would say it’s that I think he massively overestimates how much you can improve players. By the age of 22/23 nowadays they pretty much are what they are. Yes you can work with them on systems and tactical stuff but the gains are marginal.

I think there are players we have who won’t ever be able to add the parts that are missing. No matter how much you work with them.

[Bertie Wooster]

I agree that he's a decent manager, however he's not as good as 'he' thinks he is.

He’s still very young and learning. If there was anything I would say it’s that I think he massively overestimates how much you can improve players. By the age of 22/23 nowadays they pretty much are what they are. Yes you can work with them on systems and tactical stuff but the gains are marginal.

I think there are players we have who won’t ever be able to add the parts that are missing. No matter how much you work with them.

I think that a lot of fans would agree with this and I think this is why many don't think that we currently have a top 2 quality squad. Lets hope by this evening that we have !

[TANGODANCER]

Some startling news....Managers don't play football!

They advise, select, supervise and play chess with their teams. They can add, remove , players, shout at and occasionally kick a coffee cup or two around. What they never do during the course of a match, is kick or head a football. That small task is left to highly paid professional footballers.

If said footballers play well,and of course win games, managers can win a Manager of the Month trophy. The alternative is abuse, criticism and a howling mob of fans with bed-sheets and pitchforks calling for the sack...which will undoubtedly follow unless miracles happen. Players can be chastised, but a good game usually balances the equilibrium and they are usually soon forgiven. Managers, not so.

Who'd be a football manager..?

[TANGODANCER]

I had a dream about this one last night (honestly). We won 2-1 playing "Chaz-ball". Hope it comes true.. COME ON YOU WHITES....

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

2-2 with Dan scoring off the back of his head in the 99th minute.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

2-2 with Dan scoring off the back of his head in the 99th minute.

While trying to volley it?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

2-2 with Dan scoring off the back of his head in the 99th minute.

While trying to volley it?

Possibly, though I figured he was trying to find the exit at the time

[boltonboris]

I think we can agree on 1 thing. If we go behind, we could be in deep doodoo

[boltonboris]

<that's what she said>

[Worthy4England]

<that's what she said>

I'm rather hoping our forward line gets in behind, before theirs. F'narr...