DMB Match Thread

boltonboris · Post by **boltonboris** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:45 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Gets done for pace and by trickery far too often to be our best. Certainly no better than any of the rest of our back four. Pumps his fists, shouts and scowls a lot though, so kudos.

Who? Steinsson?

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:12 am

Hoboh wrote:I thought Elmander was good yesterday chasing, harrying, etc. Proberbly our best player but I agree with brucie as well, he should be sticking those chances away! He still looks more an attacking mid than a striker. Nani's goal wasn't the problem much as we gifted it them, it was the crocked dwarfs, that was pathetic I aint seen the tv highlights yet but it looked like he got in front of Robinson for a virtual free header.
BTW we are well up the league for putting the ball in the net, its still conceading thats the problem which suggests whatever our c/back pairing is we need to tighten up.

The Owen goal was irritating in the sense that its one of those slightly freak goals in that his header looped perfectly out of Jussi's reach. I know what you mean about him getting across the front but that is going to happen sometimes I guess, it was a clever run.

Unless we plug the hole in front of the back 4 by putting in an extra midfield player and it doesn't seem to be Owens way, I don't see how we'll tighten up. Defence are doing ok, but there are open spaces in front of them sometimes.

On the plus side we score more and do look capable of carrying on to do so.

I guess its the attacking football people craved and if we concede a few more thats just the downside to it.

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:50 am

boltonboris wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Gets done for pace and by trickery far too often to be our best. Certainly no better than any of the rest of our back four. Pumps his fists, shouts and scowls a lot though, so kudos.
Who? Steinsson?

Both of 'em.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:56 am

Neither fullback is perfect but they both are determined and fight for the cause. Neither are terrible though both at times cost us some goals.

However, for now both will do.

boltonboris · Post by **boltonboris** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:57 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:Neither fullback is perfect but they both are determined and fight for the cause. Neither are terrible though both at times cost us some goals.

However, for now both will do.

The one on the left is much better than the one on the right..

If Robbo could be cloned, I'd be delighted if he ousted Steiner

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:04 am

boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Neither fullback is perfect but they both are determined and fight for the cause. Neither are terrible though both at times cost us some goals.

However, for now both will do.
The one on the left is much better than the one on the right..

If Robbo could be cloned, I'd be delighted if he ousted Steiner

Whilst sort of agreeing that both will do. Robinson isn't very good at all - and hasn't been most of this season. He spends half the game pointing at other players telling them to pick up his man, the other half either getting beat by said man or going in the book for not being good enough.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:10 am

Worthy4England wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Neither fullback is perfect but they both are determined and fight for the cause. Neither are terrible though both at times cost us some goals.

However, for now both will do.
The one on the left is much better than the one on the right..

If Robbo could be cloned, I'd be delighted if he ousted Steiner
Whilst sort of agreeing that both will do. Robinson isn't very good at all - and hasn't been most of this season. He spends half the game pointing at other players telling them to pick up his man, the other half either getting beat by said man or going in the book for not being good enough.

Can't agree W4E with that at all. I think he's pretty solid. He gets isolated a lot with Petrov. When Petrov started tracking back in the second half Robinson dealt a lot more easily with Nani.

I think Robinson is pretty solid, he doesn't have fantastic pace and occassionally gets done for that and also sometimes his height causes the odd issue. But I think he's tough and uncompromising and works very hard. Sort of player I think who keeps going and keeps battling.

We need characters like him in the team as we haven't got very many truly aggressive players.

RobbieSavagesLeg · Post by **RobbieSavagesLeg** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:20 am

Yea Robinson is definitely better than our previous, but his attempt at a header for Owens goal was laughable. Heading is not his A-Game.

seanworth · Post by **seanworth** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:32 am

RobbieSavagesLeg wrote:Yea Robinson is definitely better than our previous, but his attempt at a header for Owens goal was laughable. Heading is not his A-Game.

No but it seems to be Owens A-game against our side. I believe his last two goals against us have been headers. Oh the shame.

Il Pirate · Post by **Il Pirate** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:37 am

Worthy4England wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Neither fullback is perfect but they both are determined and fight for the cause. Neither are terrible though both at times cost us some goals.

However, for now both will do.
The one on the left is much better than the one on the right..

If Robbo could be cloned, I'd be delighted if he ousted Steiner
Whilst sort of agreeing that both will do. Robinson isn't very good at all - and hasn't been most of this season. He spends half the game pointing at other players telling them to pick up his man, the other half either getting beat by said man or going in the book for not being good enough.

It was Robbo at Wet Spam who Twa**ed their right winger and effecively stopped the spammers launching wave after wave of attack. Once Robbo had tackled him in his 'good hard challenge' type of way, the winger didn't want to know and wet spam's attacking play fizzled out like a firework on a wet bonfire night. It was only then we began to get hold of the ball and start playing ourselves, and look what it led to. Up 'till then we were getting slaughtered.

marshall_42 · Post by **marshall_42** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:38 am

just an unrelated comment....

the Rags in the pub I was watching in didnt understand why it was a 12o'clock kick off until I explained that Bolton was actually rather close to Manchester, ergo a local derby, which most of them seemed unaware of. The reply was 'well do they expect all the Utd fans to have to travel the day before to get to the match?'.

Now I know I am far from a Bolton local, but that sums up the Ud fanbase in a nutshell

ohjimmyjimmy · Post by **ohjimmyjimmy** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:11 am

Very proud after the game, i love the effort and unity being shown.

Found myself grinning like a fool whilst watching the highlights on MOTD 2 too...mind you, i had sunk a few by then, soooo...

Two points from the last 2 games, when i expected 0, and slight disappointment at not having 4 or dare i say it even 6 !

This new-found optimism is worrying. However we do appear to be drawing games we would previously be losing, which although is making us look slightly like 'draw specialists' at this early stage, the loss column only shows 1 so far , and thats a good habit to be in. Its also a sign of progress.

Armchair Wanderer · Post by **Armchair Wanderer** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:43 am

This is the optimism still from over the summer with a touch of reality thrown in. Happiest I've been about football for years. And generally the PL is more open than usual, which is good news for everyone!

Thought the ref had a good game.

Just been flicking through the game thread on red cafe, priceless!

RobbieSavagesLeg · Post by **RobbieSavagesLeg** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:54 am

Armchair Wanderer wrote:This is the optimism still from over the summer with a touch of reality thrown in. Happiest I've been about football for years. And generally the PL is more open than usual, which is good news for everyone!

Thought the ref had a good game.

Just been flicking through the game thread on red cafe, priceless!

haha, had a quick look, they're suicidal...

Brilliant.

bedwetter2 · Post by **bedwetter2** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:09 am

Happiest I have been for 3 years or more and I'm now actually looking forward to attending for the Stoke game - which is a bit weird.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:26 am

bedwetter2 wrote:Happiest I have been for 3 years or more and I'm now actually looking forward to attending for the Stoke game - which is a bit weird.

It bloody is if you recall the home match last season !!

The highlights of the first half were the whistle to kick off & the whistle to end it !

The most turgid 45m I've ever spent watching football & there've been a few !!

jaffka · Post by **jaffka** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:15 pm

How much did Petrov enjoy that goal. Fantastic.

We could/should have won, but given that we have f*ck all against them recentley to get a point is great.

Blue nose was unhappy at the end, had is back turned to OC and looked really unhappy to have to shake hands.

Next week will be a toughie, they will be confident after beating arse, but that is for another topic...

seanworth · Post by **seanworth** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:19 pm

jaffka wrote:How much did Petrov enjoy that goal. Fantastic.

We could/should have won, but given that we have f*ck all against them recentley to get a point is great.

Blue nose was unhappy at the end, had is back turned to OC and looked really unhappy to have to shake hands.

Next week will be a toughie, they will be confident after beating arse, but that is for another topic...

Aye but his giving his own team credit for having the character to come back against us, was probably the best compliment we could receive. He might not want to admit it but he respected the way we played.

boltonboris · Post by **boltonboris** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:21 pm

Well for once Ferguson couldn't blame roughing up tactics, bad tackles and poor refereeing for an excuse.. He just looked simply disgusted that his players were outfought and quite often outthought and outplayed by us.. And why wouldn't he?

As petty as he looked at the final whistle, he was more than gracious in his assessment of events in his interviews.

Came out with more credit than Wenger, Benitez, Bruce, Hughes etc.. Ever could have

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:41 pm

In retrospect: Having seen the Elmander missed opportunity replay several times it does focus on there never having been a better chance to beat United. He really did play well and his setting up for it was superb; unfortunately, the finish was awful. I can't think of one of our forward players who wouldn't have put that one away. Klasnic would have killed it, I'd have backed KD, Lee or Petrove to slot it home rather than try to blast it from six yards. It only needed a prod. This isn't a moan, Elmander is playing out of his skin, but what might have been with just a bit of composure. 3-1 up and it could have been all over. No doubt OC will show him the replays and he'll learn. This one could well be the seasons "One that got away" being kind, or miss of the season otherwise. Fantastic result, but can't help feeling a bit cheated this morning.

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