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Re: Don't Terrier self up about it - Huddersfield Thread

Post by thebish » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:24 am

jaffka wrote:
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thebish wrote:i wouldn't have congratulated beckford for being fecking close - i don't see why we should big-up uddersfield for going close!
Is it bigging them up or just trying to fairly reflect on the game :conf:
I dunno! Chris C (who was at the game) says that neither side deserved a win... Smokin Joe says that Huddersfield deserved to win 3-0..... yer pays yer money!
ChrisC also said it was dross...

There are a few other opinions on offer as well, feel free to try but I haven't seen much, if anything to take heart from :?
I didn't say I'd taken heart - in fact I actually said it made it much more difficult for me to stay positive :-( I didn't say it wasn't dross! anyway - thanks - cheered me up no end!! :? :wink:

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Re: Don't Terrier self up about it - Huddersfield Thread

Post by jaffka » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:08 pm

thebish wrote:
jaffka wrote:
thebish wrote:
jaffka wrote:
thebish wrote:i wouldn't have congratulated beckford for being fecking close - i don't see why we should big-up uddersfield for going close!
Is it bigging them up or just trying to fairly reflect on the game :conf:
I dunno! Chris C (who was at the game) says that neither side deserved a win... Smokin Joe says that Huddersfield deserved to win 3-0..... yer pays yer money!
ChrisC also said it was dross...

There are a few other opinions on offer as well, feel free to try but I haven't seen much, if anything to take heart from :?
I didn't say I'd taken heart - in fact I actually said it made it much more difficult for me to stay positive :-( I didn't say it wasn't dross! anyway - thanks - cheered me up no end!! :? :wink:
It will all be different on Saturday after we thump Donny Rovers. :D

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Post by LeverEnd » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:10 pm

Last night's scores from the BN, David Pye is clearly a generous man.

Wanderers: Lonergan 7, McNaughton 7, Knight 7, Mills 8, Ream 8; Moritz 8 (Ngog 59, 5), Kamara 6 (Mason 75, 6), Spearing 6, Hall 7 (Chung-Yong 56, 6); Danns 7, Beckford 6. Subs not used: Baptiste, Wheater, Pratley, Lee-Barratt.

Unless he's talking about the fans, who apparently were 'whining'.
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Post by boltonboris » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:26 pm

I can't read that.. 3 Christmas 'puns' in the first 2 paragraphs..

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Post by Bijou Bob » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:32 pm

Couldn't drag myself into the cold and drive the 70 mile round trip last night and glad i didn't. What is becoming clear is that we have no plan b and that Plan A is consistently not working. DF seems to want to control matches in the first half and keep things tight. This has reduced the number we are conceding, but 451 at home is proving again and again to be an appalling mistake. The depressing thing is, I can't see him changing the way we play and lack of ambition will see us with a mid table finish.

With crowds of 15000 or less and the budget we have, perhaps this is the new reality we have to face.
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Post by LeverEnd » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:29 pm

I don't see why it needs to be the reality. The crowd was significantly less than 15000 by the end and those early leavers will just stop coming.
Bring someone in who isn't depressingly negative, have a go and I'll not mind as much if we don't win.
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Post by a1 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:09 pm

LeverEnd wrote:I don't see why it needs to be the reality. The crowd was significantly less than 15000 by the end and those early leavers will just stop coming.
Bring someone in who isn't depressingly negative, have a go and I'll not mind as much if we don't win.
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:13 pm

Things is a1. Coyle's football was turgid too. Only difference is Coyle got a reputation for playing Barca football on the back of about 4 games when Mavies and Holden were fit and Elmander remembered he was a half decent footballer.

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Post by norm the jedi » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:03 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:
With crowds of 15000 or less and the budget we have, perhaps this is the new reality we have to face.
This.... is who we are for the forseeable..
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Post by LeverEnd » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:47 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Things is a1. Coyle's football was turgid too. Only difference is Coyle got a reputation for playing Barca football on the back of about 4 games when Mavies and Holden were fit and Elmander remembered he was a half decent footballer.
Exactly AT, the myth of Coyle's passing game. I'm not talking about employing some gung-ho bellend, I'm talking about someone who isn't totally fecking dull and who doesn't treat Huddersfield and Millwall like AC Milan and Barcelona in terms of playing scared.

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Post by Enoch » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:03 pm

I knew this was a poorly constructed topic, said it straight off.

How can a team be expected to perform when burdened with such a lame thread title!

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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:10 pm

norm the jedi wrote:
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With crowds of 15000 or less and the budget we have, perhaps this is the new reality we have to face.
This.... is who we are for the forseeable..
Not sure I agree entirely Norm. There are teams with less spending power than us, putting up a better fight of it this season. So I'm not sure it has to be this way.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:00 pm

Its a good job he's doing such sterling work behind the scenes, because on the surface it looks like he's a clueless chancer who's winging it at football management. Absolutely dreadful, disorganised mess last night.

And fair play to those who can see a clear masterplan. They're clearly much smarter than me, because, to me, we looked slow, uncoached, disinterested, second best. And we're back to 19th.
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Post by thebish » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:03 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Its a good job he's doing such sterling work behind the scenes, because on the surface it looks like he's a clueless chancer who's winging it at football management. Absolutely dreadful, disorganised mess last night.

And fair play to those who can see a clear masterplan. They're clearly much smarter than me, because, to me, we looked slow, uncoached, disinterested, second best. And we're back to 19th.

at last some sense! 8)

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Post by Prufrock » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:32 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
norm the jedi wrote:
Bijou Bob wrote:
With crowds of 15000 or less and the budget we have, perhaps this is the new reality we have to face.
This.... is who we are for the forseeable..
Not sure I agree entirely Norm. There are teams with less spending power than us, putting up a better fight of it this season. So I'm not sure it has to be this way.

Indeed, it's like folk think there is some sort of unshakeable destiny going on. Presumably, our best bet would be to get relegated again, and then go up twice in a row. A year behind Wolves.
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Post by 89bwfc89 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:44 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Its a good job he's doing such sterling work behind the scenes, because on the surface it looks like he's a clueless chancer who's winging it at football management. Absolutely dreadful, disorganised mess last night.

And fair play to those who can see a clear masterplan. They're clearly much smarter than me, because, to me, we looked slow, uncoached, disinterested, second best. And we're back to 19th.
Has anyone said they can since last night?

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Post by norm the jedi » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:15 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
norm the jedi wrote:
Bijou Bob wrote:
With crowds of 15000 or less and the budget we have, perhaps this is the new reality we have to face.
This.... is who we are for the forseeable..
Not sure I agree entirely Norm. There are teams with less spending power than us, putting up a better fight of it this season. So I'm not sure it has to be this way.

Indeed, it's like folk think there is some sort of unshakeable destiny going on. Presumably, our best bet would be to get relegated again, and then go up twice in a row. A year behind Wolves.
Not destiny as such just the circle of life really, the history of this club would suggest a down period whether that bottoms out here or a division below or a division below that who knows ?for now we're a mediocre team in a mediocre league where about 10 points covers the spread of about 16 teams? And anyone can beat anyone else without apparent rhyme or reason week in week out. I don't think we'll go up, or down... And having looked at football with passion, dispassion and now increasing cynicism I can't understand why on the basis of performance over an ever increasing period anyone imagines we could even be in sniffing range of getting back to the heights of Hiero, Campo, jay jay, et al god I'd take Henrik Pedestrian now at 43 or whatever age he is... Premier league is a foreign country and our passport ran out....
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Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:34 pm

One final point. Zat Knight was our best player by a country mile, both front and back. Mostly because, whatever is supposed to have happened, we're still lumping it long to the front man, bypassing our (utterly decrepit) midfield entirely.
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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:40 pm

I guess the point I'm making Norm, is that the year we got relegated (and Coyle was right in that there are some fine margins), we were a long way from being the 18th on the wage bill ladder in the Prem. Maybe a long way from Hierro, Campo, Jay Jay etc. but compared to other clubs the season we went down, we had plenty, 14th highest wage bill in the Prem.

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Last season, I suspect we were still in the top 4/5 in the Championship, if not higher. This season I suspect we're probably not far off that - maybe a couple of places down.

Which ever way you look at it, both Coyle and Freedman were/are underperforming against the amount of wage bill at their disposal. Yes it takes a while to filter out high paid players you're not going to use - especially if they're on long term Contracts that they'd rather run down than lose, but we've signed quite a lot of players under Freedman including loanees, and current performance isn't reflecting the investment he's getting

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Post by Bijou Bob » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:46 pm

Mark Robbins in!!!!
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