Next Up - Freeman's Replacement

[TKIZ!]

Mixu would be a risk but I would like to see him given a shot

I'm not at all sure that going back to a former club man is what we need now... I know Mixu was a long time ago - but on the same basis - I don't think now is the time for Browny or McGinlay or Campo or SKD (what a feck-up that would be!!!)

I think we need someone who has no priors with the club - who can look at it dispassionately and honestly...

[Worthy4England]

We'll agree to disagree on this then and move on. My one concern is that I'd feel like a bit of a liberal lefty hypocrite supporting a BWFC/Mackay managed team. I still would be it wouldn't 'sit' well

I'm not sure what we're agreeing to disagree on. I said I have no notion whether MacKay is any of the things he's been labeled as (because I've never met him) . So he might well be the thing's he's labeled as, in which case I wouldn't want him, he might not be, in which case I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. I've no notion how I would test this other than being his mate for a number of years.

Either way, I don't think he'd sit will with a lot of people, and I suspect he's carrying too much baggage for Gartside's liking, so I think it'll all resolve itself without anyone feeling compromised.

[bobo the clown]

We need steady, proven, capable. Someone with no baggage. A good man manager and coach with decent PR skills and good communication. No risks. No stepping stones. No 10 game wonders.

[Worthy4England]

We need steady, proven, capable. Someone with no baggage. A good man manager and coach with decent PR skills and good communication. No risks. No stepping stones. No 10 game wonders.

Is there anyone available who fits all those categories?

[thebish]

We need steady, proven, capable. Someone with no baggage. A good man manager and coach with decent PR skills and good communication. No risks. No stepping stones. No 10 game wonders.

Is there anyone available who fits all those categories?

as fans - we'd only commit ourselves to judgement after the fact and with hindsight fully engaged!

employing any manager is a risk to some degree... there are no solid facts or certainties, only probabilities.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

We need someone that can get our bunch of footballers (I use the term loosely!) playing football to something approaching their potential. This someone needs to do it with little squad change or money. Anything more is surely a bonus at this junction, though if they're not a wanker that'd be good too

[a1]

A1 is claiming that it is predictable that WtW's choice of manager is someone who A1 alleges (without corroboration) to be a black communist - WtW often being found on what might be described as the "left" of any political discussion rather than the right...

he goes on to allude to the Mackay texting controversy by imagining a situation where Hughton (somehow) texts a version of the old board-game "Landlord's Game" (the precurser to Monopoly which was devised to show how landlords impoverish tenants) - only hughton has doctored the squares with stalinist propoganda to make it even more explicit - and is then found out in the same way that Mackay was and (presumably) hounded in the press - A1 (it seems) thinks that Mackay's hounding was unfair/exaggerated/unwarranted - this is (presumably) what he is reacting to.

A1 then congratulates himself on being doubly topical.

happy to help!

yeah. its like folk cant use google .

I think Mckay got caught being a dick and it seems the Vicent Tan bashing was somewhat exaggerated (i'd say xenophobic , but its not that, probably nepotistic ). My own opinion is that Mckay is not good and likes spending money (too Colin Todd- -like 'spends too much money , go down anyway' type scenario , for me).

the 'doubly topical' thing was that when i 'reversed' the racist "black monopoly" thing , to suit my allegation of chris houghton being a communist -[he used to write the football bits in the morning star or something, i heard him say something along these lines himself, in a tv interview when he was newcastle's manager.. he denied being "a red" though, claiming he was just doing a favour for a friend, i have no proof either way]- that the anti stalinists had a "white army" , and that's a bwfc nickname.

its all fairly recent popular culture type stuff. (the bolshevik stuff might not be current or owt , i'm no history scholar , but again Stalin 'should' be a name people know) but it was just a joke based on current or popular events and names, some of which are only weeks old.

i'd make the joke "me fail english ? that's unpossible" but most people on here probably think "the simpsons" is a period drama about King Edward the Eighth , that they havent seen . or something.

i'm kidding.. a bit.

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anyway , Whats with all the Scott Green rumours ? they'll be 'megson outing' with torches outside gartside's house if they appoint that "bolton legend".

i dont even know if even i'd find that schadenfreude-y.. "king troll" might have to be phil's new nickname.

unless its smoke and mirrors for Pep's next challenge.

:/

[Worthy4England]

We need steady, proven, capable. Someone with no baggage. A good man manager and coach with decent PR skills and good communication. No risks. No stepping stones. No 10 game wonders.

Is there anyone available who fits all those categories?

as fans - we'd only commit ourselves to judgement after the fact and with hindsight fully engaged!

employing any manager is a risk to some degree... there are no solid facts or certainties, only probabilities.

Whew.

[thebish]

We need steady, proven, capable. Someone with no baggage. A good man manager and coach with decent PR skills and good communication. No risks. No stepping stones. No 10 game wonders.

Is there anyone available who fits all those categories?

as fans - we'd only commit ourselves to judgement after the fact and with hindsight fully engaged!

employing any manager is a risk to some degree... there are no solid facts or certainties, only probabilities.

Whew.

it's just that bobo seems to have quite a long list of requirements there! (PR skills?? - those wouldn't be high on my lost - maybe desirable - but not crucial! As for "no baggage" - who amongst us has no baggage!)

[a1]

what happened to that sabella dude ?

i'll have to think up some falklands references.

[jaffka]

this is a very tolerant site

much like the boardroom, very tolerant of dross management

[Worthy4England]

Think they'll need HR skills too - we need to get rid of a few.

[Prufrock]

We'll agree to disagree on this then and move on. My one concern is that I'd feel like a bit of a liberal lefty hypocrite supporting a BWFC/Mackay managed team. I still would be it wouldn't 'sit' well

I'm not sure what we're agreeing to disagree on. I said I have no notion whether MacKay is any of the things he's been labeled as (because I've never met him) . So he might well be the thing's he's labeled as, in which case I wouldn't want him, he might not be, in which case I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. I've no notion how I would test this other than being his mate for a number of years.

Either way, I don't think he'd sit will with a lot of people, and I suspect he's carrying too much baggage for Gartside's liking, so I think it'll all resolve itself without anyone feeling compromised.

So best case scenario is he's the sort of prick who thinks that was all 'funny'? That's best case!

No ta for me. Would be funny to see him try to explain to Chungy that it was all just a bit of harmless banter though.

[a1]

what happened to that sabella dude ?

he's not doing nowt.

sign him up

might be too leeds-y for some on here, but he were crap there anyway.

sign him up

[Worthy4England]

We'll agree to disagree on this then and move on. My one concern is that I'd feel like a bit of a liberal lefty hypocrite supporting a BWFC/Mackay managed team. I still would be it wouldn't 'sit' well

I'm not sure what we're agreeing to disagree on. I said I have no notion whether MacKay is any of the things he's been labeled as (because I've never met him) . So he might well be the thing's he's labeled as, in which case I wouldn't want him, he might not be, in which case I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. I've no notion how I would test this other than being his mate for a number of years.

Either way, I don't think he'd sit will with a lot of people, and I suspect he's carrying too much baggage for Gartside's liking, so I think it'll all resolve itself without anyone feeling compromised.

So best case scenario is he's the sort of prick who thinks that was all 'funny'? That's best case!

No ta for me. Would be funny to see him try to explain to Chungy that it was all just a bit of harmless banter though.

The player it was said about, played for him. Why would he need to explain to Chungy? I'm sure the player it was said about could make a case for racial discrimination, if he thought/thinks it applies...

[a1]

No ta for me. Would be funny to see him try to explain to Chungy that it was all just a bit of harmless banter though.

he'd get shaquille o'neal to do it for him !

or gene simmons (the guy from KISS , not the actress jean simmons)

[IggyTheDawgster]

Mike Phelan?

Has apparently applied for the job.

[jaffka]

Very knowledgable and lives reasonably local.

Nice chap as well.

[Nicko58]

Very knowledgable and lives reasonably local.

Nice chap as well.

How much of his knowledge is relevant to the level we are at?

What we need now is someone who's been there and done it as a manager IMO.

[jaffka]

Very knowledgable and lives reasonably local.

Nice chap as well.

How much of his knowledge is relevant to the level we are at?

What we need now is someone who's been there and done it as a manager IMO.

Who would you like then?

I cannot see us being able to get a top been there and done it manager.

I don't understand your point about knowledge, he has been involved in football for quite a long time and done very well out of it. So clearly he has knowledge of football.

If you had said I don't want someone who has never been a manager, I could understand but you didn't.

I'm glad we have apparent interest, as I think this might be quite a disappointing process.