No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:48 pm

thebish wrote:i think it is possible to call for an injection of quality and NOT demotivate everyone else - at least, it should be possible for a good (man)manager...
It is. But a manager has to be careful, as his quotes get airlifted from context to headline. Freedman chose the wrong time for an honest joke when he was leadingly asked if his players were good enough.

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:50 pm

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CrazyHorse wrote:I think you'll find it is Freedman's fault.
And Plymouth. He's responsible for signings at the moment.
mmmm. Has anyone ever seen Plymouth & Freedman in the same room ?
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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:57 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:I think you'll find it is Freedman's fault.
And Plymouth. He's responsible for signings at the moment.
mmmm. Has anyone ever seen Plymouth & Freedman in the same room ?
I just shuddered at the thought...some going in 40 degrees heat and 90% humidity :|

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:16 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
thebish wrote:i think it is possible to call for an injection of quality and NOT demotivate everyone else - at least, it should be possible for a good (man)manager...
It is. But a manager has to be careful, as his quotes get airlifted from context to headline. Freedman chose the wrong time for an honest joke when he was leadingly asked if his players were good enough.
that's true enough...

I was really just thinking of that reported recent quote where lennon says summat like "we need a striker right now... etc." I think that's fair enough - and if it demotivates our current strikers - then would we really notice the difference?? :wink:

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by Jugs » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:20 pm

But shouldn't saying we need a new striker motivate our current strikers to do better and prove to the gaffer that they've got what it takes?

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by jaffka » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:27 pm

Jugs wrote:But shouldn't saying we need a new striker motivate our current strikers to do better and prove to the gaffer that they've got what it takes?
Yes it should but not to those with an axe to grind.

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:37 pm

Jugs wrote:But shouldn't saying we need a new striker motivate our current strikers to do better and prove to the gaffer that they've got what it takes?

like I said - I think what he said is fair enough! :conf:

if Madine isn't motivated now - then it's time to move on if we can and bugger upsetting him!

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:54 pm

thebish wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:I think you'll find it is Freedman's fault.
oh.. OK - fair enough! :D
I still have Coyle's name in the frame...

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:57 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
thebish wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:I think you'll find it is Freedman's fault.
oh.. OK - fair enough! :D
I still have Coyle's name in the frame...
I'll let you and crazy argue that one out! :D

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:08 pm

thebish wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
thebish wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:I think you'll find it is Freedman's fault.
oh.. OK - fair enough! :D
I still have Coyle's name in the frame...
I'll let you and crazy argue that one out! :D
I've got Coyle, Freedman, and that ginger cxnt all in the frame. Bring back Big Sam, all is forgiven...
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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by boltonboris » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:32 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
boltonboris wrote:It's not because he's running out of cash. He gets wealthier by the week regardless.

Look, I get that it's his money and he can do whatever the feck he wants with it, but it's just making me think the we he's dried it up is cuntish behaviour
How on earth do you know that he gets wealthier? If you are privy to Eddie Davies assets then fine, but I hope you aren't referring to interest on his investments which is and hasn't been paid for a considerable time. How much readily available cash do you think he has?
I'm not referring to any interest payments of owt he obviously gets feck all out of us

But he's very good at making people like you believe he's not as wealthy as he is
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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by YtarmyYtarmy » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:55 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
thebish wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:I think you'll find it is Freedman's fault.
oh.. OK - fair enough! :D
I still have Coyle's name in the frame...
I'll let you and crazy argue that one out! :D
I've got Coyle, Freedman, and that ginger cxnt all in the frame. Bring back Big Sam, all is forgiven...
You obviously missed out that little shit that started the rot, Sammy Lee, Christ he has a lot to answer for, we should've seem the writing on the wall then, cheap, penny pinching appointment, i mean Daniel Braaten FFS :doh:

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:56 pm

My only qualm with ED is that he played poker and lost his nerve at exactly the wrong moment. Premier incomes (via TV deals) have boomed twice since he folded.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:05 pm

bobo the clown wrote:My only qualm with ED is that he played poker and lost his nerve at exactly the wrong moment. Premier incomes (via TV deals) have boomed twice since he folded.
I suspect it might not be entirely in his power.

In terms of signings I didn't expect Lennon to be able to directly replace the quality of Le Fondre.

But I didn't expect us to have worse options than Craig Davies. Which is what we've ended up with. And Craig Davies was on 5 grand a week. And none of the three Lennon has signed are offering what he could. And yes he got a couple of injuries last season. But his career hasn't been blighted that much. Perhaps last season was his body wearing down. Fine but still to not have found anyone as good is not great given he was bargain basement when signed himself.

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:45 pm

bobo the clown wrote:My only qualm with ED is that he played poker and lost his nerve at exactly the wrong moment. Premier incomes (via TV deals) have boomed twice since he folded.
Not sure that's true. The rise that occurred the year we went down, was known about, I think, prior to us getting relegated. I'm fairly sure if he had money to dump in and he thought there was any chance of getting a return on it, he's probably savvy enough to spot that. As it happens, there's been significant rises previously for all the good they fid the balance sheet.

@Boris - don't think anyone is suggesting he'll be drawing JSA anytime soon. In the 80's had you told me Bolton would play in Europe in my lifetime, I'd have thought you completely hatstand.

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by twilight » Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:51 pm

It's good having memories of what we did in the past, but I'm sure if you talked to a lot of other club's fans, they will have good memories of their club in the past....but we can't live in the past, we have to think of the club and their plight as of this moment in time and it's not looking good from where I see it....And we might only have memories and no future if this carries on

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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by Il Pirate » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:14 pm

bobo the clown wrote:My only qualm with ED is that he played poker and lost his nerve at exactly the wrong moment. Premier incomes (via TV deals) have boomed twice since he folded.

Fair comment bobo. But ED ( and his wife), have so many other interests. I spent a nice day the other week looking at some of his rare Japanese porcelain collection at the Roman Museum, Brading. On loan from the V&A, it's a tiny part of ED's art collection.
I'm sure a lot of his philanthropy affords tax breaks etc. But when it comes to pouring more money into the endless money pit which is BWFC, I for one can't blame him for saying enough is enough. F4ck a striker, I'm going to buy myself a Giacometti instead.

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Post by wigan white » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:30 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:My only qualm with ED is that he played poker and lost his nerve at exactly the wrong moment. Premier incomes (via TV deals) have boomed twice since he folded.
I suspect it might not be entirely in his power.

In terms of signings I didn't expect Lennon to be able to directly replace the quality of Le Fondre.

But I didn't expect us to have worse options than Craig Davies. Which is what we've ended up with. And Craig Davies was on 5 grand a week. And none of the three Lennon has signed are offering what he could. And yes he got a couple of injuries last season. But his career hasn't been blighted that much. Perhaps last season was his body wearing down. Fine but still to not have found anyone as good is not great given he was bargain basement when signed himself.
Errr...I think you'll find that Craig Davies has done his hamstring again and is out for at least a few weeks
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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:31 pm

^^ agreed Bluebeard bit I just think he panicked a tiny bit early.

& Worthy, understood and it was Alan Sugar who said every TV money hike simply meant even more money in players possible keys and even bigger debts. I think he may have been right.but ....& we'll never know ....I do feel another year would have helped greatly.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Re: No Nonsense... 'Uddersfield (A) 19/Sep/15

Post by Il Pirate » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:36 pm

bobo the clown wrote:^^ agreed Bluebeard bit I just think he panicked a tiny bit early.

& Worthy, understood and it was Alan Sugar who said every TV money hike simply meant even more money in players possible keys and even bigger debts. I think he may have been right.but ....& we'll never know ....I do feel another year would have helped greatly.

Maybe.................but Coyle would have been at the helm. :spank:

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