BW Supporters Trust

[CrazyHorse]

in this world,,, there are people who get of their arses and do something to make a change, make a positive contribution by their efforts,,,,,,,,
and then there's those who never do anything but the bare minimum, who snipe from the sidelines, criticise, ridicule the efforts of others but ultimately never achieve much themselves in life.

Am disgusted but not surprised by the attitude of some of the regular posters on this board regarding the new supporters trust


look at the situation the wanderers are in......... !!!!!
surely a bit of people power has to be a great thing...
so what if they havent decided what their ulimate objective is ???
or if they have decided, and their objective is to own the club, or just have fan representation on the board... who knows
but whatever it is,,,,,,,, at least they are doing something constructive

which is a vast improvement on some of the recent posts on here

You're disgusted because not everyone shares your point of view on this? Grow up.

[nelson66]

Steering group is being formed to set up the structure of the supporters trust

once its legal framework is set up then no doubt there will be elections,,,,,,,,,,, one man one vote etc.....

steering groups are usually comprised of anyone who has an interest and relevant skills.....
thats why over 250 people have put their names forwards to help so far

the current trust initiators can quite easily be moved on if the steering committee see fit..... including mr peacock

cynicism abounds on here

[nelson66]

and mocking someones grammar is a cnuts trick

[Harry Genshaw]

We're disappointed with the last few posts

[bobo the clown]

in this world,,, there are people who get of their arses and do something to make a change, make a positive contribution by their efforts,,,,,,,,
and then there's those who never do anything but the bare minimum, who snipe from the sidelines, criticise, ridicule the efforts of others but ultimately never achieve much themselves in life.

Am disgusted but not surprised by the attitude of some of the regular posters on this board regarding the new supporters trust


look at the situation the wanderers are in......... !!!!!
surely a bit of people power has to be a great thing...
so what if they havent decided what their ulimate objective is ???
or if they have decided, and their objective is to own the club, or just have fan representation on the board... who knows
but whatever it is,,,,,,,, at least they are doing something constructive

which is a vast improvement on some of the recent posts on here

You're disgusted because not everyone shares your point of view on this? Grow up.

He's MAKING A DIFFERENCE !! Didn't you realise ??


It apparently doesn't matter if they are mostly clueless wankers who have no proper vision of what they want because "people power" will sort it all out. Here was me forgetting how well that's gone in other clubs. When did we start thinking a bizarre socialist nirvana was all that we needed ?

Oh & once these wonderful people have done all the groundwork they can be moved on by democratic vote. So gratitude abounds then ... "the current trust initiators can quite easily be moved on if the steering committee see fit".

[Lost Leopard Spot]

and mocking someones grammar is a cnuts trick

Que? Who's mocked your grammar?

[Burnden Paddock]

and mocking someones grammar is a cnuts trick

What about punctuation. Or lack of?

[BWFC_Insane]

in this world,,, there are people who get of their arses and do something to make a change, make a positive contribution by their efforts,,,,,,,,
and then there's those who never do anything but the bare minimum, who snipe from the sidelines, criticise, ridicule the efforts of others but ultimately never achieve much themselves in life.

Am disgusted but not surprised by the attitude of some of the regular posters on this board regarding the new supporters trust


look at the situation the wanderers are in......... !!!!!
surely a bit of people power has to be a great thing...
so what if they havent decided what their ulimate objective is ???
or if they have decided, and their objective is to own the club, or just have fan representation on the board... who knows
but whatever it is,,,,,,,, at least they are doing something constructive

which is a vast improvement on some of the recent posts on here

You're disgusted because not everyone shares your point of view on this? Grow up.

He's MAKING A DIFFERENCE !! Didn't you realise ??


It apparently doesn't matter if they are mostly clueless wankers who have no proper vision of what they want because "people power" will sort it all out. Here was me forgetting how well that's gone in other clubs. When did we start thinking a bizarre socialist nirvana was all that we needed ?

Oh & once these wonderful people have done all the groundwork they can be moved on by democratic vote. So gratitude abounds then ... "the current trust initiators can quite easily be moved on if the steering committee see fit".

But these are people who have given up their time to try and do something positive. There was nothing stopping you doing it. They have.

I'm not sure it can be a bad thing, a voice for supporters in an official way has to be good. And whilst we may not like everyone who ends up being involved there is nothing to stop us from doing so and trying to ensure what we perceive as the right people are involved.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And you still haven't answered the question I asked.
I shall break it down into bits:
Who is deciding who'll be on the Steering Group?
Or, is everyone who has expressed an interest, all 250+ of them, going to be the Steering Group?
(Hopefully that'll be cxnt-trick free enough for somebody to answer it).

[bobo the clown]

and mocking someones grammar is a cnuts trick

Never start a sentence with an "and" by the way. Plus an apostrophe in cnuts [sic] .... to make it possessive. Otherwise it infers a plural, so the "a" prior to it wouldn't be right.


Anyway, so long as we'll be in good hands once "the people" take over !!

[nelson66]

And you still haven't answered the question I asked.
I shall break it down into bits:
Who is deciding who'll be on the Steering Group?
Or, is everyone who has expressed an interest, all 250+ of them, going to be the Steering Group?
(Hopefully that'll be cxnt-trick free enough for somebody to answer it).

thats quite an easy one
i have been involved in setting up a number of groups and charities
in order to set up any grouping/company/charity etc you need to have a number of people with an idea and or share a common cause

they can then ask others to join them in setting up a working group/steering group to further develop their ideas

the steering group is usually comprised of people with relevant skills and an interest in the original idea/cause

the current supporters trust initiators (the ones with the original proposal) have asked wanderers fans if they would like to be part of this steering group,,,, as they have particular interest in attracting people with relevant skills eg legal financial managerial insolvency practitioners etc
they can then pick a manageable group of 12 from those who put their names forwards

the steering group will then guide towards the formalisation of the supporters trust as a community interest company or whatever they chose to be

there are usually no formal positions without consensual agreement and it appears as though our bwfcst will be going down the pre-existing format of the association of supporters trusts..........

if they go down the trust route as expected - then trustees are not allowed to take any financial benefit from the trust that they run
they have to be elected by members
they can only serve for 3 years before having to stand down and let someone else do the role
theres nothing to stop anyone from standing for more terms of office provided there is a 12 months break in service

what else do you want to know ??

[nelson66]

And you still haven't answered the question I asked.
I shall break it down into bits:
Who is deciding who'll be on the Steering Group?
Or, is everyone who has expressed an interest, all 250+ of them, going to be the Steering Group?
(Hopefully that'll be cxnt-trick free enough for somebody to answer it).

thats quite an easy one
i have been involved in setting up a number of groups and charities
in order to set up any grouping/company/charity etc you need to have a number of people with an idea and or share a common cause

they can then ask others to join them in setting up a working group/steering group to further develop their ideas

the steering group is usually comprised of people with relevant skills and an interest in the original idea/cause

the current supporters trust initiators (the ones with the original proposal) have asked wanderers fans if they would like to be part of this steering group,,,, as they have particular interest in attracting people with relevant skills eg legal financial managerial insolvency practitioners etc
they can then pick a manageable group of 12 from those who put their names forwards

the steering group will then guide towards the formalisation of the supporters trust as a community interest company or whatever they chose to be

there are usually no formal positions without consensual agreement and it appears as though our bwfcst will be going down the pre-existing format of the association of supporters trusts..........

if they go down the trust route as expected - then trustees are not allowed to take any financial benefit from the trust that they run
they have to be elected by members
they can only serve for 3 years before having to stand down and let someone else do the role
theres nothing to stop anyone from standing for more terms of office provided there is a 12 months break in service

what else do you want to know ??

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ What parameters the choosees use to invite the chosen, and what balances are in place to avoid nepotism or similar when taking the 12 (or so) from the 250+
E.g. If 18 solicitors put their names forward and just one solicitor is required how are the 11 filtered out?

[Bijou Bob]

And you still haven't answered the question I asked.
I shall break it down into bits:
Who is deciding who'll be on the Steering Group?
Or, is everyone who has expressed an interest, all 250+ of them, going to be the Steering Group?
(Hopefully that'll be cxnt-trick free enough for somebody to answer it).

thats quite an easy one
i have been involved in setting up a number of groups and charities
in order to set up any grouping/company/charity etc you need to have a number of people with an idea and or share a common cause

they can then ask others to join them in setting up a working group/steering group to further develop their ideas

the steering group is usually comprised of people with relevant skills and an interest in the original idea/cause

the current supporters trust initiators (the ones with the original proposal) have asked wanderers fans if they would like to be part of this steering group,,,, as they have particular interest in attracting people with relevant skills eg legal financial managerial insolvency practitioners etc
they can then pick a manageable group of 12 from those who put their names forwards

the steering group will then guide towards the formalisation of the supporters trust as a community interest company or whatever they chose to be

there are usually no formal positions without consensual agreement and it appears as though our bwfcst will be going down the pre-existing format of the association of supporters trusts..........

if they go down the trust route as expected - then trustees are not allowed to take any financial benefit from the trust that they run
they have to be elected by members
they can only serve for 3 years before having to stand down and let someone else do the role
theres nothing to stop anyone from standing for more terms of office provided there is a 12 months break in service

what else do you want to know ??

Why don't you use capital letters to start a sentence?

What you are actually doing as a supporters trust will have the same impact as what I'm doing about all this - currently, the ironing.

Whatever happens, you'll have no more influence, authority or control at the club than we do now. Doing nothing is always an option in any circumstance, but it seems instead of considering this option and waiting to see what happens, some folk are determined to engage in a meaningless and utterly pointless exercise that benefits no one, least of all the club.

Bijou Bob - proud to be doing feck all (Apart from my shirts for next week).

[CrazyHorse]

If I nip round now, any chance you can do my shirts for me too? There's only one or two of them with yellow armpits, the rest are tip top.

[plymouth wanderer]

And you still haven't answered the question I asked.
I shall break it down into bits:
Who is deciding who'll be on the Steering Group?
Or, is everyone who has expressed an interest, all 250+ of them, going to be the Steering Group?
(Hopefully that'll be cxnt-trick free enough for somebody to answer it).

thats quite an easy one
i have been involved in setting up a number of groups and charities
in order to set up any grouping/company/charity etc you need to have a number of people with an idea and or share a common cause

they can then ask others to join them in setting up a working group/steering group to further develop their ideas

the steering group is usually comprised of people with relevant skills and an interest in the original idea/cause

the current supporters trust initiators (the ones with the original proposal) have asked wanderers fans if they would like to be part of this steering group,,,, as they have particular interest in attracting people with relevant skills eg legal financial managerial insolvency practitioners etc
they can then pick a manageable group of 12 from those who put their names forwards

the steering group will then guide towards the formalisation of the supporters trust as a community interest company or whatever they chose to be

there are usually no formal positions without consensual agreement and it appears as though our bwfcst will be going down the pre-existing format of the association of supporters trusts..........

if they go down the trust route as expected - then trustees are not allowed to take any financial benefit from the trust that they run
they have to be elected by members
they can only serve for 3 years before having to stand down and let someone else do the role
theres nothing to stop anyone from standing for more terms of office provided there is a 12 months break in service

what else do you want to know ??

Why don't you use capital letters to start a sentence?

What you are actually doing as a supporters trust will have the same impact as what I'm doing about all this - currently, the ironing.

Whatever happens, you'll have no more influence, authority or control at the club than we do now. Doing nothing is always an option in any circumstance, but it seems instead of considering this option and waiting to see what happens, some folk are determined to engage in a meaningless and utterly pointless exercise that benefits no one, least of all the club.

Bijou Bob - proud to be doing feck all (Apart from my shirts for next week).

Do you starch your shirts?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ What parameters the choosees use to invite the chosen, and what balances are in place to avoid nepotism or similar when taking the 12 (or so) from the 250+
E.g. If 18 solicitors put their names forward and just one solicitor is required how are the 11 filtered out?

Plus will the Steering Group be published or will it all still be in secret?
And what relationship, if any will Trevor Birch have to the Trust?
And will that change if administration is entered into?

And lots of other questions. But I'll leave you (or any other Supporter's Trustee) to answer those first. Ta.

[Bijou Bob]

^^ Plymouth- not these days. I wear polo shirts mainly, standards having dropped considerably in recent years as to what is considered suitable work wear. Ah, the good old days......

[plymouth wanderer]

^^ Plymouth- not these days. I wear polo shirts mainly, standards having dropped considerably in recent years as to what is considered suitable work wear. Ah, the good old days......

You mean you can't be fvcked?

[Bijou Bob]

No, no I don't. Is it just me that loves the satisfaction of a perfectly ironed shirt, with razor sharp creases, one per arm, no tram tracks allowable? Double cuffs pressed with one corner turned out, cufflinks polished and set exactly straight. Ahhhhhhh.