The Macron Stadium

[Lost Leopard Spot]

T-oof!

[Burnden Paddock]

New official BWFC app now available. It will also finally help with a decent internet connection when your in the stadium!

http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/new- ... 11999.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just downloaded it. Looks good. No need to fanny about with the shite website any more!

[ChrisC]

New official BWFC app now available. It will also finally help with a decent internet connection when your in the stadium!

http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/new- ... 11999.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just downloaded it. Looks good. No need to fanny about with the shite website any more!

Has push notifications on the IOS one so hopefully score updates for people who cant make the game.

[Burnden Paddock]

New official BWFC app now available. It will also finally help with a decent internet connection when your in the stadium!

http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/new- ... 11999.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just downloaded it. Looks good. No need to fanny about with the shite website any more!

Has push notifications on the IOS one so hopefully score updates for people who cant make the game.

I have absolutely no idea what that means!

[NiceHotCuppaTea]

Means your phone will beep/buzz/do the conga when there's an update (goal etc.).

[Lord Kangana]

The stadiums probably lead lined cos its built on a swamp!

[CAPSLOCK]

re the wifi, I sign in to the stadium wifi, so I don't see why that cant just be beefed up to allow you peasants to get on?

[Prufrock]

Now technology isn't my strong point, but whilst I can see how concrete walls could prevent some problem, there's none of them out in the stands. Surely a few dotted there and one in each concourse can't be that expensive? I mean, I'm not offering to pay for it myself like, but really?

[NiceHotCuppaTea]

There's a big difference between 3/4 people using a standard wifi hub like at home, compared to about 15/16k people using one (or two/three). Big money involved in that.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Now technology isn't my strong point, but whilst I can see how concrete walls could prevent some problem, there's none of them out in the stands. Surely a few dotted there and one in each concourse can't be that expensive? I mean, I'm not offering to pay for it myself like, but really?

Baaaandwidfth yoof, baaaaandwidf
Just imagine all that wifi as chocolate coated peanuts pouring out of a packet. If the packets hole isn't large enough only one or two choccy peanuts come out a a time and if some greedy bastard who's standing next to the packet keeps eating them, nobody else can get a choccy peanut themselves. The ideal solution is to have lots of packets with large openings pouring forth a multitude of peanuts such that the stadium is awash with choccy peanuts, but alas chocolate peanuts don't grow on trees...

[Prufrock]

People were specifically talking about the nature of the stadium being the problem. I understand how bandwidth could be a problem, but that isn't what folk were saying.

[Prufrock]

Ah something that's (sort of) my field of expertise! I work more in harmful radiation, but have some knowledge of wider stuff.

It's not just concrete that's an issue. Whilst thick layers of concrete will block out various radiation sources, it's more the support infrastructure that will cause an issue. If there's lots of intersecting girders and/or metal poles to support the stands, which there almost certainly is on such a large structure, it could be that the stadium walls are acting as a Faraday Cage which could be seriously interfering with electromagnetic waves (signal is typically UHF radio) causing the crappy signal that you're all reporting. For mobile signal that is your Edge/2g/3g/4g. You might also be getting destructive interference from various signal towers; think multiple sources of music and you're trying to listen to just one. Lots of issues at play, it's unfortunately not just as simple as "I'm outside therefore I must have signal".

As LLS says in his analogy, if you're having trouble with wifi connection it's going to be a combination of the concrete and support architecture interfering with signals, and also "bandwidth" being used up by lots of people accessing it all at once. Even at large facilities, such as conferences that I go to, 15k+ people accessing wireless networks all at once generally slows it down to a crawl.

We could rent out some stadium space for a signal tower, say on one of the floodlights. Get some cash in for transfers so that Dougie can sign the striker we so desperately need

Would a wifi router inside each concourse not solve that though. Then each concourse is a 'room' as it were. Again, a wifi router outside in the stands shouldn't have those problems?

[mrplow]

Ah something that's (sort of) my field of expertise! I work more in harmful radiation, but have some knowledge of wider stuff.

It's not just concrete that's an issue. Whilst thick layers of concrete will block out various radiation sources, it's more the support infrastructure that will cause an issue. If there's lots of intersecting girders and/or metal poles to support the stands, which there almost certainly is on such a large structure, it could be that the stadium walls are acting as a Faraday Cage which could be seriously interfering with electromagnetic waves (signal is typically UHF radio) causing the crappy signal that you're all reporting. For mobile signal that is your Edge/2g/3g/4g. You might also be getting destructive interference from various signal towers; think multiple sources of music and you're trying to listen to just one. Lots of issues at play, it's unfortunately not just as simple as "I'm outside therefore I must have signal".

As LLS says in his analogy, if you're having trouble with wifi connection it's going to be a combination of the concrete and support architecture interfering with signals, and also "bandwidth" being used up by lots of people accessing it all at once. Even at large facilities, such as conferences that I go to, 15k+ people accessing wireless networks all at once generally slows it down to a crawl.

We could rent out some stadium space for a signal tower, say on one of the floodlights. Get some cash in for transfers so that Dougie can sign the striker we so desperately need

Would a wifi router inside each concourse not solve that though. Then each concourse is a 'room' as it were. Again, a wifi router outside in the stands shouldn't have those problems?

The Company I work for do this sort of thing and it's more complicated than that. You need about £50k's worth of access points and antennas to cover a stadium the size of ours, plus a wireless controller and software. It's a fair sized investment for not much reward (although the betting companies are keen on the idea so they can allow supporters to use 'in play' betting).

[Riviman]

My goodness it's like reading "The Scientist", better quality of post than we normally get !!

[Prufrock]

Ah something that's (sort of) my field of expertise! I work more in harmful radiation, but have some knowledge of wider stuff.

It's not just concrete that's an issue. Whilst thick layers of concrete will block out various radiation sources, it's more the support infrastructure that will cause an issue. If there's lots of intersecting girders and/or metal poles to support the stands, which there almost certainly is on such a large structure, it could be that the stadium walls are acting as a Faraday Cage which could be seriously interfering with electromagnetic waves (signal is typically UHF radio) causing the crappy signal that you're all reporting. For mobile signal that is your Edge/2g/3g/4g. You might also be getting destructive interference from various signal towers; think multiple sources of music and you're trying to listen to just one. Lots of issues at play, it's unfortunately not just as simple as "I'm outside therefore I must have signal".

As LLS says in his analogy, if you're having trouble with wifi connection it's going to be a combination of the concrete and support architecture interfering with signals, and also "bandwidth" being used up by lots of people accessing it all at once. Even at large facilities, such as conferences that I go to, 15k+ people accessing wireless networks all at once generally slows it down to a crawl.

We could rent out some stadium space for a signal tower, say on one of the floodlights. Get some cash in for transfers so that Dougie can sign the striker we so desperately need

Would a wifi router inside each concourse not solve that though. Then each concourse is a 'room' as it were. Again, a wifi router outside in the stands shouldn't have those problems?

The Company I work for do this sort of thing and it's more complicated than that. You need about £50k's worth of access points and antennas to cover a stadium the size of ours, plus a wireless controller and software. It's a fair sized investment for not much reward (although the betting companies are keen on the idea so they can allow supporters to use 'in play' betting).

Fine Darren Pratley a month's wages under the Trade Descriptions Act and there we go.

[jaffka]

We could always just do without internet for around 90 mins or so, like we used to.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

We could always just do without internet for around 90 mins or so, like we used to.

But then how would we share our passive aggressive feelings and get our opinions validated by loose acquaintances, hashtagging our despair at the final whistle?

We wouldn't. I think that might be jaffka's point.

[jaffka]

We could always just do without internet for around 90 mins or so, like we used to.

But then how would we share our passive aggressive feelings and get our opinions validated by loose acquaintances, hashtagging our despair at the final whistle?

We wouldn't. I think that might be jaffka's point.

Aye, it is.

Like we couldn't before.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

We could always just do without internet for around 90 mins or so, like we used to.

But then how would we share our passive aggressive feelings and get our opinions validated by loose acquaintances, hashtagging our despair at the final whistle?

We wouldn't. I think that might be jaffka's point.

Sorry, was meant as sarcasm! I meant it as a flippant, hypothetical question poking fun at people who post streams of drivel on Facebook and Twitter! I'll try to make it a little more obvious next time, sarcasm can be lost in translation in text form.

Yeh, I know. I was merely highlighting the inherent sarcasm by being waggish. #lostwaggishness

[Beefheart]

Could even make real time decisions for players, at the minute they must get confused when some people shout 'Get rid!' or 'Man on!' when someone else will shout 'Keep hold of it!' or 'Time!', can also decide whether a striker should shoot or pass.