All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:56 pm

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Just seen the whole draw was fixed / seeded so ‘big’ clubs avoided each other…which doesn’t quite feel right…
Not seeded. It’s because one week is champions league games the next is uefa cup games. So had to ensure champs and uefa teams didn’t meet.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

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We will get knocked out
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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by Mar » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:56 pm

Lovely fixture, should be a nice cash cow and help us to reminisce about the old days.

Something about being drawn against Arsenal. Three successive seasons in the FA Cup from 2005-2007, now its time for the League Cup.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by Mar » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:56 pm
officer_dibble wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:53 pm
Just seen the whole draw was fixed / seeded so ‘big’ clubs avoided each other…which doesn’t quite feel right…
Not seeded. It’s because one week is champions league games the next is uefa cup games. So had to ensure champs and uefa teams didn’t meet.
Seems a bit 'suspect' that it favours them not playing each other. That being said, I think there's should be an argument for having a draw where you don't face teams in your own league.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by jmjhb » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:58 pm

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I assume we get half the ticket revenue? If so good tie. We will get knocked out so won’t have a bunch of extra games and will get a pay day.
Looking at our fixtures, there's a 11-day break before Huddersfield at home and another week between that and the Reading match.

I'd be tempted to play the first XI.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:01 pm

Pulling the kids out of school inside the first month is going to cause a fuss :D

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by sonicthewhite » Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:04 pm

jmjhb wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:58 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:52 pm
I assume we get half the ticket revenue? If so good tie. We will get knocked out so won’t have a bunch of extra games and will get a pay day.
Looking at our fixtures, there's a 11-day break before Huddersfield at home and another week between that and the Reading match.

I'd be tempted to play the first XI.
Agreed. If we still harbour moneyball ambitions then we need to showcase our best players. On the one hand they play a blinder and we get juicy offers for them in Jan. On the other hand they play shit, get injured and scuttle HMS Pisstheleague! At least it adds to the excitement 😅
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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by The_Gun » Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:04 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
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Fixtures are 16th to 23rd. Arsenal have the North London Derby on the 15th and City on the 22nd, both away.
Champions league is w/c 16th. So games with chumps league clubs will be w/c 23rd.
So it will be Wednesday the 25th then.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:06 pm

The_Gun wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:04 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:55 pm
GhostoftheBok wrote:
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Fixtures are 16th to 23rd. Arsenal have the North London Derby on the 15th and City on the 22nd, both away.
Champions league is w/c 16th. So games with chumps league clubs will be w/c 23rd.
So it will be Wednesday the 25th then.
Looks so. Directly after the City game then. Will take that. They've no weak side, but we can tell ourselves we have a "chance"...al you need in the build up.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:07 pm

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Champions league is w/c 16th. So games with chumps league clubs will be w/c 23rd.
Yup. My fault. Misread it.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by Prufrock » Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:45 am

Not quite as much as it was this time last year when I could hear the ground out of the window. But it's a toss up whether that or Spurs is the nearer walk.
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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by The_Gun » Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:39 am

I remember watching us there back in 2011, which I guess must have been the last time we played Arsenal.

Looking at the lineups from that day, I think potentially only Fabianski and Chuks Aneke (who played against us last week) are still professional footballers.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:45 am

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I remember watching us there back in 2011, which I guess must have been the last time we played Arsenal.

Looking at the lineups from that day, I think potentially only Fabianski and Chuks Aneke (who played against us last week) are still professional footballers.
Last one was at ours in Feb 2012. We'd played down there twice in autumn - and as usual, lost. (Even that win was the week after a Wembley defeat we'd rather not dwell upon.)
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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:14 am

94 - last time we won there. What a night that was. Felt a bit like a dream - Andy Walker back from injury sealed it with the sort of goal that was his trademark pre injury. Sadly he never was quite the same - but that night we were living the dream. Arsenal were at that stage a top side with George Graham and I don’t think we went there expecting to win after an entertaining draw at home.

For me the best of our cup triumphs in that period. Even better than Liverpool.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

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94 - last time we won there. What a night that was. Felt a bit like a dream - Andy Walker back from injury sealed it with the sort of goal that was his trademark pre injury. Sadly he never was quite the same - but that night we were living the dream. Arsenal were at that stage a top side with George Graham and I don’t think we went there expecting to win after an entertaining draw at home.

For me the best of our cup triumphs in that period. Even better than Liverpool.
I'd moved to London the previous year and worked with a gobby gooner. I lorded it for weeks after that game :oyea:

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:42 pm

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94 - last time we won there. What a night that was. Felt a bit like a dream - Andy Walker back from injury sealed it with the sort of goal that was his trademark pre injury. Sadly he never was quite the same - but that night we were living the dream. Arsenal were at that stage a top side with George Graham and I don’t think we went there expecting to win after an entertaining draw at home.

For me the best of our cup triumphs in that period. Even better than Liverpool.
I'd moved to London the previous year and worked with a gobby gooner. I lorded it for weeks after that game :oyea:
I liked Arsenal back then. Highbury a proper ground. Went back a few years later when Rioch was their manager and we were already relegated, last day of the season. Still a lot of fun.

Beating them with the experience in that side was absolutely amazing and in hindsight only seems more so. Liverpool with Souness and the chaos you can sort of see. But winning at Highbury still seems like the equivalent of us going to the Etihad now and coming away with a win.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:03 pm

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Beating them with the experience in that side was absolutely amazing and in hindsight only seems more so. Liverpool with Souness and the chaos you can sort of see. But winning at Highbury still seems like the equivalent of us going to the Etihad now and coming away with a win.
It wasn't quite *that* good, fella. Stroller Graham's side had won the title in 1989 and 1991 but had finished 10th in 1993. On that glorious night we handed them their neatly plated arse, they were third – but a gobsmacking 21pts behind leaders ManYoo (they were only 2pts further away from relegation).
https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/pre ... uary-1994/

It was also the third time in just over a year we'd drawn at home to a Big Five team, then gone to win the replay at their hallowed halls. As you infer, Liverpool were – in hindsight - falling off their perch, but as the first of those glory nights it was easily the most wonderful IMO... we couldn't quoite believe what we were watching.

None of which is to take away from the wonder of that night (and others!) which clearly we all still remember fondly three decades on. But the idea they were as domestically dominant as City is fetched a little far. They'd won the league twice in 23 years. And this is before, or rather right at the beginning of, the Premier League/Champions League era of increasing inequality all but pulling up the ladder on those below.

But yeah. What a night. Have that, Gooners :mrgreen:

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:42 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:03 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:42 pm
Beating them with the experience in that side was absolutely amazing and in hindsight only seems more so. Liverpool with Souness and the chaos you can sort of see. But winning at Highbury still seems like the equivalent of us going to the Etihad now and coming away with a win.
It wasn't quite *that* good, fella. Stroller Graham's side had won the title in 1989 and 1991 but had finished 10th in 1993. On that glorious night we handed them their neatly plated arse, they were third – but a gobsmacking 21pts behind leaders ManYoo (they were only 2pts further away from relegation).
https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/pre ... uary-1994/

It was also the third time in just over a year we'd drawn at home to a Big Five team, then gone to win the replay at their hallowed halls. As you infer, Liverpool were – in hindsight - falling off their perch, but as the first of those glory nights it was easily the most wonderful IMO... we couldn't quoite believe what we were watching.

None of which is to take away from the wonder of that night (and others!) which clearly we all still remember fondly three decades on. But the idea they were as domestically dominant as City is fetched a little far. They'd won the league twice in 23 years. And this is before, or rather right at the beginning of, the Premier League/Champions League era of increasing inequality all but pulling up the ladder on those below.

But yeah. What a night. Have that, Gooners :mrgreen:
Not quite that good. But factor in Man City would likely play a few kids whereas this was the Arse first team.

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Re: All Change at Shrews: Shrewsbury Away, EFL Cup 2nd Round, Tue 27th Aug 19:45

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:00 pm

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I liked Arsenal back then. Highbury a proper ground. Went back a few years later when Rioch was their manager and we were already relegated, last day of the season. Still a lot of fun.
I was in the Arsenal end behind the goal for that one. I may have gotten a glare or two when went one nil up :mrgreen: Went to a fair few Arsenal games back then as I had a less gobby gooner mate that often had a spare ticket.

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