Terriers Barking, But Can Bolton Bite Back? - Bolton v Hudderfield - 14/09/2024 @ 3pm

[GhostoftheBok]

Amazing Freudian Slip in Thommo's post match.

Oh do tell, what was it?

Oh he was trying to do a pitch about how the players were responsible for recent results and instead of saying "We are responsible" about the group he said "He is responsible" about Evatt, then quickly corrected himself.

Woops.

[nicholaldo]

If what seems to be the inevitable happens, I'd imagine Ludonautics might come in useful when looking for a replacement?

Although, I'm not sure of the current situation with them given Edwards' recent decision to rejoin Liverpool.

[BWFC_Insane]

Thommo was absolutely awful today. But I think it says a lot about where we are as a club that after today we are sending a young lad out to do the media. Today is a day for the captain and senior pros to stand up.

[TANGODANCER]

Huddersfield fought for every ball and defended like pack of wolves. We, of course, insist on giving the opposition a guided tour of our half and their wings had a field day just whopping balls into our box, where we mumbled and fumbled them right back to them. Even when the score was still 0-0 we never looked like troubling them.

And the ref??? football rules need an update. Five years ago half the Huddersfield side would have been carded and a couple probably sent off. They jump all over us and foul at will and the ref turns a blind one. A shove in the back is standard fare. And that time-wasing injured player was a huge con. A minute later he was springing about like a frog on a hotplate.

Okay, that 's it.

[Worthy4England]

I definitely agree that we need to pot Evatt, but not for Big Sam. fecking hell lads, get a grip.

Reasonable!

[Worthy4England]

Thommo was absolutely awful today. But I think it says a lot about where we are as a club that after today we are sending a young lad out to do the media. Today is a day for the captain and senior pros to stand up.

I agree he did plenty wrong. But. He was probably our hardest trying outfield player...

[BWFC_Insane]

Thommo was absolutely awful today. But I think it says a lot about where we are as a club that after today we are sending a young lad out to do the media. Today is a day for the captain and senior pros to stand up.

I agree he did plenty wrong. But. He was probably our hardest trying outfield player...

I mean shortest dwarf syndrome there mate. He pretty much always is.

I daren’t articulate what I think of some of these players. They are absolute disgraces some of them.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

If what seems to be the inevitable happens, I'd imagine Ludonautics might come in useful when looking for a replacement?

Although, I'm not sure of the current situation with them given Edwards' recent decision to rejoin Liverpool.

Do they have a Manager Search box alongside the player one? Genuinely dunno. What are the data points? xG?

[Worthy4England]

Thommo was absolutely awful today. But I think it says a lot about where we are as a club that after today we are sending a young lad out to do the media. Today is a day for the captain and senior pros to stand up.

I agree he did plenty wrong. But. He was probably our hardest trying outfield player...

I mean shortest dwarf syndrome there mate. He pretty much always is.

I daren’t articulate what I think of some of these players. They are absolute disgraces some of them.

It was godawful. Over 90 minites, but not surprising. I'm fed up, with listening to management 101 who don't have "win" as their KPI (they probably have KPI's). "We've built three passes." Well fcuking well done you. We all had Lego - it didn't always build a house.

[Worthy4England]

If what seems to be the inevitable happens, I'd imagine Ludonautics might come in useful when looking for a replacement?

Although, I'm not sure of the current situation with them given Edwards' recent decision to rejoin Liverpool.

Do they have a Manager Search box alongside the player one? Genuinely dunno. What are the data points? xG?

[Worthy4England]

The Department of Football have stats for everything. Fear not.

[BWFC_Insane]

Thommo was absolutely awful today. But I think it says a lot about where we are as a club that after today we are sending a young lad out to do the media. Today is a day for the captain and senior pros to stand up.

I agree he did plenty wrong. But. He was probably our hardest trying outfield player...

I mean shortest dwarf syndrome there mate. He pretty much always is.

I daren’t articulate what I think of some of these players. They are absolute disgraces some of them.

It was godawful. Over 90 minites, but not surprising. I'm fed up, with listening to management 101 who don't have "win" as their KPI (they probably have KPI's). "We've built three passes." Well fcuking well done you. We all had Lego - it didn't always build a house.

He wangs on about his win percentage but winning when it really matters % is what distinguishes the good from the dross.

Parky has a far higher win % at Wrexham than most but context for it matters.

[nicholaldo]

If what seems to be the inevitable happens, I'd imagine Ludonautics might come in useful when looking for a replacement?

Although, I'm not sure of the current situation with them given Edwards' recent decision to rejoin Liverpool.

Do they have a Manager Search box alongside the player one? Genuinely dunno. What are the data points? xG?

Who knows, but they might at least have some good contacts within the sport.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

If what seems to be the inevitable happens, I'd imagine Ludonautics might come in useful when looking for a replacement?

Although, I'm not sure of the current situation with them given Edwards' recent decision to rejoin Liverpool.

Do they have a Manager Search box alongside the player one? Genuinely dunno. What are the data points? xG?

Who knows, but they might at least have some good contacts within the sport.

Yeah true, although 'contacts book' is a different thing to 'data points' which is what yer Ludonauticses tend to sell themselves on.

Never hurts to have a network, though. It's unlikely to be on a spreadsheet, but the folks who watch the players/games will also make qualitative assessments.

[GhostoftheBok]

If we're talking contacts and "who knows who" then David Wagner is out of a job at the minute.

[nicholaldo]

If we're talking contacts and "who knows who" then David Wagner is out of a job at the minute.

I could see it happening actually.

[Prufrock]

If what seems to be the inevitable happens, I'd imagine Ludonautics might come in useful when looking for a replacement?

Although, I'm not sure of the current situation with them given Edwards' recent decision to rejoin Liverpool.

Do they have a Manager Search box alongside the player one? Genuinely dunno. What are the data points? xG?

They definitely do. A friend of a friend is the chairman at USG in Belgium. Made his money in professional gambling through which he got close to Bloom at Brighton and then to Belgium. They very much have an analytics approach to management. What Belgium [edit: Brighton, not Belgium] did with the pre-schooler they've got in charge now and "apparently" a big part of Slot to Scouse (the alternative narrative is every other feck* said no).

Like player recruitment it's not an answer in the sense it runs the numbers and pops out an answer, but if they're seriously involved I suspect it'll play a part in at least "sifting".

He's done, but I hope we're not (and doubt we are) in baby and bathwater territory.

For all the yearning for an end to tippy tappy back to maximum wage and players getting the bus home, the recent past suggests the way out of this league remains (all that is wrong with) Modern Football. This version has last its way. I'd like the next one to be a convert, just not one who's born again.

[BWFC_Insane]

If we're talking contacts and "who knows who" then David Wagner is out of a job at the minute.

One success at Huddersfield followed by a long list of failures. Another manager deemed good far too early based on far too little for me.

[GhostoftheBok]

They definitely do.

Yes, but it's more based around in-house work and boutique contract stuff.

The raw data is valuable and available. The modelling is a lot of man-hours and much more specific, so isn't offered in detail by the aggregators.

Agents are increasingly keen on it, as a way of selling clients. Elite clubs tend to use data to track a longlist of coaches at all times, just in case.

At our level the most you'd usually see would be a tight selection of data used to test a short list.

We may be revolutionary, though. Gerald Scheiblehner anyone?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

If we're talking contacts and "who knows who" then David Wagner is out of a job at the minute.

One success at Huddersfield followed by a long list of failures. Another manager deemed good far too early based on far too little for me.

That said, one of a vanishingly small number of managers to be promoted with negative goal difference, so it might please the minimalists to whom results are everything.


(Cheers Pru - interesting)

We may be revolutionary, though. Gerald Scheiblehner anyone?

Gesundheit.

Not sure he'd leave his top-flight club in his home country...