The Debt.

[Gary the Enfield]

I think we should have a TW Panic Fanny t-shirt. The previous shirts were rip roaring successes and proceeds could go towards paying the tea lady or summat.

Who is in?

Only if it can be made into a 'be reet' reversible option.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I think we should have a TW Panic Fanny t-shirt. The previous shirts were rip roaring successes and proceeds could go towards paying the tea lady or summat.

Who is in?

Only if it can be made into a 'be reet' reversible option.

Superfluous and wouldn't make you a proper panic fanny.

[BWFC_Insane]

Even the Bolton News are starting to get on Eddie Davies' back now.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_clarity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[StaffsTrotter]

Even the Bolton News are starting to get on Eddie Davies' back now.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_clarity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

was just about to say that Iles was getting brave and calling Eddie out. Timings a bit strange, as although wont expect Eddie to respond, I would've thought that entering admin would have been a more obvious trigger

[Bruce Rioja]

Even the Bolton News are starting to get on Eddie Davies' back now.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_clarity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I read that earlier. The cynic in me suspects that it's more a case of frustration on the part of Marc Isles that he can't get a story out of the club which he's attempting to dress up as this you-owe-an-explanation-to-the-supporters burning martyr act.

[Burnden Paddock]

I think we should have a TW Panic Fanny t-shirt. The previous shirts were rip roaring successes and proceeds could go towards paying the tea lady or summat.

Who is in?

Please don't allow LE anywhere near the design department!!

[jonnycooper]

Even the Bolton News are starting to get on Eddie Davies' back now.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_clarity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BRAVO,Marc Iles!!!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I think we should have a TW Panic Fanny t-shirt. The previous shirts were rip roaring successes and proceeds could go towards paying the tea lady or summat.

Who is in?

I'm in so long as it's pink.

[Bruce Rioja]

I think we should have a TW Panic Fanny t-shirt. The previous shirts were rip roaring successes and proceeds could go towards paying the tea lady or summat.

Who is in?

I'm in so long as it's pink.

I'm sure it will be............... partly

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I think we should have a TW Panic Fanny t-shirt. The previous shirts were rip roaring successes and proceeds could go towards paying the tea lady or summat.

Who is in?

I'm in so long as it's pink.

I'm sure it will be............... partly

[BWFC_Insane]

Even the Bolton News are starting to get on Eddie Davies' back now.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... e_clarity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I read that earlier. The cynic in me suspects that it's more a case of frustration on the part of Marc Isles that he can't get a story out of the club which he's attempting to dress up as this you-owe-an-explanation-to-the-supporters burning martyr act.

The points are fair though, in the main. The fact is Eddie was very generous to the club, and actually saved it when first investing. He isn't some evil force bleeding the club dry, no where near the figure his detractors like to paint him as.

However, I find it impossible to defend the last few years. Absolutely not fair to expect Eddie to keep dishing out money but equally it is his business, a business that he let continue spending money and dishing out contracts he MUST have known couldn't be honoured. And then let that business take out loans with dangerous terms that risked the club entirely.

I don't think he is anything other than a fan that put money in and then just couldn't stop. But I do think he has to be responsible for what seems like a few years of burying heads in the sand and recklessness of the highest order.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I think sometimes we also forget the little investors who basically lost their investments way back at the beginning of 1 AD (Anno Davies).

[boltonboris]

He's a nice person... I've used this analogy before nut I'll use it again

Let's say I'm a multi-millionaire and I go meet a bird with a couple of kids.. I put the kids through private school and they love it and they make friends there. I house them all in a lovely mansion and give them a great lifestyle.. Nice guy aren't I?

Then one day a few years later, the missus ain't looking as sexy as she once did and I'm a bit bored of her, so I stop funding the family, I stop paying for their school, I stop paying the bills in the house and I make them fend for themselves despite them becoming accustomed to the life that I gave them. I can still afford it, but I just don't want to do it anymore.

Not such a nice guy afterall, am I?

[norm the jedi]

He's a tw*t... I've used this analogy before nut I'll use it again

Let's say I'm a multi-millionaire and I go meet a bird with a couple of kids.. I put the kids through private school and they love it and they make friends there. I house them all in a lovely mansion and give them a great lifestyle.. Nice guy aren't I?

Then one day a few years later, the missus ain't looking as sexy as she once did and I'm a bit bored of her, so I stop funding the family, I stop paying for their school, I stop paying the bills in the house and I make them fend for themselves despite them becoming accustomed to the life that I gave them. I can still afford it, but I just don't want to do it anymore.

Not such a nice guy afterall, am I?

Except that in this instance the Millionaire has found a girl and a young family etc and then employed a professional to service her and manage the household.
To what extent the financier has then drunk that professionals cool aid for donkeys until he's popped in one day and seen him digging a hole in the back yard and chucking burning £50's into it is anyones guess. ?

[BWFC_Insane]

He's a tw*t... I've used this analogy before nut I'll use it again

Let's say I'm a multi-millionaire and I go meet a bird with a couple of kids.. I put the kids through private school and they love it and they make friends there. I house them all in a lovely mansion and give them a great lifestyle.. Nice guy aren't I?

Then one day a few years later, the missus ain't looking as sexy as she once did and I'm a bit bored of her, so I stop funding the family, I stop paying for their school, I stop paying the bills in the house and I make them fend for themselves despite them becoming accustomed to the life that I gave them. I can still afford it, but I just don't want to do it anymore.

Not such a nice guy afterall, am I?

Except that in this instance the Millionaire has found a girl and a young family etc and then employed a professional to service her and manage the household.
To what extent the financier has then drunk that professionals cool aid for donkeys until he's popped in one day and seen him digging a hole in the back yard and chucking burning £50's into it is anyones guess. ?

That doesn't wash. Eddie employed folk to run aspects or even all the business, yes. But it wasn't exactly buried in day to day operational detail the fact that he was covering huge losses. So he can't claim he didn't know how bad things were. We didn't because we had no idea he was totally withdrawing ALL financial support. Only he knew that.

[norm the jedi]

He's a tw*t... I've used this analogy before nut I'll use it again

Let's say I'm a multi-millionaire and I go meet a bird with a couple of kids.. I put the kids through private school and they love it and they make friends there. I house them all in a lovely mansion and give them a great lifestyle.. Nice guy aren't I?

Then one day a few years later, the missus ain't looking as sexy as she once did and I'm a bit bored of her, so I stop funding the family, I stop paying for their school, I stop paying the bills in the house and I make them fend for themselves despite them becoming accustomed to the life that I gave them. I can still afford it, but I just don't want to do it anymore.

Not such a nice guy afterall, am I?

Except that in this instance the Millionaire has found a girl and a young family etc and then employed a professional to service her and manage the household.
To what extent the financier has then drunk that professionals cool aid for donkeys until he's popped in one day and seen him digging a hole in the back yard and chucking burning £50's into it is anyones guess. ?

That doesn't wash. Eddie employed folk to run aspects or even all the business, yes. But it wasn't exactly buried in day to day operational detail the fact that he was covering huge losses. So he can't claim he didn't know how bad things were. We didn't because we had no idea he was totally withdrawing ALL financial support. Only he knew that.

Oh Aye fair enough. I was mostly challenging the analogy as being not analoguous to circumstances. Rather than the actuality.

However summat has precipitated the change of position is it way off to say the money man stopped believing the bullshit from the 'professional'

[BWFC_Insane]

^^well it was Eddies choice who to employ. And he could have changed at any point.

I read it more that he stuck money in when it suited him above anything else. Which is fair enough. But for a good few years at the start he was reticent to put money into the playing squad.

[StaffsTrotter]

He's a tw*t... I've used this analogy before nut I'll use it again

Let's say I'm a multi-millionaire and I go meet a bird with a couple of kids.. I put the kids through private school and they love it and they make friends there. I house them all in a lovely mansion and give them a great lifestyle.. Nice guy aren't I?

Then one day a few years later, the missus ain't looking as sexy as she once did and I'm a bit bored of her, so I stop funding the family, I stop paying for their school, I stop paying the bills in the house and I make them fend for themselves despite them becoming accustomed to the life that I gave them. I can still afford it, but I just don't want to do it anymore.

Not such a nice guy afterall, am I?

Except that in this instance the Millionaire has found a girl and a young family etc and then employed a professional to service her and manage the household.
To what extent the financier has then drunk that professionals cool aid for donkeys until he's popped in one day and seen him digging a hole in the back yard and chucking burning £50's into it is anyones guess. ?

That doesn't wash. Eddie employed folk to run aspects or even all the business, yes. But it wasn't exactly buried in day to day operational detail the fact that he was covering huge losses. So he can't claim he didn't know how bad things were. We didn't because we had no idea he was totally withdrawing ALL financial support. Only he knew that.

YIP but we also dont know the whys and wherefores of that withdrawal. As I've said elsewhere I'm assuming its a feckin good reason and not the boredom theory, but growing less convinced that its nothing more than a Dunkirk type withdrawal

[boltonboris]

Well he's not skint

P'raps he's ill and wants to ensure he keeps any of his remaining personal wealth for his family. The selfish ill nice person

[LeverEnd]

He kept his mate Gartside in charge when he should have binned him ages ago.
Boris' analogy is a good one, once he made the club totally reliant on him he had a moral duty to exit in a responsible manner. He doesn't have to 'keep it in the manner to which it is accustomed', but he shouldn't be tossing it aside like a plaything he's bored with. That does make him a nice person.