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[BWFC_Insane]

Rodrigo is a striker and not a left bloody winger!

[aussie_wanderer]

well ive never seen him play as a striker

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Seems to me like he's trying to invest in a young & talented squad, who can be introduced at the right times to gain experience. Plus, he knows more than us about how much money we have to spend and what players he's after...so i'm quite happy to trust OC's judgement on this one.

[BWFC_Insane]

Seems to me like he's trying to invest in a young & talented squad, who can be introduced at the right times to gain experience. Plus, he knows more than us about how much money we have to spend and what players he's after...so i'm quite happy to trust OC's judgement on this one.

Like Alonso? I'm not sure as a club we can afford to spend fees on young players who will be "introduced" slowly, not until we have plugged some of the gaps we have in the first team at least!

[ohjimmyjimmy]

i wish half of you would go and support man utd.

Fcking hinsight doesnt get our money back does it, but at least the club's trying !

[BWFC_Insane]

i wish half of you would go and support man utd.
Fcking hinsight doesnt get our money back does it, but at least the club's trying !

Eh?

[Lord Kangana]

Still don't get the Alonso shit.

Really not that bad. Certainly nowhere near Danny SHittu.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Seems you might, just *might*, have that perfect situation then where you might have nowt to complain about, and where you can buy who the hell you pretty much like.

If you're asked 'who would you buy then,that would come to us' , you would probably say its not your job its the managers. Well this is who the manager is looking at - you offer no constructive alternatives.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Still don't get the Alonso shit.

Really not that bad. Certainly nowhere near Danny SHittu.

It's the stock critique at the moment, to the manager's transfer dealings.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

In other news, apparently WBA, Stoke & Newcastle are all ineterested in taking Sturridge on loan. I'd probably back us to beat all them off to be honest.

[BWFC_Insane]

Seems you might, just *might*, have that perfect situation then where you might have nowt to complain about, and where you can buy who the hell you pretty much like.

If you're asked 'who would you buy then,that would come to us' , you would probably say its not your job its the managers. Well this is who the manager is looking at - you offer no constructive alternatives.

Aye cos what I want is a "perfect" situation. Jesus christ. I'm hardly there with the pitchforks complaining am I? Merely discussing a transfer possibility.

I haven't got to the level of the "I'm not going till Megson has gone" utter wankers. I'm relatively happy with things, that doesn't meant that there aren't genuine concerns with the shape of our squad at present.

As for suggestions well here's one for starters...

I'd personally rather have given Elmander the fooking 3.5M and Rodrigo's wages seeing as we had both last season and it was OUR MANAGERS' choice to pick Elmander ahead of Rodrigo.

There is an inherently greater risk signing young players yet to prove themselves at any sort of a first team level yet, no matter how great the promise. You just never know if they'll really make it or not. I think generally younger players is the way forwards but I'm expressing concern that we're spending what to us is an awful lot of Rodrigo who couldn't get in our side last season when we haven't plugged the gaps we have up front in midfield and at the back. If Coyle sees Rodrigo as first choice then fair enough. But surely we can't afford to spend that money on him for him to sit on the bench the majority of the time?

[ChrisC]

I wouldn't say no to Rodrigo. I'm happy to see the club going for young players rather than 30 somethings. Wouldn't surprise me if the Rodrigo deal is dependent on us getting the 4 mil for Al Habsi.

[Lord Kangana]

It took 2 years for Elmander to realise he was a footballer. I don't see the problem with waiting for him to fulfil his potential.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Folk whinge when we discuss buying top prem players cos they have no resale value. Folk whinge when we invest in quality youth players cos they aint top prem players straight away. And in the middle is a group of players who are neither one nor t'other, and these are the kind of players we're releasing and hoping not to see the likes of again.

[TKIZ!]

It took 2 years for Elmander to realise he was a footballer. I don't see the problem with waiting for him to fulfil his potential.

I think this is what Coyle is trying to build at BWFC, a team that grow together. We all saw what happened once BSA charges got too old

[BWFC_Insane]

Folk whinge when we discuss buying top prem players cos they have no resale value. Folk whinge when we invest in quality youth players cos they aint top prem players straight away. And in the middle is a group of players who are neither one nor t'other, and these are the kind of players we're releasing and hoping not to see the likes of again.

Its about the balance. Its also about the right players and the prices. Rodrigo on loan then great. But for 3.5M thats a big risk.

We spent 2M on Alonso and I doubt he'll ever play for us again and lets face it he wasn't exactly "great" when he did. But essentially the net result is 2M down the drain. If we spend serious money on Rodrigo there is the same chance we lose it. Which is why the amounts just seem risky. Had he really proven himself last season then fine. But even at the end with all our injuries and poor results he still couldn't really break into the side!

[thebish]

Folk whinge when we discuss buying top prem players cos they have no resale value. Folk whinge when we invest in quality youth players cos they aint top prem players straight away. And in the middle is a group of players who are neither one nor t'other, and these are the kind of players we're releasing and hoping not to see the likes of again.

Its about the balance. Its also about the right players and the prices. Rodrigo on loan then great. But for 3.5M thats a big risk.

We spent 2M on Alonso and I doubt he'll ever play for us again and lets face it he wasn't exactly "great" when he did. But essentially the net result is 2M down the drain. If we spend serious money on Rodrigo there is the same chance we lose it.

can you explain the maths behind that bizarre statement?

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Yeah fair enough BWFCi, but my initial comment was more on the policy he is at least attempting. One or two will find the step up ultimately too big, regardless of how many years they plug away at it. But plundering the best of the spanish talent at a young age isnt a bad idea considering, but some will always just be good at youth level and not all will be world champions. Obviously OC sees something in Rodrigo in his overall masterplan.

[truewhite15]

Folk whinge when we discuss buying top prem players cos they have no resale value. Folk whinge when we invest in quality youth players cos they aint top prem players straight away. And in the middle is a group of players who are neither one nor t'other, and these are the kind of players we're releasing and hoping not to see the likes of again.

Its about the balance. Its also about the right players and the prices. Rodrigo on loan then great. But for 3.5M thats a big risk.

We spent 2M on Alonso and I doubt he'll ever play for us again and lets face it he wasn't exactly "great" when he did. But essentially the net result is 2M down the drain. If we spend serious money on Rodrigo there is the same chance we lose it. Which is why the amounts just seem risky. Had he really proven himself last season then fine. But even at the end with all our injuries and poor results he still couldn't really break into the side!

But it's only £2M down the drain because of a non-football related incident that we had no control over. If you'll take off the perma-gloom specs, then you should notice that Alonso was improving - he didn't play all that much, but every time he did, he was a little bit better than the last time. Would it have been £2M down the drain if, this time next season, he'd got another 10 games or more under his belt, and was ready to take over from an ailing, ageing Robinson? No, of course it wouldn't - but it would probably have been about £2/3M saved.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Folk whinge when we discuss buying top prem players cos they have no resale value. Folk whinge when we invest in quality youth players cos they aint top prem players straight away. And in the middle is a group of players who are neither one nor t'other, and these are the kind of players we're releasing and hoping not to see the likes of again.

Its about the balance. Its also about the right players and the prices. Rodrigo on loan then great. But for 3.5M thats a big risk.

We spent 2M on Alonso and I doubt he'll ever play for us again and lets face it he wasn't exactly "great" when he did. But essentially the net result is 2M down the drain. If we spend serious money on Rodrigo there is the same chance we lose it. Which is why the amounts just seem risky. Had he really proven himself last season then fine. But even at the end with all our injuries and poor results he still couldn't really break into the side!

But it's only £2M down the drain because of a non-football related incident that we had no control over. If you'll take off the perma-gloom specs, then you should notice that Alonso was improving - he didn't play all that much, but every time he did, he was a little bit better than the last time. Would it have been £2M down the drain if, this time next season, he'd got another 10 games or more under his belt, and was ready to take over from an ailing, ageing Robinson? No, of course it wouldn't - but it would probably have been about £2/3M saved.

I think he was referring more to the fact that in his opinion Alonso would never have made the grade full stop, not that he wont cos he'll be in the nick.