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In general: be in charge of transfers; dictate tactical policy throughout the club; be on the board; sit high up in the stands; not have to get up for training; not be blamed when the team lose.thebish wrote:i don't really understand what a "director of football" does... what would you envisage Sam would do in the role at Bolton?
It'll be ideal for Sam.
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tell dougie what to dothebish wrote:StaffsTrotter wrote:forgot the main question - BSA back ? in a heartbeat. Would he come - can never say never, but would be a huge surprise if he did. Could imagine him in some kind of director of football role with us though, albeit acrimony with PG would still be a problem.
i don't really understand what a "director of football" does... what would you envisage Sam would do in the role at Bolton?
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so the manager is then a coach?Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:In general: be in charge of transfers; dictate tactical policy throughout the club; be on the board; sit high up in the stands; not have to get up for training; not be blamed when the team lose.thebish wrote:i don't really understand what a "director of football" does... what would you envisage Sam would do in the role at Bolton?
It'll be ideal for Sam.
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unsurprisingly goes back to one of debates we've had before about managers joining a club whereby the style of play, player development etc is all set and the manager comes in to operate it. rather than the new manager/ entire new regime/ philosophy approach that we've hadthebish wrote:so the manager is then a coach?Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:In general: be in charge of transfers; dictate tactical policy throughout the club; be on the board; sit high up in the stands; not have to get up for training; not be blamed when the team lose.thebish wrote:i don't really understand what a "director of football" does... what would you envisage Sam would do in the role at Bolton?
It'll be ideal for Sam.
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I think the money for Megson's spending binge came from a larger TV deal and the Anelka sale. Oh, and a bunch of borrowing.Lord Kangana wrote:It wasn't though was it really? We spent considerable amounts beyond the money that Anelka brought in. We spent the £15m in the January he was sold alone. Then we spent a similar (or more I forget) sum in the summer. We spent a lot during Megson's first few transfer windows, an awful lot.
I think the motivation for Megson's spending binge came after Gartside realized that Allardyce was right all along, and it was no longer possible to sustain top-8 finishes on the cheap. With one failed appointment (Lee) and one unpopular appointment (Megson) under his belt, Gartside suddenly found the money Allardyce wanted all along.
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StaffsTrotter wrote:unsurprisingly goes back to one of debates we've had before about managers joining a club whereby the style of play, player development etc is all set and the manager comes in to operate it. rather than the new manager/ entire new regime/ philosophy approach that we've hadthebish wrote:so the manager is then a coach?Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:In general: be in charge of transfers; dictate tactical policy throughout the club; be on the board; sit high up in the stands; not have to get up for training; not be blamed when the team lose.thebish wrote:i don't really understand what a "director of football" does... what would you envisage Sam would do in the role at Bolton?
It'll be ideal for Sam.
aye - i can (academically) see the merit... where (in the UK) does it actually work?
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Allardyce couldn't get the job because according to PG once before, he wouldn't be good enough to get an interview!
However DSB has it bob on
However DSB has it bob on
Local ties or not, happy memories or no, Allardyce would be an absolute f*cking idiot to come back here. And for all the things he is, good and bad, he is not an absolute f*cking idiot
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Bish: yeah, in a proper DoF system the "manager" should be a head coach. Otherwise the DoF is just a trumped-up manager waiting to replace the guy in "charge:, as Knappsy isnsits he didn't do to Graham Rix at Pompey.
Who does it? It'smost popular on the continent but WBA insist on it: Hodgson was head coach, so's Clarke. They stopped negotiations with Betis boss Pepe Mel because he wanted to bring his own coaches in but they want to keep Downing, Dean Kiely and some other bod I can't recall. Though they bent the rules for Redknapp, Spurs also prefer it.
Who does it? It'smost popular on the continent but WBA insist on it: Hodgson was head coach, so's Clarke. They stopped negotiations with Betis boss Pepe Mel because he wanted to bring his own coaches in but they want to keep Downing, Dean Kiely and some other bod I can't recall. Though they bent the rules for Redknapp, Spurs also prefer it.
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Give Sam the purse-strings. Yep. Winner.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:In general: be in charge of transfers; dictate tactical policy throughout the club; be on the board; sit high up in the stands; not have to get up for training; not be blamed when the team lose.thebish wrote:i don't really understand what a "director of football" does... what would you envisage Sam would do in the role at Bolton?
It'll be ideal for Sam.
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I'd be stunned beyond belief if that's how Eddie Davies viewed it.SmokinFrazier wrote: I think the biggest hurdle is the relationship between Allardyce and Gartisde. If they really do dislike each other and can't work together, it's unlikely it will happen
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I reckon they'd work together if each considered it in his own interests. They are both cynics in my opinion, so matters of pride/honour etc wouldn't come into it. I think there are many other reasons that it won't happen, as previously discussed. The main one being that DF is going nowhere.Bruce Rioja wrote:I'd be stunned beyond belief if that's how Eddie Davies viewed it.SmokinFrazier wrote: I think the biggest hurdle is the relationship between Allardyce and Gartisde. If they really do dislike each other and can't work together, it's unlikely it will happen
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Of course he would come back. He's been just as shite without us as we have without him. Better than Bolton? Yeah right.
Anyway, it's not going to happen. He won't get the sack, the clueless know-nowt chancer won't get the sack and Gartside isn't getting the sack either.
Anyway, it's not going to happen. He won't get the sack, the clueless know-nowt chancer won't get the sack and Gartside isn't getting the sack either.
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Precisely.bobo the clown wrote:Give Sam the purse-strings. Yep. Winner.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:In general: be in charge of transfers; dictate tactical policy throughout the club; be on the board; sit high up in the stands; not have to get up for training; not be blamed when the team lose.thebish wrote:i don't really understand what a "director of football" does... what would you envisage Sam would do in the role at Bolton?
It'll be ideal for Sam.
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If you have a hands-on chairman who's not afraid to make suggestions to the manager (like I imagine Dave Whelan does) that's almost like a director of football. I think BSA's style is like a director of football style anyway. You could bring Sam in and make a younger inexperienced manager as head coach, the only difference from before would be who picks the team. Or, do you want the experienced manager picking the team and the apprentice being a first-team coach?
Isn't Lennie Lawrence the director of football? Does he do anything?
What does LSL do these days? He's upstairs somewhere, I think.
Isn't Lennie Lawrence the director of football? Does he do anything?
What does LSL do these days? He's upstairs somewhere, I think.
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Not at the moment, but if the new building goes up at Lostock his office may be on the first floor.Armchair Wanderer wrote:What does LSL do these days? He's upstairs somewhere, I think.
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LL is assistant manager - the main man's soundboard (different to chief coach).
LSL is head of academy coaching and development.
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Personally I think we should be playing 433 (sounds like that's the system we're playing) every week at home
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We should be on the front foot.
Any formation can be attacking or defensive depending on the players and the mindset.
But the XI we've chosen today is quite a forward-thinking one.
Any formation can be attacking or defensive depending on the players and the mindset.
But the XI we've chosen today is quite a forward-thinking one.
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... & all the better for it.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:We should be on the front foot.
Any formation can be attacking or defensive depending on the players and the mindset.
But the XI we've chosen today is quite a forward-thinking one.
Despite currently a scoreline of 1-1 at least we've taken it to them.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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This and then some.bobo the clown wrote:... & all the better for it.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:We should be on the front foot.
Any formation can be attacking or defensive depending on the players and the mindset.
But the XI we've chosen today is quite a forward-thinking one.
Despite currently a scoreline of 1-1 at least we've taken it to them.
Pfffft.
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