money bags v the trotters

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Re: money bags v the trotters

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:02 pm

I've not even seen the highlights of this one yet but SKD has been talking about Tevez diving today and he's on FiveLive tonight if anyone's interested.
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Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:04 pm

He's never off 5 live these days.Reckon he's setting himself for a future in broadcasting?

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Re: money bags v the trotters

Post by RobbieSavagesLeg » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:04 pm

Quelle heure is he on 5 Live?
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Post by boltonboris » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:12 pm

Prufrock wrote:We'll miss Cahill massively when he goes. He's a top player and you don't just sell top players and not miss them. Ricketts has done well there, but I don't remember us suddenly being AC Milan of the 90s, and we were worse at the back, just not as much as we thought we would be. I still want to see Ricketts Cahill, coz Knight is, frankly, shit, he is just not as shit as he was. As often. Silly money for Cahill I understand the club has to look at, but the idea we wont miss him much or even at all is proper mental IMO. Good on the ball=shit defender for some reason. He's in the same bracket as Tal, Gudni and Bruno that I have seen in a white shirt.
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Re: money bags v the trotters

Post by Eire_Trotter » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:14 pm

ratbert wrote:http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/bolton/blue-sky-sinking

Athers reports, chalk in hand.
Great read.

Can anybody(who was at the match) sum up in two or three lines how Mavies and Moreno got on plz. Much appreciated.

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Re: money bags v the trotters

Post by Prufrock » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:14 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Prufrock wrote:We'll miss Cahill massively when he goes. He's a top player and you don't just sell top players and not miss them. Ricketts has done well there, but I don't remember us suddenly being AC Milan of the 90s, and we were worse at the back, just not as much as we thought we would be. I still want to see Ricketts Cahill, coz Knight is, frankly, shit, he is just not as shit as he was. As often. Silly money for Cahill I understand the club has to look at, but the idea we wont miss him much or even at all is proper mental IMO. Good on the ball=shit defender for some reason. He's in the same bracket as Tal, Gudni and Bruno that I have seen in a white shirt.
Idan Tal? He was a midfielder!
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Re: money bags v the trotters

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:32 pm

When compared to Cohen, he is.
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Post by TKIZ! » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:54 pm

Eire_Trotter wrote:
ratbert wrote:http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/bolton/blue-sky-sinking

Athers reports, chalk in hand.
Great read.

Can anybody(who was at the match) sum up in two or three lines how Mavies and Moreno got on plz. Much appreciated.
Mavies looked good going forward, he doesn't seem as comfortable as Holden for me. Moreno is a great player to pull from the bench when needed. I thought we could have forced the ball down his side more when Kolarev got sent off
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Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:23 pm

First chance I have had to post here since the game, and I am guilty of not reading the rest of this thread. My view:

1.) We were deservedly beaten by a better team. They have spent 300 million on their team, we have spent about 30 million. It showed. Yaya Toure, Tevez, Kompany looked superb players.

2.) We played ok. We did well and had some luck to keep it competitive to the end. Unfortunately, though we got into some good positions, our final ball let us down, and we created few chances. We needed Holden for this game IMO, though Mavies made some good runs. Petrov was poor, and we could do with improving on Robinson and Ricketts at full back if we are to be serious top half contenders. Everyone else played pretty well.

Not a lot else to say. It was nice, and a testament to the feel good factor under OC that we filled the away end. They looked very good, and if Mancini kept a settled team with the majority of that team playing together week in, week out they would challenge for the title.

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Post by Athers » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:23 pm

cheers for the positive words

chalkboard links don't seem to work, here they are

1) Y.Toure causing us a problem
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Re: money bags v the trotters

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:21 pm

Prufrock wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
Prufrock wrote:We'll miss Cahill massively when he goes. He's a top player and you don't just sell top players and not miss them. Ricketts has done well there, but I don't remember us suddenly being AC Milan of the 90s, and we were worse at the back, just not as much as we thought we would be. I still want to see Ricketts Cahill, coz Knight is, frankly, shit, he is just not as shit as he was. As often. Silly money for Cahill I understand the club has to look at, but the idea we wont miss him much or even at all is proper mental IMO. Good on the ball=shit defender for some reason. He's in the same bracket as Tal, Gudni and Bruno that I have seen in a white shirt.
Idan Tal? He was a midfielder!
According to some so is Cahill :crazy:
Didn't Big Sam say that he switched Nolan to a midfield player because he didn't see the point of having a player who could pass the ball so well at the back?Odd thing to say given Nolan wasn't really that great a passer of the ball.
I could see Cahill being excellent in the space behind our midfield and infront of our defence.You know the big empty one that opposing players often find themselves running around in.
But you're right,why waste a player who is quick,can tackle ,is excellent running with the ball, has a great passing range and has a good eye for goal by putting him anywhere other than centre half when the defence is already proving so effective.It's a stupid idea.
He's not a midfield player and would look lost playing midfield in a 442 formation but in a different system playing infront of the defence, knowing there is cover behind him, I think he'd be exceptional.

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Re: money bags v the trotters

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:47 pm

He moved him forward because he couldn't head a ball and wasn't the best tackler. Not really centre half material is it?
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Post by Dujon » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:05 am

Well, I finally got to watch the game on playback. My over all impression is that we played reasonably well, although our passing (short and long) seemed somewhat lacking in accuracy and decision making. At the front third of the field we seemed to be missing in the ideas department - or City had our measure, so I might be being unfair. What really p***** me off was the ease with which the men in pastel blue fell over when a Bolton man came near them. Are they made of rice paper? So many times they fluttered to the ground like wounded butterflies, arms like punctured wings, legs flailing like a caterpillar in retreat and, after a moment of contemplation, popping back to life like an insect from its chrysalis.

We probably deserved to lose, but the sheer arrogance of the City players, exhibited when approaching the referee was, to me, both ridiculous and comical. Perhaps in this case the two terms are synonymous.

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Re: money bags v the trotters

Post by Horza » Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:02 am

Zabs---Vansaaaaant---Kolo----Kolarov
-------GazzaBazza---Nigel
-------------Yaya
--------------------------------
----Silva---Tevez---SuperMario

vs

----------Davo-----Elmo
----Petrov-------------Blue Dragon---
-----------Mavis---------------------
-------------Young Fabrice-------
Robbo----Knight-------Cahill-----Ricketts

Their midfield three choked off the central channel, our wide mids tend to cut inside and were well nullified. Their front three were lightning quick and linking up well which kept our fullbacks from pushing up. Mavis is a clever passer but he doesn't have Holden's engine nor his telepathic understanding with Muamba. This may not have mattered given City were fielding a 4-3-0-3 with two midfield destroyers but we're a much better pressing and passing side with them both in together - they almost add an extra player in midfield and without Stu we were outnumbered and overrun.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:19 am

Prufrock wrote:We'll miss Cahill massively when he goes. He's a top player and you don't just sell top players and not miss them. Ricketts has done well there, but I don't remember us suddenly being AC Milan of the 90s, and we were worse at the back, just not as much as we thought we would be. I still want to see Ricketts Cahill, coz Knight is, frankly, shit, he is just not as shit as he was. As often. Silly money for Cahill I understand the club has to look at, but the idea we wont miss him much or even at all is proper mental IMO. Good on the ball=shit defender for some reason. He's in the same bracket as Tal, Gudni and Bruno that I have seen in a white shirt.
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Post by Lofthouse Lower » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:36 am

Eire_Trotter wrote:
ratbert wrote:http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/bolton/blue-sky-sinking

Athers reports, chalk in hand.
Great read.

Can anybody(who was at the match) sum up in two or three lines how Mavies and Moreno got on plz. Much appreciated.
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Post by Eire_Trotter » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:38 pm

TKIZ! wrote:
Eire_Trotter wrote:
ratbert wrote:http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/bolton/blue-sky-sinking

Athers reports, chalk in hand.
Great read.

Can anybody(who was at the match) sum up in two or three lines how Mavies and Moreno got on plz. Much appreciated.
Mavies looked good going forward, he doesn't seem as comfortable as Holden for me. Moreno is a great player to pull from the bench when needed. I thought we could have forced the ball down his side more when Kolarev got sent off
Thank you.

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Post by 2399 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:05 am

I had an hour spare on Sunday do I watched the second half on tape ; I'm going to keep it even though we lost.

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