Wanderers v The Delusional (Mackems)

[CAPSLOCK]

Coyle said Muamba was out of the squad cos he wasn't good enough to be in it (Radio Manc, post Wigan)

Him and Robbie Blake - fook me, Robbie Blake mentioned in the same breath

And Muamba played (well) at Arsenal, til we went down to 10 men and he took him off - aye, a man down so take off you fittest player, best tackler

[Sponge]

Coyle said Muamba was out of the squad cos he wasn't good enough to be in it (Radio Manc, post Wigan)

Him and Robbie Blake - fook me, Robbie Blake mentioned in the same breath

And Muamba played (well) at Arsenal, til we went down to 10 men and he took him off - aye, a man down so take off you fittest player, best tackler

Bizarre. I'm curious as to the mood in the dressing room. Doubt it's all as rosy as Coyle's "smile-on-the-face" enthusiam would imply.

[wanderers_on_tour]

Coyle said Muamba was out of the squad cos he wasn't good enough to be in it (Radio Manc, post Wigan)

Him and Robbie Blake - fook me, Robbie Blake mentioned in the same breath

And Muamba played (well) at Arsenal, til we went down to 10 men and he took him off - aye, a man down so take off you fittest player, best tackler

Ahh reeet, well yerr I don't think anyone agrees too much with that. With Holden out I reckon he's the best of the bunch from a balance perspective.

[Sponge]

He's not enough of a pretty-boy for Coyle. Fact is, we are never gonna out play the bigger-spending clubs (which is almost everyone in the league) at their own game (nice passing football, dinky one-twos, what have you). Muamba is exactly the sort of player we need right now: some one who will get stuck in, get in the opponents faces, hassle and harry. Ngog was the only player doing that yesterday, and he's a friggin' striker. It's like playing without midfield at the moment.

[mrplow]

Coyle said Muamba was out of the squad cos he wasn't good enough to be in it (Radio Manc, post Wigan)

That's shocking if it's true. I assumed he was injured. I know he's not everyone's favourite, but I'd play him in front of NRC or Pratley.

[Gail Platz]

I'm not buying this "Coyle likes his hairy fairy types". If he did, why would he continue to pick Kevin Davies and Darren Pratley, and leave Tuncay on the bench? Why would he select Wheater who looks like he's going to lamp someone in every game he plays? People are just talking bollocks about the appearance of some players when it isn't the wingers who are causing the problems for us... it's the attack, centre of midfield and left back.

[as]

Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit.

We were shit
We are shit
Our players are shit
Our manager is a shit
Our retail park stadium is shit
The North Stand is shit
The stupid drummers are shit
The pints are shit
Scotts bar is shit
Harvesters is shit
Playing countless home games without ever looking like winning one is shit
Premier League football is shit
Match Of The Day is shit
Being a Bolton fan is shit

Reet, where's that doob I rolled earlier......

[thebish]

Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit.

We were shit
We are shit
Our players are shit
Our manager is a shit
Our retail park stadium is shit
The North Stand is shit
The stupid drummers are shit
The pints are shit
Scotts bar is shit
Harvesters is shit
Playing countless home games without ever looking like winning one is shit
Premier League football is shit
Match Of The Day is shit
Being a Bolton fan is shit

100% what I feel

[JWH]

Hi again,
Kevin Davies was horrible, in my opinion. I give credit where it's due no matter who the player and club but he seemed more intent on elbowing colback in the back than he did in trying to get Bolton into the game. Really embarrassing performance from him as far as I could see.

And of course your defenders weren't knocking lumps out of him and everybody else in a white shirt then?

To be honest, I don't think they were, no. Didn't really have to, as another poster has said. And I don;t mind a bit of jostling, it's a physical game. It's when a player contributes literally nothing else to an entire match that I think it's a bit embarrassing and awful to watch, and that's exactly what 'Super' Kevin Davies did yesterday. Had no interest in playing football, just spent his time belting away and harrassing a lad almost half his age who was having a very good game in midfield.

[JWH]

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[Gail Platz]

Hi again,
Kevin Davies was horrible, in my opinion. I give credit where it's due no matter who the player and club but he seemed more intent on elbowing colback in the back than he did in trying to get Bolton into the game. Really embarrassing performance from him as far as I could see.

And of course your defenders weren't knocking lumps out of him and everybody else in a white shirt then?

To be honest, I don't think they were, no. Didn't really have to, as another poster has said. And I don;t mind a bit of jostling, it's a physical game. It's when a player contributes literally nothing else to an entire match that I think it's a bit embarrassing and awful to watch, and that's exactly what 'Super' Kevin Davies did yesterday. Had no interest in playing football, just spent his time belting away and harrassing a lad almost half his age who was having a very good game in midfield.

He's been doing jack shit for three years, I'm just surprised it's taken the rest of the Bolton fans this long to realise he brings nothing to the team. We've in effect been playing with 10 men for some while now.

[P.O.S.]

Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit.

We were shit
We are shit
Our players are shit
Our manager is a shit
Our retail park stadium is shit
The North Stand is shit
The stupid drummers are shit
The pints are shit
Scotts bar is shit
Harvesters is shit
Playing countless home games without ever looking like winning one is shit
Premier League football is shit
Match Of The Day is shit
Being a Bolton fan is shit

Reet, where's that doob I rolled earlier......

Bang on.

"dum dum dum dum dum... CHEAT!" It's absolutely tin pot bollocks.

[William the White]

"dum dum dum dum dum... CHEAT!" It's absolutely tin pot bollocks.

God, yeah - the most banal chant ever...

[Hoboh]

"dum dum dum dum dum... CHEAT!" It's absolutely tin pot bollocks.

God, yeah - the most banal chant ever...

Agreed "dum dum dum dum dum... CRAP!" Would be a far more relevant chant!

[Horza]

Glad I got a decent night's sleep instead.

-------NRC----Muamba
Kakuta------Tuncay-----Petrov
-----------N'Gog

play it, Owen.

Sorry for picking on you pal but why has this formation almost become the general consensus both at the Bok and on this board?

Mainly because it's a pretty good formation. It's flexible and gives numbers in midfield - somewhere we're getting utterly smashed because we don't have the insane workrate from Holden and Muamba that made last season's 4-4-2 viable. Since his injury we've been a shadow of a team and it's because the manager won't adjust to face circumstances.

NRC and Muamba in the defensive midfield i can understand, especially away from home. However since Liverpool away, where the lad came off after half an hour, Muamba has been out of the first team plans which many believe may be due to personal reasons rather than on pitch. So without Muamba the 4-2-3-1 formation really falls on its feet, unless Sean Davis wants to show his face sometime soon.

Coyle needs to bring him back then. He's a crucial cog in our midfield engine.

Anyway Muamba aside why does everyone suddenly think Gael Kakuta is the saviour? He's not Daniel Sturridge and looks more of the Rodrigo/Weiss (just in for bodies/super sub potential) than anything else. Sturridge had been on the verge of the first team for quite a while (bit like that McEachran) and had already scored on his champions league debut before joining us. Personally i'd stick with Eagles, bit inconsistant as things stand but as Wigan away showed last week could be a worthy stand in for Chung Yong given a bit more attacking movement up front and less static bodies to whip in the cross for.

Yeah, fair enough, just stuck him in there for novelty.

Again i'm happy with Tuncay, a PROVEN premier league player. Although I think Pratley has been really growing in stature. His performance yesterday wasn't as bad as everyone seems to think, put himself around brilliantly from back to front and was unlucky not to grab a goal or two. Only problem if Super Kev also wants to play the 'attacker who'd rather do everything else' role than we can't carry both without some serious balance issues. I also like the way Ngog/Tuncay had been linking up in cup matches/reserves.

You've hit the nail on the head there: Pratley as an attacking option is fine but we aren't getting the defensive work from Davies to complement it.

I've not seen huge amounts of either but Ngog and Tuncay just look like a well matched pair of players, the former as a mobile lone forward with the second as support reads really well on paper and I'm baffled that it hasn't been given a go in a league game.

[Prufrock]

I'm throwing this one out there, Tuncay isn't playing, coz he's shit.

Anyway, Saturday....piss.

Need a new left hand side, Petrov showed quite how fecking useless he is when he comes up against a competent RB who doesn't let him chuck in cross after cross. What the fook he was trying to do just before he came off I while never know.

Robinson gets worse, somehow, every week. At one point a flying drop kick in the centre circle that got nowhere near the ball. Shittu-esque.

Wheater and Cahill were top banana. Did very well under intense pressure caused by the complete lack of competent attacking. Boyata solid.

Reo-Coker, excellent all season, was shit, Pratley worked hard, but just is not good enough. I was wrong, he isn't black Kevin Nolan, Nolan can finish. Muamba has a better touch than him. Clever runs not enough at this level.

Eagles, well, they say God loves a trier, and if that is true, then the 'rumours' about his private life must be true, coz God doesn't love our Chris. Every promising opportunity ruined by him just twatting it into row Z. Even Petrov looked embarrassed at some of the shots he took on. Kev needs dropping, so slow, laboured, and easy to defend against.

Riccy, bless him, went back to his touch of ten years ago, and what the fook he took that freekick for I don't know, can't kick it far enough! I actually though Kakuta did OK, positive, tried to make things happen. Not on the same wavelength yet, but he looked worth a go. Inverted wingers ina 4-4-2 is shit.

N'Gog, was all right, but same as always, looks promising without even looking like actually scoring.

Jussi

Boyata-Cahill-Wheater-Gardner

Eagles-Reo-Coker-Muamba-Kakuta

N'Gog-Klasnic

With Ricketts for Gardner, Lee for Kakuta, and Holden for Fab preferably before we go down.

[CAPSLOCK]

I'm throwing this one out there, Tuncay isn't playing, coz he's shit.

Would we not have been better reaching that conclusion 2 months ago?

[thebish]

I'm throwing this one out there, Tuncay isn't playing, coz he's shit.

I don't know how much more evidence Coyle has of that NOW than he did before he was so persuasive as to inspire Tuncay to take a pay cut to join us.... how many minutes of first team action has Tuncay had so far?

[boltonboris]

My in depth analysis.

We were feckin' shite

[Prufrock]

I don't think Coyle really wanted Tuncay. Was one that turned up when we still had two strikers and two wingers so thought fook it better than nowt.