Three in a row? Pozzotively. No sting in this tale!

[Worthy4England]

Bit like scoring an interception at rugby. The presence of mind to see there's a potential cock up and convert it into something useful, is not luck. The luck, is that they make the mistake. The skill is reacting to it.

[thebish]

Good result yesterday. Obviously it was a lucky goal for us but it's good to keep another clean sheet, especially against a good attacking side like Watford.

it was an unusual goal - but skillfully done and admirable persistence and sharpness - which is what you want in a striker, no?

[TANGODANCER]

Obviously it was a lucky goal for us

Yeah. No credit to Beckford whatsoever. Yeah. I'll leave it there.

Beckford did nothing to force the mistake, so why would he deserve credit? Unless we're praising strikers for being able to score from a yard out when the keeper is incapable of making a save, he did nothing to deserve praise. Even a goal like Giroud's yesterday was lucky, although he, unlike Beckford, actually forced the error.

Any time a player makes such a massive blunder, the team that capitalises on it is lucky. That's not debatable.

So did I see it wrong? Beckford and the keeper both went in on a cross. Keeper didn't catch it cleanly and fumbled it. From there, how many strkers would be quick enough to get there first and bang it in the net? I can think of Klasnic maybe....Beckford was, and did, and gained us three points. No credit to him for that from one of our own fans? If he'd skied it over the bar you'd have lambasted him for a miss. He scores, yet deserves no credit? All the players and most of the fans who were in ecstasy at us scoring would think he deserved praise....but you don't?

[wigan white]

Beckford lurked around the spot anticipating if the keeper made a mistake and when he did, Beckford has the nous to stick it in the net. If that'd been Ngog or, heaven forbid, SKD, they'd have been already retreating back towards their own half. The positioning and anticpiation/reading of the situation is a skill in itself, so credits due to Beckford for being there.

[Worthy4England]

Hand grenade thrown. Room departed. Job done.

[malcd1]

Bit of skill from Moritz.

[bobo the clown]

Lucky.

[SmokinFrazier]

Obviously it was a lucky goal for us

Yeah. No credit to Beckford whatsoever. Yeah. I'll leave it there.

Beckford did nothing to force the mistake, so why would he deserve credit? Unless we're praising strikers for being able to score from a yard out when the keeper is incapable of making a save, he did nothing to deserve praise. Even a goal like Giroud's yesterday was lucky, although he, unlike Beckford, actually forced the error.

Any time a player makes such a massive blunder, the team that capitalises on it is lucky. That's not debatable.

No, he didn't do anything to force the mistake, he was alert enough to pick up on it though. Clearly that hasn't registered with you.

By the way - what have you to say about our recent run of form?

Beckford's reaction was fine but he did nothing to force the error, so our goal was lucky. Had Almunia not messed up, we wouldn't have scored. His mistake was the sole reason Beckford got the chance, nothing Beckford did as an individual or we did as a team.

Our form is good.

[Worthy4England]

Obviously it was a lucky goal for us

Yeah. No credit to Beckford whatsoever. Yeah. I'll leave it there.

Beckford did nothing to force the mistake, so why would he deserve credit? Unless we're praising strikers for being able to score from a yard out when the keeper is incapable of making a save, he did nothing to deserve praise. Even a goal like Giroud's yesterday was lucky, although he, unlike Beckford, actually forced the error.

Any time a player makes such a massive blunder, the team that capitalises on it is lucky. That's not debatable.

No, he didn't do anything to force the mistake, he was alert enough to pick up on it though. Clearly that hasn't registered with you.

By the way - what have you to say about our recent run of form?

Beckford's reaction was fine but he did nothing to force the error, so our goal was lucky. Had Almunia not messed up, we wouldn't have scored. His mistake was the sole reason Beckford got the chance, nothing Beckford did as an individual or we did as a team.

Our form is good.

So the pressure Beckford put him under on the earlier challenge had nowt to do with it? Right oh, then.

[SmokinFrazier]

Obviously it was a lucky goal for us

Yeah. No credit to Beckford whatsoever. Yeah. I'll leave it there.

Beckford did nothing to force the mistake, so why would he deserve credit? Unless we're praising strikers for being able to score from a yard out when the keeper is incapable of making a save, he did nothing to deserve praise. Even a goal like Giroud's yesterday was lucky, although he, unlike Beckford, actually forced the error.

Any time a player makes such a massive blunder, the team that capitalises on it is lucky. That's not debatable.

So did I see it wrong? Beckford and the keeper both went in on a cross. Keeper didn't catch it cleanly and fumbled it. From there, how many strkers would be quick enough to get there first and bang it in the net? I can think of Klasnic maybe....Beckford was, and did, and gained us three points. No credit to him for that from one of our own fans? If he'd skied it over the bar you'd have lambasted him for a miss. He scores, yet deserves no credit? All the players and most of the fans who were in ecstasy at us scoring would think he deserved praise....but you don't?

I give us credit for the win but why would I say anything more about the goal? It was a lucky goal, so I said it was. When Bogdan let the ball go through his hands, they were lucky to score that against us because it was a routine save for Bogdan and he messed up. I don't credit them for hitting a shot straight at Bogdan, I'd say they were lucky because their goal came from his mistake.

It's not a criticism either. Beckford had a chance and took it, so fair play to him. However, I'm not wrong to point out why he got that chance. People can bury their heads in the sand to try and put a gloss on it if they want to, but we all know what happened. I'm sure if we'd conceded that goal, there wouldn't be a shortage of people saying how we were "unlucky".

[bobo the clown]

You know Joe, every now and again you should just ease off. Your valid criticisms may then carry a bit of weight.

[clapton is god]

Beckford was right place right time. Strikers skill. Thats all that needs to be said.

[Andy Waller]

He should have really passed it back to Almunia and said "It's ok pal, have the ball back because I don't like scoring lucky goals."

[malcd1]

It had an element of luck in it but it does not make it a lucky goal.

A goalkeeper throwing the ball out, it slipping out his hand and ending up in the net is a lucky goal. This one wasn't. It was a goal scored by a striker in form who was by the quickest person to react to a mistake by the keeper.

[jonnycooper]

How;s about we settle on;(Almunia was unfortunate)to make a mistake when a very canny footballer type was lurking??

[thebish]

People can bury their heads in the sand to try and put a gloss on it if they want to,

ahhh - the old "bury your heads in the sand" ruse...

that expression usually means that we are consciously ignoring some huge impending doom and deliberately not looking - pretending that everything is OK...

what huge impending doom are "people" ignoring? would it be 3 wins in a row - a clean sheet - and excellent league form? or is there something us stupids haven't seen that you have?

the goal - it won't be the most spectacular goal beckford ever scores - but to claim he did nothing to earn it or make it happen is simply bollox... he ANTICIPATED an error, he WAS QUICK enough to capitalise, he WAS PERSISTENT, and he had earlier implanted in the goalie's mind the idea that he might be (fairly) properly challenged for a ball coming into the box - which led to some hesitation... also - he had the calm instinctive technique to actually put it in the net and not blaze it over the bar or crash it wildly off a defender's leg.... so I'd say Beckford did PLENTY enough to be given some credit.

[LeverEnd]

Of course he did. Plus someone crossed the ball because we were ATTACKING! If no-one puts the ball in the box there is no chance of anyone gifting us anything.
Of course it was lucky that he dropped it but teams get more lucky breaks like that if they are working hard and pressuring.

[LeverEnd]

Looks like Dougie is 'doing a Capslock' with this one. Personally I'd wait til I was a little higher than 15th before telling everyone how they had no right to be unhappy with our worst start for 100+ years.

I'm as pleased as anyone with the improved form and hope it continues all the way to the playoffs, but this sticks in the craw a little bit. If he wins the playoffs I'll be more than happy to admit I was wrong about him. At 15th I think I'll wait and see.

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[CAPSLOCK]

Not sure what 'doing a Capslock' is

I'm thinking that 'doing a Lever End' is misrepresenting what the manager has said

Nowhere in that piece does he claim to have proved anybody wrong nor does he say folk can't be unhappy

He does suggest that folk wanting him sacked after 8-10 games of the season are know nowt cocks

I find it hard to disagree

[Prufrock]

It's not going to win him the ballon d'or, but no credit to Beckford at all?! LOOOOL.

Spose Joe reckons Ibrahimovic was purely lucky with that overhead 4th against England. Mistake from the keeper you see.