Bedsheets, Pitchforks and colours nailed etc.

[jonnycooper]

It,ll cost us £650k to remove Lennon and we haven't got a pot to piss in! So he's here for the foreseeable at the very least..Get behind him and keep the faith as there is no alternative at the Mo! COYFWM

[Hoboh]

It,ll cost us £650k to remove Lennon and we haven't got a pot to piss in! So he's here for the foreseeable at the very least..Get behind him and keep the faith as there is no alternative at the Mo! COYFWM

Get behind him my ass, he's had his chance and fecked up and with the current crisis he ain't going to get any better.
We are however, as you say, stuck with him!

[Bruce Rioja]

Get behind him my ass

Yeah - let's get on his case instead. That'll learn him!

[Hoboh]

Get behind him my ass

Yeah - let's get on his case instead. That'll learn him!

By 'eck you must be bitter today!
I'm not 'on his case' I'm saying he's incompetent and not up to the job, we are now at the stage where the supporter base is declining, the team is almost at rock bottom, the owner has had enough, the chairman is ill, the players are, in the main, conference level (at least in their heads) and it's always raining and cold.
Other than that lets go and cheer him on.
Lennon nor none of this wankers on the pitch are BWFC, the club I love and worry may not be around much longer other than an asset stripped shell!

[Bruce Rioja]

By 'eck you must be bitter today!

Not at all, Fella. I don't like our situation anymore than anybody else, but I do accept that we are where we are just now and I feel that, as a supporter, it's my role to support where I can.

If I pissed and moaned and demanded a return to the halcyon days as some sort of birthright then I'd simply be a follower, at best, and probably a bitter one at that.

[norm the jedi]

By 'eck you must be bitter today!

Not at all, Fella. I don't like our situation anymore than anybody else, but I do accept that we are where we are just now and I feel that, as a supporter, it's my role to support where I can.

If I pissed and moaned and demanded a return to the halcyon days as some sort of birthright then I'd simply be a follower, at best, and probably a bitter one at that.

Aye nowt to do but wait for nature and business to take its course and then pick up the bits and carry on.. wherever we are.

apprapo of nowt most teams on the edge of winding up and admin seem to have been at or near the bottom of their respective leagues they must all have had shite managers eh? nowt to do with not having a photocopy of a pot to piss in?

[BWFC_Insane]

By 'eck you must be bitter today!

Not at all, Fella. I don't like our situation anymore than anybody else, but I do accept that we are where we are just now and I feel that, as a supporter, it's my role to support where I can.

If I pissed and moaned and demanded a return to the halcyon days as some sort of birthright then I'd simply be a follower, at best, and probably a bitter one at that.

Agreed. Though there isn't anything wrong with pointing out how shit Lennon has been up to now.

No point calling for his head because until we get new owners that won't happen. I strongly suspect if we ever have new ownership with any ambition that Lennon will be binned off very quickly.

[Hoboh]

By 'eck you must be bitter today!

Not at all, Fella. I don't like our situation anymore than anybody else, but I do accept that we are where we are just now and I feel that, as a supporter, it's my role to support where I can.

If I pissed and moaned and demanded a return to the halcyon days as some sort of birthright then I'd simply be a follower, at best, and probably a bitter one at that.

I'd, due to circumstances label myself more as a 'follower' these days, bitter? Not really I just don't think, like probably quite a few others did, Lennon is the man for us I originally thought he would be.
Right now I know we have to suck it and see circumstances dictate that, my biggest fear is from what small pieces of info out there with regard to one of the bids for the club is the football angle will be a mere sideshow to a multi platform entertainment business, match days will be a sideshow and certainly not top of the tree for the new owners, I would have hoped Eddie Davies could have capitalised on that more because at least he put his money where his mouth is and could be trusted with the interests of the football club.

[LeverEnd]

Which bid is that?

[SmokinFrazier]

I still support Lennon and I see no reason not to. There's too much happening at Bolton to expect anything better than what we're getting and whilst the dreadful results are clear to see, the underlining problems at the club bear the greatest responsibility for that. Every time clubs go through financial difficulty, they start to play worse and worse, and that's what we're seeing now. I think we've struggled because our team was scrambled together due to financial restrictions and now that our future is in doubt, I don't the players are reacting well but how can you expect differently when their efforts might be rewarded with a 12 point deduction and being shipped out of the club in January?

If there weren't these extenuating circumstances at Bolton, I'd want Lennon gone, without question. The fact is though, the difficulties we've got were always going to affect results on the pitch and you can't fairly judge a manager during a period of massive uncertainty like this.

[Hoboh]

Which bid is that?

Sitter misser fronted one

[LeverEnd]

Which bid is that?

Sitter misser fronted one

Ha! Where did you read this? Info seems thin on the ground where his lot are concerned. I never thought that was on the cards and still don't, best hope is that it flushes out some more potentials.
I've got to say that this is going just as I thought.
As for the discussion of who to believe out of Nixon/Iles/Birch, two of them are trying to find out the truth, and one is making statements according to his own and ED's agenda, with informing fans very low on the list. Iles has the club's and the fans' best interests at heart, Nixon's a tabloid hack looking for a sensationalist angle. Iles all day for me, don't understand why he gets the grief he does. Classic case of shooting the messenger.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Every time clubs go through financial difficulty, they start to play worse and worse, and that's what we're seeing now.

Not quite accurate that is it?
Take for example the exploits of one Mr Trevor Birch circa 2002 when Chelsea had a debt burden exceeding £80 million pounds
Not only did Chelsea not start to play worse and worse (as evidenced by the comparison table below ▼) but he (Birch) put together a little package worth £140 million spondulicks and introduced a certain Mr Abramovich into the equation.

[BWFC_Insane]

Which bid is that?

Sitter misser fronted one

Ha! Where did you read this? Info seems thin on the ground where his lot are concerned. I never thought that was on the cards and still don't, best hope is that it flushes out some more potentials.
I've got to say that this is going just as I thought.
As for the discussion of who to believe out of Nixon/Iles/Birch, two of them are trying to find out the truth, and one is making statements according to his own and ED's agenda, with informing fans very low on the list. Iles has the club's and the fans' best interests at heart, Nixon's a tabloid hack looking for a sensationalist angle. Iles all day for me, don't understand why he gets the grief he does. Classic case of shooting the messenger.

Nixon and Iles broadly tend to say the same things. Just in different ways.

[thebish]

Which bid is that?

Sitter misser fronted one

Ha! Where did you read this? Info seems thin on the ground where his lot are concerned. I never thought that was on the cards and still don't, best hope is that it flushes out some more potentials.
I've got to say that this is going just as I thought.
As for the discussion of who to believe out of Nixon/Iles/Birch, two of them are trying to find out the truth, and one is making statements according to his own and ED's agenda, with informing fans very low on the list. Iles has the club's and the fans' best interests at heart, Nixon's a tabloid hack looking for a sensationalist angle. Iles all day for me, don't understand why he gets the grief he does. Classic case of shooting the messenger.

Nixon and BWFC_InsaneIles broadly tend to say the same things. Just in differentexactly the same ways.

fixed that for you..

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Every time clubs go through financial difficulty, they start to play worse and worse, and that's what we're seeing now.

Not always. Northampton Town are joint top. Then there's the tale of when Middlesbrough were so skint that the Official Receiver locked the Ayresome Park gates and sacked Bruce Rioch and all the players. They went up that season, and the season after.

Finances don't help, obviously, but let's not pretend that's the only reason we're suffering. The players Lennon brought in have largely failed. Some aren't even in the squad any more, being replaced by others playing out of position. The malaise around the club is now focused on the wait-and-see over the takeover but it started much earlier: we've been losing pretty much all year, or at least since the end of Lennon's first window when he started fannying around with a back three.

[norm the jedi]

Every time clubs go through financial difficulty, they start to play worse and worse, and that's what we're seeing now.

Not always. Northampton Town are joint top. Then there's the tale of when Middlesbrough were so skint that the Official Receiver locked the Ayresome Park gates and sacked Bruce Rioch and all the players. They went up that season, and the season after.

Finances don't help, obviously, but let's not pretend that's the only reason we're suffering. The players Lennon brought in have largely failed. Some aren't even in the squad any more, being replaced by others playing out of position. The malaise around the club is now focused on the wait-and-see over the takeover but it started much earlier: we've been losing pretty much all year, or at least since the end of Lennon's first window when he started fannying around with a back three.

But did Lennon assemble his squad on the basis of making it better or making it cheaper?
And the next one that says 'more for less' can have Teresa Mays Autobiography in the chops..
I really think it is hard and not a little unfair to judge Lennon based on the cluster feck he has found himself in.
Fair play I imagine he had some incling when he came but suspect even he's surprised how much shite we're in off the pitch never mind on it.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

But did Lennon assemble his squad on the basis of making it better or making it cheaper?

Like getting two right-backs he now doesn't use? Arguably neither.

[norm the jedi]

But did Lennon assemble his squad on the basis of making it better or making it cheaper?

Like getting two right-backs he now doesn't use? Arguably neither.

Which, with respect, is the one copper bottomed example. Which is now taken to apparently be the landing light through the fog to highlight his obvious ineptitude.
Not going to try and excuse it no idea what motivated it or what's gone on? But there's clearly more to it than a drunken buy it now on football managers ebay.

However it seems to me as someone who doesn't take that much notice, that the better quality he has brought in seems mostly to have been borrowed and has not stopped here. Leaving, 'what he has assembled'...which is the car boot end of the journeyman bargain bucket mixed with a blend of geriatrics, out of contract elsewhere, who can barely break into a trot and yooofs who can't apparently withstand the rigours of 2 games a week in a mans league.

[BWFC_Insane]

But did Lennon assemble his squad on the basis of making it better or making it cheaper?

Like getting two right-backs he now doesn't use? Arguably neither.

Which, with respect, is the one copper bottomed example. Which is now taken to apparently be the landing light through the fog to highlight his obvious ineptitude.
Not going to try and excuse it no idea what motivated it or what's gone on? But there's clearly more to it than a drunken buy it now on football managers ebay.

However it seems to me as someone who doesn't take that much notice, that the better quality he has brought in seems mostly to have been borrowed and has not stopped here. Leaving, 'what he has assembled'...which is the car boot end of the journeyman bargain bucket mixed with a blend of geriatrics, out of contract elsewhere, who can barely break into a trot and yooofs who can't apparently withstand the rigours of 2 games a week in a mans league.

Our wage bill is £16M.

Which I am willing I bet puts us halfway up the table.

It isn't like we are (or have been) absolute paupers in that regard. Lennon has signed a lot of players and most can't even get in his side.

That speaks for itself.