Far from the Madding Crowd. Away at Shrewsbury, Sat 15th Feb,3-0'clock

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Re: Far from the Madding Crowd. Away at Shrewsbury, Sat 15th Feb,3-0'clock

Post by DJBlu » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:39 pm

Have a watch of Toal's goal and listen to Derek Clarke go from fitting tribute to feck that in 2 seconds.

"There's a minutes applause for a Shrewsbury fan who sadly passed away but that's a wonderful strike"

Shouldn't laugh but the timing of things in football are sometimes very cruel.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:06 pm

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Have a watch of Toal's goal and listen to Derek Clarke go from fitting tribute to feck that in 2 seconds.

"There's a minutes applause for a Shrewsbury fan who sadly passed away but that's a wonderful strike"

Shouldn't laugh but the timing of things in football are sometimes very cruel.
Dave Higson could get away with describing a mis hit shot that the keeper dropped and subsequently deflected it off his own defender’s thigh onto the inside of post and in as ‘truly truly magical’ but grates a bit when a pro does similar.

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Post by boltonboris » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:31 am

It was a very good second half. We played with more intensity, more attacking intent and controlled the midfield, which was woefully short of the required standard in the first half

How refreshing to have a manager than can and will adapt to the pattern of a game, or the oppositions shape and make big changes.

The halftime sub was obviously enforced, but he could have slotted Forino in there, but he saw as an opportunity to get more width and pace in the team higher up and that changed the direction of the game.

The less said about one or 2 players, the better, so I'll just focus on the positives now. Tutu, Schon, Sheehan all very lively in the second half and very happy for McAtee who looked the player we thought we'd signed. Also kudos to Collins for the run that created the space for McAtee's 1st goal. The 2 of them look like they could develop something
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Post by boltonboris » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:42 am

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Schumacher told McAtee, Collins and Randall they’d been poor at half time and that two would be taken off during the second half. The old mind games seem to have worked on McAtee.

I like stuff like this. Very Bruce Rioch that. Go earn your shirt.
Presumably Randall just shrugged his shoulders and looked forward to wearing a warm coat
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:38 am

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The halftime sub was obviously enforced, but he could have slotted Forino in there, but he saw as an opportunity to get more width and pace in the team higher up and that changed the direction of the game.
He did say postmatch (source: audio on Iles' Last Word popdcast) that he was considering bringing on JOT for Murphy. And that Forino was on the bench because he knew that "Gaz" would start lobbing half the kitchen at us if losing. That, my friends, is wise management.

On a related note: While I'm very happy that we've overcome our crippling lack of any fight and character whatsoever to come from behind twice in a week, it has been against two sides in the relegation zone and Schumacher's only two games against top-half sides have ended 0-1. The difference in our opponents' levels was made stark in their attacking substitutions this week: Wrexham brought on Jay Rodriguez and £2m Sam Smith; "Gaz" threw on Toto fkn Nsiala and apparently just told him to run into people. Forino laughed at it.

Hopefully this weekend we see Schuey's first win against rivals - hopefully the first of many. We're learning about him, and more importantly he's learning about us.

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Post by Spartan2 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:23 pm

This is something that grinds my gears, not you specifically DSB. Before the game the consensus is how much of a tough game Shrewsbury will be, how they've been rejuvenated under their new manger, beaten Birmingham, not lost in god knows, you'd be forgiven for thinking they're a good team. Now we've beaten 'em they're right back to relegation fodder, but heaven help you if you suggested that pre-match. It's some crazy football fan psychology, if the next team had lost ten in a row people would be saying how dangerous they are, how typical Bolton it would be to break their poor run. It's like fans are trying to reverse psychology the universe.

I'm not seriously aggrieved or anything, just think it's silly/funny.

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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:09 pm

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Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:23 pm
This is something that grinds my gears, not you specifically DSB. Before the game the consensus is how much of a tough game Shrewsbury will be, how they've been rejuvenated under their new manger, beaten Birmingham, not lost in god knows, you'd be forgiven for thinking they're a good team. Now we've beaten 'em they're right back to relegation fodder, but heaven help you if you suggested that pre-match. It's some crazy football fan psychology, if the next team had lost ten in a row people would be saying how dangerous they are, how typical Bolton it would be to break their poor run. It's like fans are trying to reverse psychology the universe.

I'm not seriously aggrieved or anything, just think it's silly/funny.
Yeah - there are elements of overcaution - and I can understand that more when there's been some "iffy" results down the league campaign. Even taking that into account, we should have some reasonable expectations when you're Bolton in L1 with our squad where we should be saying "we should beat these, they're in the relegation zone" on most occasions. Doesn't mean we always shall...but when you play sport at any level, there are some teams you think "we should beat them" not over-confidently, you still have to show up and perform...

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:10 pm

Spartan2 wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:23 pm
This is something that grinds my gears, not you specifically DSB. Before the game the consensus is how much of a tough game Shrewsbury will be, how they've been rejuvenated under their new manger, beaten Birmingham, not lost in god knows, you'd be forgiven for thinking they're a good team. Now we've beaten 'em they're right back to relegation fodder, but heaven help you if you suggested that pre-match. It's some crazy football fan psychology, if the next team had lost ten in a row people would be saying how dangerous they are, how typical Bolton it would be to break their poor run. It's like fans are trying to reverse psychology the universe.

I'm not seriously aggrieved or anything, just think it's silly/funny.
Oh sure, it happens and that makes me laugh too. And it was a tough game - as was Crawley. But we're at the factfinding stage of the new relationship and the next three will tell us a whole lot more about what Schuey might or could do.

As I say - Wrexham needed subs, they brought on two very good ones; Shrewsbury, oh dear. Still a game we might have lost in previous iterations, and still a game I'm glad we've won. We didn't beat them at home....

(Related irk - that confirmation bias favourite "Old boys always score against us." No they don't, you just remember when they do. On Saturday, McAtee scored two for us against his first team...)

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:49 pm

Good away day, that. Our fans were piss poor in the build up and during the first half. It wasn't just a case of not being given anything to cheer for, people were just off for some reason. However, when it's like that the players have to lift the crowd and in the second half they did that - especially Macca.

By the end it was fantastic. Shame about conceding late on, but after we equalised that result was never in doubt.

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Post by Armchair Wanderer » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:07 am

Macca was obviously up for it against his old club. Did I imagine the stepovers?

The goals that are being conceded all seem to be from mistakes. You could say that every goal is from a mistake, but the mistakes I'm seeing are trainable, I think. Or, the captain, whoever that is, needs to shout a bit more when someone is in the wrong position.
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Post by nicholaldo » Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:55 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:21 pm
Schumacher told McAtee, Collins and Randall they’d been poor at half time and that two would be taken off during the second half. The old mind games seem to have worked on McAtee.

I like stuff like this. Very Bruce Rioch that. Go earn your shirt.

Where's this from?

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Re: Far from the Madding Crowd. Away at Shrewsbury, Sat 15th Feb,3-0'clock

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:06 pm

nicholaldo wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:55 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:21 pm
Schumacher told McAtee, Collins and Randall they’d been poor at half time and that two would be taken off during the second half. The old mind games seem to have worked on McAtee.

I like stuff like this. Very Bruce Rioch that. Go earn your shirt.

Where's this from?
One of the radio interviews I think it was. Can’t remember which. Was also in the BN write up with Evatt’s quotes.

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