Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread
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Why would I need to? Dougie (our current manager for nearly 2 years now) has made a comment on money has been wasted. I thought that we'd entered into the brave new world where our present manager had enough backbone to admit his own mistakes. Perhaps I was wrong on that?BWFC_Insane wrote:Why did you back a manager who demonstrably wasted more than ten times the amount the current one has? About time you actually explained that one.Lord Kangana wrote:He's right. Players like Spearing, Baptiste, Beckford, Tierney all on Premier league wages. The resigning of Premier League failures like Ream and Wheater. Players like Bolger who were never even close to the first team. The list goes on. And no noticeable upturn in results.
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It's only my opinion. It doesn't carry weight or anything. I think N'Gotty/Laville and Stubbs were better defenders
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N'Gotty was definitely better for us, be he also played in better teams. Stubbs is an interesting one. Plenty of parallels (being young rather than experienced etc) and it could be argued that there was more competition at centre half in Stubber's day. Laville didn't play enough games to really warrant fair comparison.
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Appreciate the comments, LKLord Kangana wrote:N'Gotty was definitely better for us, be he also played in better teams. Stubbs is an interesting one. Plenty of parallels (being young rather than experienced etc) and it could be argued that there was more competition at centre half in Stubber's day. Laville didn't play enough games to really warrant fair comparison.
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread
N'Gotty was stunningly good..sort of missed in the flair of Campo, JJ, Djorkaev etc. but outstanding.
Bergsson was imperious. Such class. Time on the ball. Amazing.
Cahill was/is very very good. He did combine better with some than others and he was too quiet to be captain material but still very good indeed.
Stubbs was good but he played with us in Div 2 largely. He went on to prove his ability but not as good as any of the three above. Paul Jones probably the same.
Bergsson was imperious. Such class. Time on the ball. Amazing.
Cahill was/is very very good. He did combine better with some than others and he was too quiet to be captain material but still very good indeed.
Stubbs was good but he played with us in Div 2 largely. He went on to prove his ability but not as good as any of the three above. Paul Jones probably the same.
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Stubbs a better defender than Cahill? Not in a million years. Stubbs not even in the same league. Seen milk turn faster.TKIZ! wrote:It's only my opinion. It doesn't carry weight or anything. I think N'Gotty/Laville and Stubbs were better defenders
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread
Agreeing, and also with LK. Bruno was very good, Stubbs was good, but Everton and that blatant shove on two of our defenders for the free kick that went in, put me right off him (yes, a bit unfair when comparing talent). Laville had all the making of greatness but....well, you know the rest. Meite and Faye also did a job for us for a spell. Cahill, well, time marches on and he's current.TKIZ! wrote:It's only my opinion. It doesn't carry weight or anything. I think N'Gotty/Laville and Stubbs were better defenders
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Forgot Faye. On his day an absolute beast, one of the first names on the team sheet. I think its fair to suppose that had Allardyce remained interested and stayed, Faye would probably have become a real club legend for us. Rather lost his way with the upheaval at Newcastle.
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To my shame I forgot Faye, though I think of him more as a central midfield enforcer.Lord Kangana wrote:Forgot Faye. On his day an absolute beast, one of the first names on the team sheet. I think its fair to suppose that had Allardyce remained interested and stayed, Faye would probably have become a real club legend for us. Rather lost his way with the upheaval at Newcastle.
One match at home v Arsenal he put in the finest midfield performance I ever remember seeing. He out Vierra'd Vierra. ... & absolutely his career went off the rails when he moved out. I always held out a small hope he'd return.
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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread
Ah ... NOW I se Dougie's game plan ...
(direct quotes via the BEN btw)
“Cash is king. In our position we need to be shrewd and wait for .... At that point it’ll be the right price and the right time for us. I could go out and sign three players tomorrow morning but that has never been my style. I don’t do short-term solutions. I am patient. I was patient with Craig Dawson, I was patient with Lukas Jutkiewicz and I’m being patient with Joe Mason – I think that’s the way to be.”
Be patient, and take your time, like we did with Dawson and the Juke.
Winning formula.
Yes, I know we're boracic. I know we can't splash the cash but those are two very strange examples to chose.
(direct quotes via the BEN btw)
“Cash is king. In our position we need to be shrewd and wait for .... At that point it’ll be the right price and the right time for us. I could go out and sign three players tomorrow morning but that has never been my style. I don’t do short-term solutions. I am patient. I was patient with Craig Dawson, I was patient with Lukas Jutkiewicz and I’m being patient with Joe Mason – I think that’s the way to be.”
Be patient, and take your time, like we did with Dawson and the Juke.
Winning formula.
Yes, I know we're boracic. I know we can't splash the cash but those are two very strange examples to chose.
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Davies does seem an incredibly strange comparison to make. What about signing a player, then sending him out on loan a year later and bringing in others on loan in his stead, exemplifies the virtue of patience?
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Possibly stubbornness?Lord Kangana wrote:Davies does seem an incredibly strange comparison to make. What about signing a player, then sending him out on loan a year later and bringing in others on loan in his stead, exemplifies the virtue of patience?
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So we wait until January down in 18th place then make a late dash for 14th. Great.bobo the clown wrote:Ah ... NOW I se Dougie's game plan ...
(direct quotes via the BEN btw)
“Cash is king. In our position we need to be shrewd and wait for .... At that point it’ll be the right price and the right time for us. I could go out and sign three players tomorrow morning but that has never been my style. I don’t do short-term solutions. I am patient. I was patient with Craig Dawson, I was patient with Lukas Jutkiewicz and I’m being patient with Joe Mason – I think that’s the way to be.”
Be patient, and take your time, like we did with Dawson and the Juke.
Winning formula.
Yes, I know we're boracic. I know we can't splash the cash but those are two very strange examples to chose.
Might just ask if I can trade my ST for two half ST's, this season and next, from January.
I'll stump up the difference for next season.
Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread
Have we got money or haven't we? I keep losing track. If we could sign three players tomorrow morning we can't be that hard up.
Also, we definitely did use to insert sell on clauses in our youngsters contracts, because we made money off the likes of David Norris when he went to Ipswich. Other than Chris Basham (who we got good money for), I can't remember us selling any of our kids in recent years, they usually just get released and fade away. I do however note that James Sinclair is having an interesting career - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Sinc ... tballer%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Eaves's legacy will be the fact we signed him based off one game, and that he was thrown on against Blackpool just so Dougie could troll Kevin Davies.
Also, we definitely did use to insert sell on clauses in our youngsters contracts, because we made money off the likes of David Norris when he went to Ipswich. Other than Chris Basham (who we got good money for), I can't remember us selling any of our kids in recent years, they usually just get released and fade away. I do however note that James Sinclair is having an interesting career - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Sinc ... tballer%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Eaves's legacy will be the fact we signed him based off one game, and that he was thrown on against Blackpool just so Dougie could troll Kevin Davies.
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Just back to defenders for a minute - surprised no one mentioned Ben Haim. Always thought he was a class act either at centre half or full back. Fell foul of the 'Bolton curse' by becoming bobbins as soon as he left us
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What on earth are you on about?Lord Kangana wrote:Davies does seem an incredibly strange comparison to make. What about signing a player, then sending him out on loan a year later and bringing in others on loan in his stead, exemplifies the virtue of patience?
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He's talking about getting the right player rather than just any old rubbish.bobo the clown wrote:Ah ... NOW I se Dougie's game plan ...
(direct quotes via the BEN btw)
“Cash is king. In our position we need to be shrewd and wait for .... At that point it’ll be the right price and the right time for us. I could go out and sign three players tomorrow morning but that has never been my style. I don’t do short-term solutions. I am patient. I was patient with Craig Dawson, I was patient with Lukas Jutkiewicz and I’m being patient with Joe Mason – I think that’s the way to be.”
Be patient, and take your time, like we did with Dawson and the Juke.
Winning formula.
Yes, I know we're boracic. I know we can't splash the cash but those are two very strange examples to chose.
See Marvin Sordell as the ultimate example of just spending money cos it is there.
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I'll see your Sordell and Raise you an Elmander.BWFC_Insane wrote:He's talking about getting the right player rather than just any old rubbish.bobo the clown wrote:Ah ... NOW I se Dougie's game plan ...
(direct quotes via the BEN btw)
“Cash is king. In our position we need to be shrewd and wait for .... At that point it’ll be the right price and the right time for us. I could go out and sign three players tomorrow morning but that has never been my style. I don’t do short-term solutions. I am patient. I was patient with Craig Dawson, I was patient with Lukas Jutkiewicz and I’m being patient with Joe Mason – I think that’s the way to be.”
Be patient, and take your time, like we did with Dawson and the Juke.
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Craig Davies.BWFC_Insane wrote:What on earth are you on about?Lord Kangana wrote:Davies does seem an incredibly strange comparison to make. What about signing a player, then sending him out on loan a year later and bringing in others on loan in his stead, exemplifies the virtue of patience?
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Great. Why?Lord Kangana wrote:Craig Davies.BWFC_Insane wrote:What on earth are you on about?Lord Kangana wrote:Davies does seem an incredibly strange comparison to make. What about signing a player, then sending him out on loan a year later and bringing in others on loan in his stead, exemplifies the virtue of patience?
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