Bolton vs Chelsea

[truewhite15]

Abysmal first half. Only seemed to solidify, albeit marginally, when Petrov was stuck on the right flank and Gardner on the left.

Second half was much improved. After Chelsea were already 4 up. And had moved down to first gear. And it didn't f*cking matter anymore.

Boyata, Gardner, Pratley and Ngog are the only ones to come out with any semblance of praise. Knight, perhaps, when he came on second half.

Wigan now becomes a MUST WIN game. If the players think the fans are on their backs now, then imagine what we'd be like if our lot of over-hyped multi-millionaires lost to Wigan, when our season is supposed to reboot.

[BWFC_Insane]

yeah and chelsea ripped us apart down that left hand side he's a liability if he dont want to graft drop the cvnt ,eagles and tuncay can play there in that setup infact that's what he should started with instead of davo and petrov

Being ripped apart down the left is not ONLY Petrov's fault.

Just because Robinson shouts at everyone else and blames others, doesn't mean he's a good full back all of a sudden.

The amount of times a centre back was drawn out to left back because Robbo clearly didn't fancy his chances, or was just well out of position and/or left in the dust...shocking.

How many times does Robinson overlap, or get a cross in? That's part of a full back's job too.

Petrov is a scapegoat for Robinson. Neither are any good defensively, the difference is that the other actually gives us something going forward.

i think it's the other way round mate

robbo was fairly good last season especially when he had taylor infront of him they had a better understanding plus taylor was one of our most hardworking players last season not to mention elmander used to track back down the wings to help out back to BASICS now

if i was in the TRENCHES i would't want petrov in there with me you know what i mean

You are right but equally Petrov is one of our few attacking players who is an outlet and stretches teams. Robinson has been abysmal this season no point pretending otherwise. Petrov is never going to protect a full back fully, agreed, but we can't afford to let our whole team shape suffer because of Robinsons inadequacies.

And yes we miss Elmander massively. I always knew we would. But remember the Elmander story has changed from, he's a fat lazy useless sack of shite- good riddance, to well yes of course we'd have been best to keep him but we couldn't afford him, with the usual suspects on here!

[Norpig]

Robinson is just not good enough he gets drawn out of position to easily and then does not have the pace to get back into position. This causes the CB Boyata or Knight to cover for him this in turn leaves massive gaps in the middle of the field. Robinson has to go, up front Davies is not the same player he was 2 years ago you could see signs of him losing his heading ability last season he has lost the spring in his legs. This season he looks even worse, thanks for your service Davo but it is time to move over.

If Petrov is taken out we will have zero flair or creativity, he looks good on the left going forward but although he tries to tackle back it is not natural and he will never be good at it. We either have to accept this or get a Taylor type player (god forbid).

My big worry is that yes we have never been very good at playing the top six teams but we have never been beaten so easily and by so many game after game before. I will be interested how we get on in the next few matches but for me we are in a relegation scrap and if we don't improve fast we will be cast adrift by Christmas.

[BWFC_Insane]

Absolute shit. No fight, no bottle, no determination and a complete lack of organisation.

We are at Sammy Lee levels. Something is not right, it wouldn't surprise me if Coyle had completely lost the dressing room. We are so bad at the basics it's pointless worrying about anything else.

How Robinson gets a game week in week out when he's poor, yet others are binned straight away is beyond me.

Worst start in 109 years, and fook the fixtures we've been embarrassing and this is honestly the worst set of games I've suffered through in a long long time.

We need some structure and some organisation. We have done all season but none seems forthcoming. Lose at Wigan and I think we need to start looking at our options big time!

fvck off

And give ya head a shake

We are bottom of the league with 3 points from 36. If Wigan beat us you can bet your bottom dollar that Eddie Davies will at the very least start to get a bit twitchy. I'm not calling for the managers head, but it's a fact of life that he doesn't have that long to turn this round!

[MorphOS2.6]

We make it so easy for every team we play to score.
Every other team can see robbos confidence is shot and play it down there to get a cross in and bang its a goal. If every other team, even norwich can see it what is coyle looking at?

Its obvious stick tricky in there but no keep with robbo as hes had something like a ten game nightmare run since the semi final. Its piss poor coyle you have no defensive nouse and are a one trick pony with attack attack being the only defence.

Basics coyle

[Lord Kangana]

Kean, Hodgson, Bruce, Martinez and Jol should all be under more pressure, considering the easy starts they've all f*cked up.

[plymouth wanderer]

yeah and chelsea ripped us apart down that left hand side he's a liability if he dont want to graft drop the cvnt ,eagles and tuncay can play there in that setup infact that's what he should started with instead of davo and petrov

Being ripped apart down the left is not ONLY Petrov's fault.

Just because Robinson shouts at everyone else and blames others, doesn't mean he's a good full back all of a sudden.

The amount of times a centre back was drawn out to left back because Robbo clearly didn't fancy his chances, or was just well out of position and/or left in the dust...shocking.

How many times does Robinson overlap, or get a cross in? That's part of a full back's job too.

Petrov is a scapegoat for Robinson. Neither are any good defensively, the difference is that the other actually gives us something going forward.

i think it's the other way round mate

robbo was fairly good last season especially when he had taylor infront of him they had a better understanding plus taylor was one of our most hardworking players last season not to mention elmander used to track back down the wings to help out back to BASICS now

if i was in the TRENCHES i would't want petrov in there with me you know what i mean

You are right but equally Petrov is one of our few attacking players who is an outlet and stretches teams. Robinson has been abysmal this season no point pretending otherwise. Petrov is never going to protect a full back fully, agreed, but we can't afford to let our whole team shape suffer because of Robinsons inadequacies.

And yes we miss Elmander massively. I always knew we would. But remember the Elmander story has changed from, he's a fat lazy useless sack of shite- good riddance, to well yes of course we'd have been best to keep him but we couldn't afford him, with the usual suspects on here!

i agree with most of that

but if we are going to chop and change things why don't we try the other players (tuncay,eagles) who can play there petrov is not undropable he is a lazy fvck a couple of good crosses and people are creaming in there pants but we get hammerd, someone said why do other players get dropped on a whim and not robbo

for one we got no fvcker else to play there fvck knows how's Rico gonna feel after today and i don't fancy sticking alonso or one of our CB's there that's for sure so what do we do

[BWFC_Insane]

Kean, Hodgson, Bruce, Martinez and Jol should all be under more pressure, considering the easy starts they've all f*cked up.

Kean is and will be gone soon enough.

Wigan are very poor, but in two weeks time we will be able to test ourselves against that.

Same with Sunderland the week after.

Can't imagine West Brom or Fulham defending as poorly as we have toda against anyone!

[Gail Platz]

You know the classic line from a parent of "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed", well, that's what I thought today for the first time ever watching Bolton. I didn't boo, the players and manager didn't deserve my time and energy to boo. Kevin Davies is an absolute liability and for far too long he's been stealing a living 'playing' for this club. This is as much the fault of Coyle, who for some bizarre reason continues to pick him, when he has about as much impact as a wet lettuce leaf on a fat man's diet.

I was actually shocked at Bogdan's performance, possibly the worst goalkeeping performance of all time and I've seen that Taibi bloke and Gomes play. I can't say he was helped out with the defence though, I lost count the amount of times Sturridge ran down the right hand side and I looked literally all over the pitch for Robinson and couldn't see him. He's simply not good enough for this division.

Change is needed, and fast. I'm massively losing faith in Coyle's choice of players, in fact I wasn't impressed with his signings in the first place, but if we're to get anything out of the Wigan game in a couple of weeks we HAVE to go for something like this:

----------Jussi-----------
Boyata---Cahill---Knight---Gardner
Eagles---Reo Coker---MDavies---Petrov
-------Tuncay---Ngog---------

I'm open to a few changes as long as it means Darren Pratley, Kevin Davies and Paul Robinson get absolutely nowhere near the first team. All three are completely shocking players and it's party at Gail's house when they finally go!

[jmjhb]

I doubt Jol will be under much pressure. His Fulham team are currently 6 up against QPR

[BWFC_Insane]

You know the classic line from a parent of "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed", well, that's what I thought today for the first time ever watching Bolton. I didn't boo, the players and manager didn't deserve my time and energy to boo. Kevin Davies is an absolute liability and for far too long he's been stealing a living 'playing' for this club. This is as much the fault of Coyle, who for some bizarre reason continues to pick him, when he has about as much impact as a wet lettuce leaf on a fat man's diet.

I was actually shocked at Bogdan's performance, possibly the worst goalkeeping performance of all time and I've seen that Taibi bloke and Gomes play. I can't say he was helped out with the defence though, I lost count the amount of times Sturridge ran down the right hand side and I looked literally all over the pitch for Robinson and couldn't see him. He's simply not good enough for this division.

Change is needed, and fast. I'm massively losing faith in Coyle's choice of players, in fact I wasn't impressed with his signings in the first place, but if we're to get anything out of the Wigan game in a couple of weeks we HAVE to go for something like this:

----------Jussi-----------
Boyata---Cahill---Knight---Gardner
Eagles---Reo Coker---MDavies---Petrov
-------Tuncay---Ngog---------

I'm open to a few changes as long as it means Darren Pratley, Kevin Davies and Paul Robinson get absolutely nowhere near the first team. All three are completely shocking players and it's party at Gail's house when they finally go!

Really? I think Pratley is getting better, and I like his work rate.

[officer_dibble]

Kean, Hodgson, Bruce, Martinez and Jol should all be under more pressure, considering the easy starts they've all f*cked up.

Tell you what they need...a match against bolton!!

[plymouth wanderer]

Kean, Hodgson, Bruce, Martinez and Jol should all be under more pressure, considering the easy starts they've all f*cked up.

Tell you what they need...a match against bolton!!

[Gail Platz]

Really? I think Pratley is getting better, and I like his work rate.

I remember watching him at Swansea last season thinking how piss poor he was, and then when we were linked with him I couldn't believe it. He's a Matty Taylor but in the centre of the park, but even slower, with a worse first touch and no left foot.

[Lord Kangana]

Aye, but Lee and Megson never managed a goal at the Bok against Chelsea. Neither did Allardyce for the last 5 years. We have the worst run of results against Chelsea of any match up of teams in the Premier League. Before today. Its not like we've been covering ourselves in glory against them previously.

And its not like piss poor performances at Wigan when in desperate need of a result have ever lead to a manager being shown the door here either.

[officer_dibble]

Really? I think Pratley is getting better, and I like his work rate.

I remember watching him at Swansea last season thinking how piss poor he was, and then when we were linked with him I couldn't believe it. He's a Matty Taylor but in the centre of the park, but even slower, with a worse first touch and no left foot.

So not really much in common with taylor then? other than both having played for us?!

[Gail Platz]

Really? I think Pratley is getting better, and I like his work rate.

I remember watching him at Swansea last season thinking how piss poor he was, and then when we were linked with him I couldn't believe it. He's a Matty Taylor but in the centre of the park, but even slower, with a worse first touch and no left foot.

So not really much in common with taylor then? other than both having played for us?!

Yes they're both very slow players, they both have no first touch, and they both just run around the pitch (slowly) but don't really do anything.

[Porrohman]

Really? I think Pratley is getting better, and I like his work rate.

I remember watching him at Swansea last season thinking how piss poor he was, and then when we were linked with him I couldn't believe it. He's a Matty Taylor but in the centre of the park, but even slower, with a worse first touch and no left foot.

It's marvellous what they can do now a one legged footballer!

[plymouth wanderer]

we lost one of the 3 winnable games this season and won the other 2 (including villa)

i know we looked shit against some of the best teams in the world but that's the way it goes

i will judge coyle after the nxt 5 or 6 games

in coyle we trust

[BWFC_Insane]

Aye, but Lee and Megson never managed a goal at the Bok against Chelsea. Neither did Allardyce for the last 5 years. We have the worst run of results against Chelsea of any match up of teams in the Premier League. Before today. Its not like we've been covering ourselves in glory against them previously.

And its not like piss poor performances at Wigan when in desperate need of a result have ever lead to a manager being shown the door here either.

Being bottom of the league though with a PPG of less than 0.5 has though. And we are in that kind of territory. We are so bad it's beyond a joke. Can't see Eddie Davies letting this run of defeats go on much longer can you?