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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by Jugs » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:42 am

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Jugs wrote:Cravies scored a number of goals at this level for Barnsley, and once scored four times in a game away to Birmingham so he's obviously not shit. I think it's hilarious that Mason turned us down.
Don't think Mason turned us down at all. Had some personal issues going on. May happen once the loan window re-opens.
Whatever the reason was, I found it quite funny. And I really hope it doesn't materialise.

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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by Jugs » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:43 am

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boltonboris wrote:I always thought he looked a bit shit, personally. But still unsure why we've been left so short of numbers
He's not the best. But he's a trier and works hard and certainly was worth a squad place. The decision is baffling. Was it Freedman's call?

Either way I don't agree with it at this stage. We could have waited till the loan window to make sure we could get a proper replacement in.
I can't believe that he's been loaned without DF's say-so. There must be more to it than meets the eye. If there's not and it's a purely footballing decision, then he's worse than I thought.
Also, does anyone know if there's any way of seeing last year's table after specific games? Was interested to see what the table looked like after the Watford game last year. Not because I hold out any hope of a similar turnaround, but because I'm a statto geek.
There is a way because I checked recently before the 'boro game. I can't remember the website but the info is out there if you look hard enough.

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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:35 am

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boltonboris wrote:I always thought he looked a bit shit, personally. But still unsure why we've been left so short of numbers
He's not the best. But he's a trier and works hard and certainly was worth a squad place. The decision is baffling. Was it Freedman's call?

Either way I don't agree with it at this stage. We could have waited till the loan window to make sure we could get a proper replacement in.
I can't believe that he's been loaned without DF's say-so. There must be more to it than meets the eye. If there's not and it's a purely footballing decision, then he's worse than I thought.

Also, does anyone know if there's any way of seeing last year's table after specific games? Was interested to see what the table looked like after the Watford game last year. Not because I hold out any hope of a similar turnaround, but because I'm a statto geek.
Marc Iles on twitter reckons it wasn't Dougie's decision to loan out Davies. I don't know if that is true or not. But most things about BWFC seem strange to me at the minute.

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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:42 am

Obviously apart from the manager who can't buy a result.
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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:42 am

Then Dougie should have the courage to do what Colin Todd did when having Fransden sold from under his feet and resign. C'mon Dougie, we're all right behind you.
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Post by jaffka » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:44 am

bobo the clown wrote:Then Dougie should have the courage to do what Colin Todd did when having Fransden sold from under his feet and resign. C'mon Dougie, we're all right behind you.
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grow a backbone Duggie

wasn't Nolan sold without Megson's approval and he made some mummerings?

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:52 am

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Marc Iles on twitter reckons it wasn't Dougie's decision to loan out Davies. I don't know if that is true or not. But most things about BWFC seem strange to me at the minute.
Dougie was probably told that if he wanted the striker beginning with J, then he'll have to offload the striker he bought that he doesn't play. A bit like a parent refusing to buy a teenager a new gadget because they don't use the one they already have.

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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by Prufrock » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:56 am

Yeah I found one too. Google the date you are looking for and 'Championship table'. Think it was the first result that wasn't BBC. Before the Ipswich game we were 5 points worse off than at the same time last year.

And on Cravies. Letting him go in the loan window certainly would make more sense for us. May have been Preston weren't interested in that though as they may be in the play offs and don't want to get 'Dawsoned'.
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Post by Prufrock » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:57 am

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Marc Iles on twitter reckons it wasn't Dougie's decision to loan out Davies. I don't know if that is true or not. But most things about BWFC seem strange to me at the minute.
Dougie was probably told that if he wanted the striker beginning with J, then he'll have to offload the striker he bought that he doesn't play. A bit like a parent refusing to buy a teenager a new gadget because they don't use the one they already have.
The one who'd started the last two games you mean :D ?
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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:58 am

Pardon?
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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:01 am

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Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Marc Iles on twitter reckons it wasn't Dougie's decision to loan out Davies. I don't know if that is true or not. But most things about BWFC seem strange to me at the minute.
Dougie was probably told that if he wanted the striker beginning with J, then he'll have to offload the striker he bought that he doesn't play. A bit like a parent refusing to buy a teenager a new gadget because they don't use the one they already have.
The one who'd started the last two games you mean :D ?
How long has he been with us? Presumably Dougie's usual excuse of fitness applies, leading me to wonder why it takes his much vaunted super-duper back room staff so long to get players fit, yet other clubs send their not played for ages players to us and they go straight into the team...

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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:28 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
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boltonboris wrote:I always thought he looked a bit shit, personally. But still unsure why we've been left so short of numbers
He's not the best. But he's a trier and works hard and certainly was worth a squad place. The decision is baffling. Was it Freedman's call?

Either way I don't agree with it at this stage. We could have waited till the loan window to make sure we could get a proper replacement in.
I can't believe that he's been loaned without DF's say-so. There must be more to it than meets the eye. If there's not and it's a purely footballing decision, then he's worse than I thought.

Also, does anyone know if there's any way of seeing last year's table after specific games? Was interested to see what the table looked like after the Watford game last year. Not because I hold out any hope of a similar turnaround, but because I'm a statto geek.
Marc Iles on twitter reckons it wasn't Dougie's decision to loan out Davies. I don't know if that is true or not. But most things about BWFC seem strange to me at the minute.
I think Iles meant he was given an either/or situation. If he'd wanted to keep Cravies then like AT says he would have had to not take Jut or Trotter. Iles is staring to grate with the Dougie excuse making.
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Re: Ipswich Match Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:40 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
boltonboris wrote:I always thought he looked a bit shit, personally. But still unsure why we've been left so short of numbers
He's not the best. But he's a trier and works hard and certainly was worth a squad place. The decision is baffling. Was it Freedman's call?

Either way I don't agree with it at this stage. We could have waited till the loan window to make sure we could get a proper replacement in.
I can't believe that he's been loaned without DF's say-so. There must be more to it than meets the eye. If there's not and it's a purely footballing decision, then he's worse than I thought.

Also, does anyone know if there's any way of seeing last year's table after specific games? Was interested to see what the table looked like after the Watford game last year. Not because I hold out any hope of a similar turnaround, but because I'm a statto geek.
Marc Iles on twitter reckons it wasn't Dougie's decision to loan out Davies. I don't know if that is true or not. But most things about BWFC seem strange to me at the minute.
I think Iles meant he was given an either/or situation. If he'd wanted to keep Cravies then like AT says he would have had to not take Jut or Trotter. Iles is staring to grate with the Dougie excuse making.
I don't think he or anyone else is making "excuses" they are simply looking at things differently.

Iles write up of the game is in part critical of Freedman. I think people take this stuff too personally. He's just expressing a point of view and to be fair to him, I think it isn't a simplistic "Freedman out/in" one and for that as much as I'm not fan I've got to give Iles credit.

His write up of the game and summation of the situation at the club was on the nose IMO.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:46 pm

He got a striker in. I doubt he was "forced" to do anything. Other than balance the books. Which is far from new news.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:50 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:He got a striker in. I doubt he was "forced" to do anything. Other than balance the books. Which is far from new news.
NGog left....

According to Nixon Ngog was on £35K a week. Davies on £5K a week.

The two we signed are on about £14K between them. That is far from "balancing" anything.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:53 pm

Which two have we signed? And at about £7k per week each? Its hardly penury, I'm sure all our relegation rivals like Bournemouth, Charlton Millwall and Yeovil and the like would love to be able to sign players on those wages.
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Post by ChrisC » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:59 pm

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Lord Kangana wrote:He got a striker in. I doubt he was "forced" to do anything. Other than balance the books. Which is far from new news.
NGog left....

According to Nixon Ngog was on £35K a week. Davies on £5K a week.

The two we signed are on about £14K between them. That is far from "balancing" anything.
Nixon has also said that Dougie is allowed to bring in 2 loans which would bring us upto the 40k.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:00 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Which two have we signed? And at about £7k per week each? Its hardly penury, I'm sure all our relegation rivals like Bournemouth, Charlton Millwall and Yeovil and the like would love to be able to sign players on those wages.
The lad from Boro is on loan and we are covering his wages. This does not suggest that those wages are massively out of step for where we are.

The point being that we have already halved the wage bill as reported in the last accounts and it seems clear that we are going to go a lot further than that.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:01 pm

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His write up of the game and summation of the situation at the club was on the nose IMO.
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Post by Prufrock » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:02 pm

N'Gog was on THIRTY FIVE GRAND A WEEK?! I knew he'd be on a lot but f*ck me sideways.
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