Which muppet can we appoint next?

[boltonboris]

It wasn't ironic, he halfheartedly closed down, got turned inside out and they created bags of space for a shot..

[Peter Thompson]

I work in Fleetwood and live just down the road, so it'll be a couple of short trips for me next year. I had heard that the money was starting to run out at FT?

On another note, I saw Ched Evans in Fleetwood last week and this adds on to a rumour I heard from a neighbour who claims to be in the know, that he's training with the club at the moment on the very QT.

Have,nt heard a peep about this,but I,ll speak to a coach there before the day,s out,don't know about cash running out,the fecker (owner) is just getting richer by the week!

I know a few in Fleetwood, and the owner is rich & his money certainly isn't running out - the issue with Fleetwood is apparently FFP restricting the amount of money the owner can spend on players.

[Harry Genshaw]

Quote from Phillips in the BN:

“I was going to give young Alex the last 10 minutes but Peter Reid – quite rightly as well – said that Reading were looking to put more balls into the box, particularly at set plays and big Emile (Heskey) was a real asset in defending them.

“It was just ironic that as soon as we got him on the pitch we concede to a great strike.”

Nice one Peter!

Aye, cheers Peter because a 0-0 draw was just what we wanted in our mid table position

[Peter Thompson]

Quote from Phillips in the BN:

“I was going to give young Alex the last 10 minutes but Peter Reid – quite rightly as well – said that Reading were looking to put more balls into the box, particularly at set plays and big Emile (Heskey) was a real asset in defending them.

“It was just ironic that as soon as we got him on the pitch we concede to a great strike.”

Nice one Peter!

Reid Out!

Shocking decision IMO to put Heskey on, and shows exactly why Phillips should not be anywhere near the managers job full time - we need a much stronger manager who won't be swayed so easily by a comment from an assistant.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Quote from Phillips in the BN:

“I was going to give young Alex the last 10 minutes but Peter Reid – quite rightly as well – said that Reading were looking to put more balls into the box, particularly at set plays and big Emile (Heskey) was a real asset in defending them.

“It was just ironic that as soon as we got him on the pitch we concede to a great strike.”

Nice one Peter!

Reid Out!

Shocking decision IMO to put Heskey on, and shows exactly why Phillips should not be anywhere near the managers job full time - we need a much stronger manager who won't be swayed so easily by a comment from an assistant.

To be fair we were crying out for our last 3 managers to listen to someone. Lets see if Jimmy learns from it - now that would be a novelty

[Peter Thompson]

Shocking decision IMO to put Heskey on, and shows exactly why Phillips should not be anywhere near the managers job full time - we need a much stronger manager who won't be swayed so easily by a comment from an assistant.

But to provide a counter-argument (I don't want JP as full time manager either for the record) isn't that an assistant's job? To provide his insight and advice for the manager to weigh up, then make an informed decision. Maybe that's what JP did, as much as we disagree with it. I wouldn't say that making or changing a decision following advice from your #2 is necessarily a weak trait. We had a "strong" manager in Lennon and that didn't serve us well.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with listening to the opinion of your assistant or anyone else - however the 'informed decisions' have to be the right ones more often than not....and IMO this was not, trying to protect a 0-0 draw at home when already relegated, when trying to give the supporters something different to the previous manager and showing them that you are at least a little competent - to me does not mean bringing on Heskey - not so he could get us a goal (as we don't even try to attack anymore) but just so that he can defend better than the other mon is shocking.

He could have listened to Reid & said I take on board what you are saying, but Heskey's leaving at the end of the season and our defenders 'should' be able to cope with any long balls in the box - all things considered I need to try the kids and I'd rather give young Alex a few minutes instead of that lump Heskey, he's been warming up for 15 mins now and is keen as mustard and it will be good experience for him, and you never know he may actually get over the half way line and have a shot as I bet the Reading keeper's hands are freezing as he's not touched the ball all game !

[irie Cee Bee]

Shocking decision IMO to put Heskey on, and shows exactly why Phillips should not be anywhere near the managers job full time - we need a much stronger manager who won't be swayed so easily by a comment from an assistant.

But to provide a counter-argument (I don't want JP as full time manager either for the record) isn't that an assistant's job? To provide his insight and advice for the manager to weigh up, then make an informed decision. Maybe that's what JP did, as much as we disagree with it. I wouldn't say that making or changing a decision following advice from your #2 is necessarily a weak trait. We had a "strong" manager in Lennon and that didn't serve us well.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with listening to the opinion of your assistant or anyone else - however the 'informed decisions' have to be the right ones more often than not....and IMO this was not, trying to protect a 0-0 draw at home when already relegated, when trying to give the supporters something different to the previous manager and showing them that you are at least a little competent - to me does not mean bringing on Heskey - not so he could get us a goal (as we don't even try to attack anymore) but just so that he can defend better than the other mon is shocking.

He could have listened to Reid & said I take on board what you are saying, but Heskey's leaving at the end of the season and our defenders 'should' be able to cope with any long balls in the box - all things considered I need to try the kids and I'd rather give young Alex a few minutes instead of that lump Heskey, he's been warming up for 15 mins now and is keen as mustard and it will be good experience for him, and you never know he may actually get over the half way line and have a shot as I bet the Reading keeper's hands are freezing as he's not touched the ball all game !

When I read JPs comment after the game it was clear to me that he is not the man for the job fulltime. He was either throwing Reid under the bus because the Heskey change backfired, or was too weak to stand by his own decision. Either way, not what we want from a manager.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Shocking decision IMO to put Heskey on, and shows exactly why Phillips should not be anywhere near the managers job full time - we need a much stronger manager who won't be swayed so easily by a comment from an assistant.

But to provide a counter-argument (I don't want JP as full time manager either for the record) isn't that an assistant's job? To provide his insight and advice for the manager to weigh up, then make an informed decision. Maybe that's what JP did, as much as we disagree with it. I wouldn't say that making or changing a decision following advice from your #2 is necessarily a weak trait. We had a "strong" manager in Lennon and that didn't serve us well.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with listening to the opinion of your assistant or anyone else - however the 'informed decisions' have to be the right ones more often than not....and IMO this was not, trying to protect a 0-0 draw at home when already relegated, when trying to give the supporters something different to the previous manager and showing them that you are at least a little competent - to me does not mean bringing on Heskey - not so he could get us a goal (as we don't even try to attack anymore) but just so that he can defend better than the other mon is shocking.

He could have listened to Reid & said I take on board what you are saying, but Heskey's leaving at the end of the season and our defenders 'should' be able to cope with any long balls in the box - all things considered I need to try the kids and I'd rather give young Alex a few minutes instead of that lump Heskey, he's been warming up for 15 mins now and is keen as mustard and it will be good experience for him, and you never know he may actually get over the half way line and have a shot as I bet the Reading keeper's hands are freezing as he's not touched the ball all game !

When I read JPs comment after the game it was clear to me that he is not the man for the job fulltime. He was either throwing Reid under the bus because the Heskey change backfired, or was too weak to stand by his own decision. Either way, not what we want from a manager.

Or he took the advice of a far more experienced manager that was brought in for the purpose of helping him. Not saying Jimmy is the man for the job, but all he's done is listen to someone with more experience. Important thing is he learns to trust his own instincts at the right time.

[thebish]

i think his mistake is simply telling us about it... it's all chance and forture - had heskey scored the winner - and JP had let us knolw he took Reid's advice - we'd all be on here saying what a great trait it is of a manager to listen to advice...

[BWFC_Insane]

If the result mattered how many managers would bring on a 5ft midget who has never played in the first team before ahead of a 6ft plus experienced target man?

I mean in the situation we might as well have had a look at Samizadeh. But Heskey was the percentage move to try and hang on to a 0-0 for the reasons Phillips outlined. Better aerially defensively more able to hold the ball in theory.

But it was odd to even care about trying to hang on to a 0-0 in our position.

[boltonboris]

had heskey scored the winner

[boltonboris]

feck defending for the last 5 minutes at 0-0 at home - A draw makes no difference - A win keeps the wolf from the door for another week or 2..

I'd bet my house that in 20 games, young Alex would get 3 times the goals Heskey would

[boltonboris]

If the result mattered how many managers would bring on a 5ft midget who has never played in the first team before ahead of a 6ft plus experienced target man?

I mean in the situation we might as well have had a look at Samizadeh. But Heskey was the percentage move to try and hang on to a 0-0 for the reasons Phillips outlined. Better aerially defensively more able to hold the ball in theory.

But it was odd to even care about trying to hang on to a 0-0 in our position.

Definitely odd - I agree with everything you've said expect for Heskey being able to hold the ball (in theory).. He couldn't hold an apple in both hands.

Heskey weakens us defensively, as nothing sticks, he can't even run to pressurise defenders. He needs it at his feet, slowly, but even then it'll bounce off, or he'll fall over

[Dr Hotdog]

had heskey scored the winner

[thebish]

bringing back the glory..

[LeverEnd]

I'd have thought the young lad would've been a spectator on the halfway line as we were doing nothing up front or in mdifield. I agree that he's more liekly to bury a chance than Heskey but doubt he'd have got one. Obviously a point is worth feck all in keeping us up, but nor is 3. They were never going to get 3, but a draw would have given them something to cling to confidence wise, however small.
Subbing Alex S instead of EH would've made no difference either to the nil that we got or the one that they got. Never seen Jimmy as manager, but this makes no odds either way to me.

[CrazyHorse]

"Get rid of Lennon, stick Jimmy Phillips in instead. Things can't get any worse."

[CrazyHorse]

"Give the kids a chance. Things can't get any worse."

[CrazyHorse]

[Bruce Rioja]

"Give the kids a chance. Things can't get any worse."

They're not actually getting any worse! At least we can see now that next season's going to be a fecking disaster as well. You know, gets all this ridiculous optimism out of the way good and early.