The ianevattable sacking
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We also didn't lay a glove on Oxford in that game. No shots on target. No plan B or responding well to what was happening on the pitch. Any tactical changes he makes are more seasonal than they are relevant to a single game.
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I’ve just twigged we aren’t bringing replacements in. So the plan to stop being so shit has been to reduce coaching and analysis staff. Make it make sense! 
I think we could well be a Neil Warnock rescue job around Christmas time. We might win a couple but I can still see us being in and around the relegation zone with that decision made by Sharon.

I think we could well be a Neil Warnock rescue job around Christmas time. We might win a couple but I can still see us being in and around the relegation zone with that decision made by Sharon.
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I personally don't think we'll be anywhere near a relegation fight. My concern is not the bottom end of the table, it's not getting into the playoffs
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officer_dibble wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:20 pmI’ve just twigged we aren’t bringing replacements in. So the plan to stop being so shit has been to reduce coaching and analysis staff. Make it make sense!
I think we could well be a Neil Warnock rescue job around Christmas time. We might win a couple but I can still see us being in and around the relegation zone with that decision made by Sharon.
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Yeah, this.boltonboris wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:23 pmI personally don't think we'll be anywhere near a relegation fight. My concern is not the bottom end of the table, it's not getting into the playoffs
Without being blasé, there's too many good players there for us not to win a few games. Maybe even a few on the bounce. It's just that I don't think we have the answer when we get asked a question.
So yeah, like you, I'm now worried we won't even reach the playoffs. 2PPG is getting unlikely for the above reasons, and even the playoffs isn't an easy target. In the last 10 seasons, lowest play-off contender has got (going backwards from last season) 76, 77, 83, 74, (covid), 73, 71, 73, 74, 69 - 76pts is 1.65ppg, 77 is 1.67ppg so split the difference and call it 1.66ppg. That's 5pts every 3 games - WDD.
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She keeping it open for a new managers team? I dunno. Whole thing stinks really and the first misplaced pass on Saturday will get the boos… gonna be like megson again. There’s barely a post in support of him that isn’t from an opposition fan!
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Agree with much of what you wrote (Morais was a Parky signing though - finally coming up trumps from his old club after signing two duck eggs) but you can feck off with that ^^.Jeux sans frontiéres wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:38 pmWe give the players stick for losing their heads and not showing fight. I can't say I've seen much of that from the fans either.
Over 20,000 home fans for 3 consecutive division 3 matches is not a sign of fans giving up. The atmosphere may be a bit more muted since Wembley but he's had superb backing from the fans. I reckon that's about to change significantly though..
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Not sure what you mean here DIbs?
I suspect she's either bottled it or has more faith than me. I do know some Bolton fans who are saying give him a bit longer, but they're saying it quietly, and I understand that (and the rather louder howls of opposition, with which I now side).
If we're thinking of changing manager, it should happen (1) early enough to make the playoffs (2) preferably before a winnable run of games and (3) when suitable alternatives are available. As the season drags on, probably (3) and certainly (1) diminish. (2) might happen again but it's a risk.
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If Evatt thinks Saturday was negative, if we go behind against Reading it will be Megson esq.
There is no goodwill left amongst the supporters & his post match comments on Saturday made this much worse, it really is a sticking plaster decision by the owners & a very poor ill thought out one at best.
Everything is always about Ian Evatt, it wasn't his team, he doesn't want it to be his legacy and so on....just go and take SB with you, its obvious to me that she knows absolutely nothing about the football side of things.
There is no goodwill left amongst the supporters & his post match comments on Saturday made this much worse, it really is a sticking plaster decision by the owners & a very poor ill thought out one at best.
Everything is always about Ian Evatt, it wasn't his team, he doesn't want it to be his legacy and so on....just go and take SB with you, its obvious to me that she knows absolutely nothing about the football side of things.
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Sorry - I meant is she not recruiting coaching staff because she would rather spend on the new managers team people when the ‘ianevittable’ happens.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:00 pmNot sure what you mean here DIbs?
I suspect she's either bottled it or has more faith than me. I do know some Bolton fans who are saying give him a bit longer, but they're saying it quietly, and I understand that (and the rather louder howls of opposition, with which I now side).
If we're thinking of changing manager, it should happen (1) early enough to make the playoffs (2) preferably before a winnable run of games and (3) when suitable alternatives are available. As the season drags on, probably (3) and certainly (1) diminish. (2) might happen again but it's a risk.
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If GT is to become captain, maybe that’s because Santos is no longer a guaranteed starter. Ghost would know better than me but watching Santos trying to sprint back on Saturday looked to me like he’s lost a yard of pace since his injury.
As re Craddock, why was his position not identified as a casualty of the root and branch exercise done over the summer?
As re Craddock, why was his position not identified as a casualty of the root and branch exercise done over the summer?
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Not even sure we have anyone who might want to buy her out. Think Lucock is her mate and the Swiss are Lucock's brothers mates. So unless we think there's someone new lined up to pour cash into a shit pit, I'd be careful what I wished for, even though I think she's made a wrong call. Probably eaiser to replace a Manager than the owners...Bertie Wooster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:01 pmIf Evatt thinks Saturday was negative, if we go behind against Reading it will be Megson esq.
There is no goodwill left amongst the supporters & his post match comments on Saturday made this much worse, it really is a sticking plaster decision by the owners & a very poor ill thought out one at best.
Everything is always about Ian Evatt, it wasn't his team, he doesn't want it to be his legacy and so on....just go and take SB with you, its obvious to me that she knows absolutely nothing about the football side of things.
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Totally agree with this.Bertie Wooster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:01 pmIf Evatt thinks Saturday was negative, if we go behind against Reading it will be Megson esq.
There is no goodwill left amongst the supporters & his post match comments on Saturday made this much worse, it really is a sticking plaster decision by the owners & a very poor ill thought out one at best.
Everything is always about Ian Evatt, it wasn't his team, he doesn't want it to be his legacy and so on....just go and take SB with you, its obvious to me that she knows absolutely nothing about the football side of things.
There will be a fair few now who don’t go on Saturday - their ST will of course still count in the attendance. They will surely sell very few tickets indeed. So the split in the ground will be a bit more favourable towards Sharon and Evatt. But it will turn quickly, and I think given the easy ride they have had so far (particularly Sharon) it will surprise them.
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Yes I'll be one giving it another miss.officer_dibble wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:11 pmTotally agree with this.Bertie Wooster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:01 pmIf Evatt thinks Saturday was negative, if we go behind against Reading it will be Megson esq.
There is no goodwill left amongst the supporters & his post match comments on Saturday made this much worse, it really is a sticking plaster decision by the owners & a very poor ill thought out one at best.
Everything is always about Ian Evatt, it wasn't his team, he doesn't want it to be his legacy and so on....just go and take SB with you, its obvious to me that she knows absolutely nothing about the football side of things.
There will be a fair few now who don’t go on Saturday - their ST will of course still count in the attendance. They will surely sell very few tickets indeed. So the split in the ground will be a bit more favourable towards Sharon and Evatt. But it will turn quickly, and I think given the easy ride they have had so far (particularly Sharon) it will surprise them.
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Ahhh - very fair. Possibly. "You can throw him out but you're not having a replacement".officer_dibble wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:06 pmI meant is she not recruiting coaching staff because she would rather spend on the new managers team people when the ‘ianevittable’ happens.
Presumably one of Crainey and Atherton will abandon their Statler and Waldorf shtick and take training. Time's running out.
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It will be interesting to see what the actual attendance is on Saturday, not the published attendance as this includes 1000's of ST holders who don't come to many games - the actual no of people in the stadium.
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Oh dear. Where to start?
Blaming a coach you recently hired, having seen them in action as your B team manager and acting 1st team coach, is a bit like spending money on Dan after what can only be described as a shit 6 month loan. The coach has been getting the message across in training for the last couple of years presumably (given he was given it after being in the club for some time)? I'd be more inclined to think the plan is too bonkers for the coach to get it across.
Regardless, Evatt's lost much of the fanbase and no amount of stubbornness from Evatt or the board is going to make it work. Short of a 20 game winning run in the midst of a poor atmosphere there is no way back. They need to be lining up a replacement ready for the ianevattable.
Blaming a coach you recently hired, having seen them in action as your B team manager and acting 1st team coach, is a bit like spending money on Dan after what can only be described as a shit 6 month loan. The coach has been getting the message across in training for the last couple of years presumably (given he was given it after being in the club for some time)? I'd be more inclined to think the plan is too bonkers for the coach to get it across.
Regardless, Evatt's lost much of the fanbase and no amount of stubbornness from Evatt or the board is going to make it work. Short of a 20 game winning run in the midst of a poor atmosphere there is no way back. They need to be lining up a replacement ready for the ianevattable.
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If nobody turns up and they win. Problem solved.Bertie Wooster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:23 pmIt will be interesting to see what the actual attendance is on Saturday, not the published attendance as this includes 1000's of ST holders who don't come to many games - the actual no of people in the stadium.
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Root and branch review concluded they needed a bigger coaching staff.officer_dibble wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:42 pmShe keeping it open for a new managers team? I dunno. Whole thing stinks really and the first misplaced pass on Saturday will get the boos… gonna be like megson again. There’s barely a post in support of him that isn’t from an opposition fan!
Now decided they need a smaller one.
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