DMB's Away.

[TANGODANCER]

Zat Knight is a fcuking disgrace

The penalty, the first goal, the second goal

Fcuk off you long lump of shite

Good night

Not defending Knight at all, he isn't good enough, but I've seen that "penalty" about four times and Welbeck was looking for it from the word go. The "push" (call that touch) wouldn't have knocked your grandma over. Only good thing about it was Bogdan's brilliant save. Penalties all round are a joke. Ferdinand upended N'gog, did the arm's raised "not me ref" bit and we got nothing. That cheating Chelsea txxt Torres should have been sent off for his dive to try and get one, and yet Ashley Cole's "attack" on a player in the box went totally unpunished. Level playing field, it's just mockery.

[Salford Trotter]

We did okay yesterday, I was sat in the home end and there were plenty of plaudits for our efforts but in the end we conceded 3 and in truth it could have been more. Against lesser tean we'll convert some of those chances and we'll concede less so i'm hopeful that we'll get ourselves out of this mess.

[norm the jedi]

Zat Knight is a fcuking disgrace

The penalty, the first goal, the second goal

Fcuk off you long lump of shite

Good night

Not defending Knight at all, he isn't good enough, but I've seen that "penalty" about four times and Welbeck was looking for it from the word go. The "push" (call that touch) wouldn't have knocked your grandma over. Only good thing about it was Bogdan's brilliant save. Penalties all round are a joke. Ferdinand upended N'gog, did the arm's raised "not me ref" bit and we got nothing. That cheating Chelsea txxt Torres should have been sent off for his dive to try and get one, and yet Ashley Cole's "attack" on a player in the box went totally unpunished. Level playing field, it's just mockery.

Heartily agree Tango in a week when tackling seems to have been officially outlawed [ I still think Kompany's was a great tackle but I'm very old ] that said though Mr Knight is having a pretty poor season.. and is prone to catastrophic lapses of concentration and ability much loved of Titus Bramble.. Martin O'Neill quoted saying that Cahill can't defend!!! feck me He's spent sometime doing the defending for two.. Knight is poor, with or without cheating modern footballers and plkaying in an era where Basketball has more contact.. Unless you're Stoke who have apparently been granted a free pass to wrestle people to the floor in the penalty box and never concede a pen..] May be the championship will be more entertaining and a bit more honest.. Knight may be a better defender at that level? but I doubt it on current form..

edit So in fact I agree with everything cos you said Knight weren't good and I didn't read it... I'll get me coat.

[Prufrock]

It was a definite penalty, and he probably should have gone. I'm all for the arguments that you can't tackle any more, but he didn't try to tackle him, or get round him, he just gormlessly ran behind and into him. Stonewaller. Torres was tripped as well, at least if you mean the one he got booked for, clear as daylight on the replay. Only seen one of the Ashley Cole one and it looked 50/50.

As for Ricketts, I didn't see him get ripped to shreds at all Dealt well with Valenica, slowed him up, made him check backwards. Certainly did better than whoever City had there second half the other week who got a violent dry bumming.

[Gail Platz]

am Robinson's fiercest critic ... but if he had received even half the pasting Ricketts took yesterday there'd e a few on here drawing our attention to it.

Oh, undoubtedly.

But Ricketts took a pasting at Man U. Robbo was last seen getting a pasting at Macclesfield.

This, 100%

[ChrisC]

How many left and right backs come out of a game against manure without having been rinsed? That is united main point of attack this season.. Pass it out wide and cross it in ... They had no others ideas and that is why red nose asked scholes to come back to give them that creative player to pick a pass and open up defences..

Amazed me how many games this season I have seen manure score from balls out wide.

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

It was a definite penalty, and he probably should have gone. I'm all for the arguments that you can't tackle any more, but he didn't try to tackle him, or get round him, he just gormlessly ran behind and into him. Stonewaller. Torres was tripped as well, at least if you mean the one he got booked for, clear as daylight on the replay. Only seen one of the Ashley Cole one and it looked 50/50.

As for Ricketts, I didn't see him get ripped to shreds at all Dealt well with Valenica, slowed him up, made him check backwards. Certainly did better than whoever City had there second half the other week who got a violent dry bumming.

we must have been watching a different game then. practically everything that gave us problems came from the Utd right.
Ricketts, unsurprisingly, looks short and just may not be the answer at lb.

[Prufrock]

Looks short? Not arguing that they attacked a lot down that side, just that he got ripped to shreds. Valencia was awesome against City, hit the byline time after time, and put in loads of crosses. Ricketts held him up, and there seemed to be a very obvious show him inside tactic, which seemed to work. Can only remember Valencia causing one moment of panic, the hard low cross Boggers got to. There were crosses coming in from that side, but they were delayed, and often from Rafael not Valencia.

[lovethesmellofnapalm]

where's that fella with the stats and fancy diagrams?
how about the one Shrek just failed to turn in or the one that flashed straight across the face which no-one got near to? (both 2nd half when Ricketts may have been tiring which is what i meant by short)

which brings me to another aside - why does Reo Coker always looked shagged out after 60 mins? (yet Muamba is the one to get hooked). can understand both being fooked when we play 4-4-2 but yesterday they were directly up against someone who runs like an 87 yr old and Scholes

[tripod]

[quote="norm the jedi"][quote="TANGODANCER"][quote="CAPSLOCK"]Zat Knight is a fcuking disgrace

Hallelujah, someone else is seeing this. He's useless. The fact him and Robinson have been 50% of our defence this season tells a story

[TANGODANCER]

Zat Knight is a fcuking disgrace

Hallelujah, someone else is seeing this. He's useless. The fact him and Robinson have been 50% of our defence this season tells a story

Most folk know and admit he has some decent games and some crap ones and is never outstanding. He isn't consistent enough for a Premiership defender against good sides. We spend far too much time defending almost every game. If Ream is a ball holder and can pass the ball, sooner he's in the better. Best form of defence has always been attack.

[Bruce Rioja]

Got chatting with Tyrone Mears after the game, who's a really nice bloke. Anyway, he reckons he'll be fit within a month, so that solves feck all.

[bobo the clown]

Got chatting with Tyrone Mears after the game, who's a really nice bloke. Anyway, he reckons he'll be fit within a month, so that solves feck all.

He'll be like a whole new signing !!

[keveh]

Got chatting with Tyrone Mears after the game, who's a really nice bloke. Anyway, he reckons he'll be fit within a month, so that solves feck all.

Yeah but he's a nice bloke so we'll be alright, wont we?!

[Bruce Rioja]

Got chatting with Tyrone Mears after the game, who's a really nice bloke. Anyway, he reckons he'll be fit within a month, so that solves feck all.

Yeah but he's a nice bloke so we'll be alright, wont we?!

Well, we do employ a geriatric journeyman by dint of him being 'good in the dressing room', so who knows?

[BWFC_Insane]

Mears could be the answer....

Only trouble is, nobody seems to know what the question is!

[boltonboris]

I thought Steinsson did a sterling job in keeping Nani under wraps. Ricketts, despite Valencia's MOM performance handled him as well as anybody else could when he's in this kind of form.

Second half we played well. Until the second went in, we were comfortably the better side in the second half and with a bit more composure, we could've gotten 3 ourselves.

In the first half, Eagles should've done better when playing in Reo-Coker. He had the beating of Evra all day, he just couldn't find a white shirt for love nor money.

[Dr Hotdog]

Not read through everything but am I the only one who thinks the little ginger bastard who scored the first goal committed two yellow card offenses before slotting home in first half injury time?
A high challenge on Mark Davies (after about 15 minutes) and deliberate handball (the most obvious breach of the rules in the whole 90+ minutes) resulted in free kicks and nothing more.

[boltonboris]

That's a good point...

[thebish]

Not read through everything but am I the only one who thinks the little ginger bastard who scored the first goal committed two yellow card offenses before slotting home in first half injury time?
A high challenge on Mark Davies (after about 15 minutes) and deliberate handball (the most obvious breach of the rules in the whole 90+ minutes) resulted in free kicks and nothing more.

yeah - but - (chortle chortle) - it's Paul Scholes (chuckle, chuckle) - he means no harm (giggle) - he's never been the greatest tackler (smiley, smiley) - and he's not as quick as he used to be (guffaw) - he's a good honest hard-working midfielder - (greasy, greasy) - a lovable old harmless rogue (smugly smugly) - he's not gonna change now...

repeat until you vomit...