Den bones, Den bones, Den dry bones...

[jaffka]

You would have thought that our significantly overpaid and cosseted players could have afforded something more than a 2nd class rail fare quite easily. Given that it was planned in advance.

Especially as on a Saturday 1st class upgrade is a flat £15 each all day?????

Perhaps they have formed a hard line communist faction.

Further evidence that if wasn't pre-planned. First class would have been full, hence them slumming it for their journey north.

I wonder what this fall out is about.

[Bruce Rioja]

How on earth did their goal go in?

[Prufrock]

this thread is mental.

That they weren't in first class is evidence of what now?! There is not a cat in hell's chance first-class was full on a Saturday evening train back up north. I've seen some shit conspiracy theories in my time, but what, those three had a huff and decided to get a train home together, despite earning feck loads decided to sit in standard for no reason? IIRC they usually get the train for London games, so that in itself isn't particularly weird and cost cutting would mean cheapo tickets. There are a myriad of options, the most likely of which seems to me that, given Sparky is from the midlands, and Baptiste from Mansfield, they needed a different train to the Lostock lot.

And Brucie, I don't know . Comedy of errors as about 6 whites (or oranges) fell over each other.

[gavlat2872]

this thread is mental.

That they weren't in first class is evidence of what now?! There is not a cat in hell's chance first-class was full on a Saturday evening train back up north. I've seen some shit conspiracy theories in my time, but what, those three had a huff and decided to get a train home together, despite earning feck loads decided to sit in standard for no reason? IIRC they usually get the train for London games, so that in itself isn't particularly weird and cost cutting would mean cheapo tickets. There are a myriad of options, the most likely of which seems to me that, given Sparky is from the midlands, and Baptiste from Mansfield, they needed a different train to the Lostock lot.

And Brucie, I don't know . Comedy of errors as about 6 whites (or oranges) fell over each other.

Baptiste holding Bogdan down for the rebound probably didn't help much

[jaffka]

this thread is mental.

That they weren't in first class is evidence of what now?! There is not a cat in hell's chance first-class was full on a Saturday evening train back up north. I've seen some shit conspiracy theories in my time, but what, those three had a huff and decided to get a train home together, despite earning feck loads decided to sit in standard for no reason? IIRC they usually get the train for London games, so that in itself isn't particularly weird and cost cutting would mean cheapo tickets. There are a myriad of options, the most likely of which seems to me that, given Sparky is from the midlands, and Baptiste from Mansfield, they needed a different train to the Lostock lot.

And Brucie, I don't know . Comedy of errors as about 6 whites (or oranges) fell over each other.

Nah, none of the stuff you have put has made me change my mind.

Duggie has shown how shit he is again.

[Prufrock]

I mean fair enough if you want to believe it, but it's not like there aren't enough reasons to be slagging Freedman off with!

Sherlock wouldn't be happy. Once you have eliminated all things which could be true but wouldn't make Dougie look bad, that which remains, however unlikely, must be true.

[BWFC_Insane]

this thread is mental.

That they weren't in first class is evidence of what now?! There is not a cat in hell's chance first-class was full on a Saturday evening train back up north. I've seen some shit conspiracy theories in my time, but what, those three had a huff and decided to get a train home together, despite earning feck loads decided to sit in standard for no reason? IIRC they usually get the train for London games, so that in itself isn't particularly weird and cost cutting would mean cheapo tickets. There are a myriad of options, the most likely of which seems to me that, given Sparky is from the midlands, and Baptiste from Mansfield, they needed a different train to the Lostock lot.

And Brucie, I don't know . Comedy of errors as about 6 whites (or oranges) fell over each other.

This. Players have often travelled home separately. Sordell used to stay down in London after Southern games.

There are literally hundreds of plausible reasons far more likely than a 'bust up'. A scenario in itself that is full of holes.

[bwfcdan94]

Dn't know if this is the right thread, but I was on the 18.40 from Euston to Manchester, as were a number of Bolton fans (I hadn't been to the match - see the Art Debate thread for where I'd been)...

And on the train were Wheater, Baptiste and M Davis... In Bolton trackies, but certainly not travelling home with the rest of the team...

A blow up in the dressing room?

There's probably nothing in that. I met a Forest player after the recent home game vs them and one of his teammates had a flight to catch from Manchester. He left in a taxi by himself before the team bus left. Most likely a legitimate reason.

Bristol Wanderer saw McNaughton after Bournemouth away on the train.

[a1]

How long does it take for you to get to the ground then??

the reebok ? longer than it should do , but not long

the den is miles and miles away

this douglas-geddon shouldnt put people off going if coyle's regime didnt

or megson's

or even the back end of allardyce's

finally giving up now , seems bizarre to me

[William the White]

Dn't know if this is the right thread, but I was on the 18.40 from Euston to Manchester, as were a number of Bolton fans (I hadn't been to the match - see the Art Debate thread for where I'd been)...

And on the train were Wheater, Baptiste and M Davis... In Bolton trackies, but certainly not travelling home with the rest of the team...

A blow up in the dressing room?

How come you didn't just go and ask them, Will?

That's just not something I'd do, Bruce.

[LeverEnd]

I notice Holloway also said how bringing the extra defender on was what they needed as it gave them more time to measure their crosses, basically I suppose more chance to put us under pressure. Nice one Dougie.

[malcd1]

I notice Holloway also said how bringing the extra defender on was what they needed as it gave them more time to measure their crosses, basically I suppose more chance to put us under pressure. Nice one Dougie.

You are quoting Holloway though, who is a prick.

[boltonboris]

Ream once again not doing enough to stop the cross. It's incredible how shit all of our defenders are. It's also incredible how much pressure they're allowed to be put under.

[BWFC_Insane]

Ream once again not doing enough to stop the cross. It's incredible how shit all of our defenders are. It's also incredible how much pressure they're allowed to be put under.

I mean I wasn't there but from that highlight it looks like we got caught on the goddamn break. I mean we had 5 defenders on so why the hell did we seemingly get caught out in that way? I'm no Ream fan but looking at the goal it just looks shit from a team perspective.

If you're bringing Zat on for the last 10 surely it is then criminal to get caught out like that? Surely you defend like the alamo and if they bombard the box and something breaks, well that is shit, but it happens. But to concede like that?

I do sometimes wonder......

[boltonboris]

I think it was a case of the defenders not knowing what the hell each of them were supposed to be doing. Which is frankly, ridiculous. Everyone is out of position. But we've got a supposedly quick defender, who has just absolutely conceded that the bloke will cross it and there's fvck all he can do about it, which is wrong. Be aggressive, get tight, force the man to work as hard as he possibly can to get the ball into the box.. even drag him down FFS. Anything but let that ball slip across the face of the goal.

[jaffka]

Who was it years ago on here trying to bullshit that letting the opposition cross the ball was good and part of the game plan because they no longer had full possession of the ball?

[BWFC_Insane]

I think it was a case of the defenders not knowing what the hell each of them were supposed to be doing. Which is frankly, ridiculous. Everyone is out of position. But we've got a supposedly quick defender, who has just absolutely conceded that the bloke will cross it and there's fvck all he can do about it, which is wrong. Be aggressive, get tight, force the man to work as hard as he possibly can to get the ball into the box.. even drag him down FFS. Anything but let that ball slip across the face of the goal.

I just think if you've got 5 defenders on trying to see out a game, you defend your box. It just looks like we got caught high up the pitch.....

[Lord Kangana]

I just think if you've got five defenders and 2 defensive midfielders, at 1-0 up away you invite pressure. With no outlet to relieve pressure. That's where good management comes in, setting out a team with balance.

[BWFC_Insane]

I just think if you've got five defenders and 2 defensive midfielders, at 1-0 up away you invite pressure. With no outlet to relieve pressure. That's where good management comes in, setting out a team with balance.

That goal doesn't look like it arrived from pressure looks more like they just caught us on the break.

I mean Allardyce wasn't averse to the old "camp in your own box" trick to see out games. I mean the problem is twofold, one that we don't have capable defenders and two that having brought Knight on, looking at their second I just can't fecking believe we weren't just defending our 18 yard box for our lives......

[Bruce Rioja]

But Douglas said 18 months ago about our players' inability to see a game out and how he was here to show them how to do that. The bloke's just full of shit.