The ianevattable sacking

[Bertie Wooster]

Another rumour is that its possibly the performance analyst who is the other member of the backroom staff to go.

[BWFC_Insane]

I see Alan Nixon had headlined his story as ‘Bolton make backroom boy scapegoat’

Which is exactly what’s happened. No doubt the Bolton news will continue to be too scared to do anything critical.

This is an absolutely disgraceful decision and I want evatt out regardless of any results. He’s got to go full stop.

[Worthy4England]

Another rumour is that its possibly the performance analyst who is the other member of the backroom staff to go.

Think that was one quoted in BN.

[officer_dibble]

I see Alan Nixon had headlined his story as ‘Bolton make backroom boy scapegoat’

Which is exactly what’s happened. No doubt the Bolton news will continue to be too scared to do anything critical.

This is an absolutely disgraceful decision and I want evatt out regardless of any results. He’s got to go full stop.

I think Iles let loose a bit this weekend to be fair - nothings changed since Wembley. I’d say he expected a sacking today.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Blaming a coach you recently hired, having seen them in action as your B team manager and acting 1st team coach, is a bit like spending money on Dan after what can only be described as a shit 6 month loan.

This is a very pertinent comparison which dials into the stubbornness Evatt is often accused of (like many managers, to be fair - you need it to get by).

The coach has been getting the message across in training for the last couple of years presumably (given he was given it after being in the club for some time)?

He joined Wanderers in September 2021 as Head of Coaching - he'd previously been at the FA and PNE. In June 2022 he took over the B team. When first team coach Sam Hird left in October 2023 he stepped in as interim replacement while we assessed "some excellent applications... this certainly hasn't just been the easy option" said Evatt, on making Craddock permanent FTC a month later.

So yeah. He's been an increasingly important part of Evatt's plans for three years, with two personal promotions. It's possible he's Peter Principled himelf into a station above his ideas, but it's also possible Evatt slapped him on the back and then stabbed him in it.

They need to be lining up a replacement ready for the ianevattable.

Problem here is that the available candidates change all the time. Schumacher won't avoid other jobs waiting for a call from a team below his current level. Those youthful coaches who might step up will have other chances to do so between now and... when? What is Sharon's timescale now for what would have to be very significant improvement? How much is she to be swayed by a baying crowd?

Evatt's said a few times he might not have survived his first half-season if it weren't behind closed doors. I think he might be about to find out how tough it is to have thousands of people shouting at you.

[TonyDomingos]

I see Alan Nixon had headlined his story as ‘Bolton make backroom boy scapegoat’

Which is exactly what’s happened. No doubt the Bolton news will continue to be too scared to do anything critical.

This is an absolutely disgraceful decision and I want evatt out regardless of any results. He’s got to go full stop.

I think Iles let loose a bit this weekend to be fair - nothings changed since Wembley. I’d say he expected a sacking today.

And he's got two from what I can gather!

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

They need to be lining up a replacement ready for the ianevattable.

Problem here is that the available candidates change all the time. Schumacher won't avoid other jobs waiting for a call from a team below his current level. Those youthful coaches who might step up will have other chances to do so between now and... when? What is Sharon's timescale now for what would have to be very significant improvement? How much is she to be swayed by a baying crowd?

I was more hoping line Schumacher up over the next week or so then pot him. I say Schuey as from the lists on here he strikes me as the best. Whether he'd want to come is another matter, but I'd be asking the question rather than wait for a few toxic weeks.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I was more hoping line Schumacher up over the next week or so then pot him. I say Schuey as from the lists on here he strikes me as the best. Whether he'd want to come is another matter, but I'd be asking the question rather than wait for a few toxic weeks.

Agree it would be foolish not to sound him out. It's what happens in football. Schuey himself has just been sacked - by Jonathan Walters, formerly of this parish, now their sporting director, who seems to have already lined up a 36-year-old called Narcis Pelach, a coach at Norwich. That was a very quick decision if they waited until wiping their eyes over waving Schuey off, wasn't it?

[BWFC_Insane]

I was more hoping line Schumacher up over the next week or so then pot him. I say Schuey as from the lists on here he strikes me as the best. Whether he'd want to come is another matter, but I'd be asking the question rather than wait for a few toxic weeks.

Agree it would be foolish not to sound him out. It's what happens in football. Schuey himself has just been sacked - by Jonathan Walters, formerly of this parish, now their sporting director, who seems to have already lined up a 36-year-old called Narcis Pelach, a coach at Norwich. That was a very quick decision if they waited until wiping their eyes over waving Schuey off, wasn't it?

Why was Schumacher sacked? Seems to have done ok there.

Didn’t realise he’s only 40 too. Seems an ideal candidate for us in more ways than one.

[The_Gun]

If he were attainable then yeah, Schumacher would be great. However, as discussed on the other thread, he’s probably going not going to be short of Championship offers over the coming months. He’d also have been on maybe treble the money we’d be able to pay him.

[boltonboris]

I think it's got to a point where Evatt and his team need to go AND the captaincy has to be given to someone else as well. Santos has never been captain material.

He tried passing the captaincy on this weekend, but missed and gave it to a Huddersfield player

[Bertie Wooster]

“I have said the minute we lost that final, I felt in and out of the club a huge negative energy,” he said. “Everyone was just traumatised by it. “We have come back and I think there has been a huge amount of negativity towards me, towards the players, and we can’t seem to shift and change it. “The way we play is built around confidence and at the minute we have zero. So, yes, that is the truth. I don’t know what else to say to you.”

And todays decision by the owners changes what exactly ?, it just means the negativity towards him will increase much more. Owners putting their heads in the sand & fingers in their ears just hoping & hoping that we win against Reading, because they are as clueless as the manager.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Why was Schumacher sacked? Seems to have done ok there.

Didn’t realise he’s only 40 too. Seems an ideal candidate for us in more ways than one.

Stoke are now hiring their seventh manager in six years, so I'd suggest it's a systemic thing. Since relegation in 2018 they've finished 16th, 15th, 14th, 14th, 16th and 17th. They're currently 13th.

If he were attainable then yeah, Schumacher would be great. However, as discussed on the other thread, he’s probably going not going to be short of Championship offers over the coming months. He’d also have been on maybe treble the money we’d be able to pay him.

We only find out if he's attainable by asking. I'm not sure Championship teams will be beating down his door (although League One clubs might).

Stoke may have deep pockets – certainly their owners the Coates family do, filled via the misery of gambling (they also own Bet365) – but I'm not sure the differential in managerial wages is anything like that with players. And as I say I think Schumacher may fancy the idea of promoting an underachiever with headroom rathe than scratching an existence with, I dunno, Cardiff or jumping into the lava pool that it Sheffield Wednesday.

He might be out of reach. He might be a knobhead, for all I know. But we should be sniffing around.

[Worthy4England]

I think it's got to a point where Evatt and his team need to go AND the captaincy has to be given to someone else as well. Santos has never been captain material.

He tried passing the captaincy on this weekend, but missed and gave it to a Huddersfield player

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Sharon's adviser:

[BWFC_Insane]

Sharon's adviser:

Ooof. Big Mick. Proper manager.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

#properfootballman you mean

this meme is regularly used at work but seems suitable for the club now

unlike, say, Mick

[BWFC_Insane]

#properfootballman you mean

this meme is regularly used at work but seems suitable for the club now

unlike, say, Mick

Even id draw the line at Big Mick. Though I’d take him over Evatt any day.

Be an amazing session to see what he did with Santos.

[irie Cee Bee]

What a horrible decision. He blames Coleman then he now blames the coaches he brought in and also the analyst. Then praises himself as if we are lucky to have him, and if he could get us all fired he would because we have created the toxic environment. Makes me wonder whats going on with him and Sharon. I really do believe that we are now in a relegation fight.

[GhostoftheBok]

Like I said, it didn't feel like there had been a major change yesterday.

If he's staying then it becomes about how he turns it around.

He's lucky to survive that performance. I'll look forward to vast improvement on Saturday.