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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:05 pm

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Tombwfc wrote:I think I'm in a minority of one, but I still think Steinsson is our best right back. Or at least, not noticeably worse than the rest. In any case, him being relegated to 7th choice led to both Wheater and Reo-Coker playing out of position, so for that alone it was a shit decision.
Sure we've done this one before' you're not in a minority of 1.

He's adequate certainly.
I've heard that Steinssons issues are not physical ones....

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Post by Wandering Willy » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:22 pm

Prufrock wrote:Leaving him on the bench does not suggest he was injured. Leaving him out of the squad altogether might suggest he was injured, leaving him on the bench suggests he didn't think he was part of the best team. It is possible he was injured, but it certainly doesn't suggest that. It is far more likely he just wasn't picked.

As for the idea he was only half fit, well why then didn't he stick him on straight after Wheater got sent off. And if it is because he really wasn't fit, and was there as a desperate last gasp option, why DID he put him on when Reo-Coker went off and we were a goal down? Surely a go for broke stick another body up top option would have been better, especially since when Steinsson did come on we basically played as a right winger. And, if it is because he was a last gasp option, why not put £2.5m, fully fit Alonso on the bench then, given he has shown he will when pushed play Robinson at RB? All the evidence to me points towards Steinsson fit, but deemed not good enough, which IMO is stupid. He isn't that bad. Certainly better RB than Wheater, and CERTAINLY a better option than Wheater playing RB AND Knight at CB.

Lot of possibles and suggestions. I'm sure there were reasons for the decision that we're not privy to, other than he's clueless.

I think we're flogging different halves of the same dead horse. :)
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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:41 pm

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Tombwfc wrote:I think I'm in a minority of one, but I still think Steinsson is our best right back. Or at least, not noticeably worse than the rest. In any case, him being relegated to 7th choice led to both Wheater and Reo-Coker playing out of position, so for that alone it was a shit decision.
Sure we've done this one before' you're not in a minority of 1.

He's adequate certainly.
I've heard that Steinssons issues are not physical ones....
Me too, but then I can't understand him being on the bench.

It all just seems a bit strange.

Either way, we can argue the granularity of whether Alonso was 1.8m or 2.2m, but I don't believe that Gartside and Eddie Davies bought Coyle in with any intention of going into the Championship as an option. Based on that belief, I think they'll pull the trigger at some point if things don't buck up.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:47 pm

Yes and no. Their ability to find another manager at such short notice who is willing to operate on such a small budget and meet the target you have set might be the elephant in the room. Of course, we could just get Peter Reid.
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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:55 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Yes and no. Their ability to find another manager at such short notice who is willing to operate on such a small budget and meet the target you have set might be the elephant in the room. Of course, we could just get Peter Reid.
It might, but as I said, I don't believe they'll sit idly by and not try and shake things up.

I have set no targets, I'd be surprised if they hadn't. Gartside and Coyle, have previously talked in terms of targets being to improve league position.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:56 pm

The target being not The Championship.
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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:59 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:The target being not The Championship.

I think that would be a fair summation.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:01 pm

Yours, that is.

I'm not entirely sure what goes on in our boardroom. The discussion may very well have turned to "can he get us back up? cos we've got cock-all left to get anyone else in".
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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:20 pm

The direction of the Boardroom may have changed but if I believed that, I wouldn't have written:
but I don't believe that Gartside and Eddie Davies bought Coyle in with any intention of going into the Championship as an option. Based on that belief, I think they'll pull the trigger at some point if things don't buck up.
Would I?

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Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:23 pm

I'm not saying that you do. I'm pointing out that they may very well not. Imagine the you's and they's in italics, I can't be arsed pressing full editor.
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