The "Nothing to see here"Transfer thread

[Lord Kangana]

Did we really sign him on a 3 year deal last year?

... well. when you say "we" ... Mr Coyle did.

You know, the more you look the more it seems he was an agent set out on the task of fckg us over.

Depends how involved Coyle was in the negotiations. When it comes down to it, Phil G signed last summer's cheques – for Andrews, Knight, Ricketts and Mills, four players who were hardly in strong bargaining positions. Coyle may have said "I don't care if you have to smash the wage structure and sell the West Stand, get me their signatures" but it seems unlikely.

I've a lot of respect for PG - a model chairman compared to some in our past and other clubs' presents - but someone, somewhere, seems to have made some very bad calls last summer, and far all his faults I don't think we can cane Coyle alone for wage negotiations.

I find it a point of interest that the big spending ( in relative terms, we're not in the Djorkaeff or Elmander territory anymore) switched from transfer outlay to wage bill (or seemingly did). Is there something in, say, FFP that favours one or the other and is beneficial to the club in the short term? Or is there an accounting principle that places one in a more 'manageable' sphere than the other? Or simply a change of approach?

Its certainly a discussion that warrants more than glib dismissal of one man.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

It does warrant further, sensible discussion.

Worth noting that Mills wasn't exactly cheap fee-wise, either.

[Lord Kangana]

I think his fee was based on the amount Leicester themselves had paid. In hindsight, I can't think the system Coyle played has helped him settle at this club - who knows, maybe he'll do better at Leeds? The idea was right, tough centre half with plenty of experience of this league. Really hasn't worked out that way, and it'd probably best for both parties to get a fresh start.

[CrazyHorse]

Anton Ferdinand is superb if we could afford his wages we should snap him up in a heart beat he is far to good for QPR.

Aye reet.

[BWFC_Insane]

Did we really sign him on a 3 year deal last year?

... well. when you say "we" ... Mr Coyle did.

You know, the more you look the more it seems he was an agent set out on the task of fckg us over.

Depends how involved Coyle was in the negotiations. When it comes down to it, Phil G signed last summer's cheques – for Andrews, Knight, Ricketts and Mills, four players who were hardly in strong bargaining positions. Coyle may have said "I don't care if you have to smash the wage structure and sell the West Stand, get me their signatures" but it seems unlikely.

I've a lot of respect for PG - a model chairman compared to some in our past and other clubs' presents - but someone, somewhere, seems to have made some very bad calls last summer, and far all his faults I don't think we can cane Coyle alone for wage negotiations.

I find it a point of interest that the big spending ( in relative terms, we're not in the Djorkaeff or Elmander territory anymore) switched from transfer outlay to wage bill (or seemingly did). Is there something in, say, FFP that favours one or the other and is beneficial to the club in the short term? Or is there an accounting principle that places one in a more 'manageable' sphere than the other? Or simply a change of approach?

Its certainly a discussion that warrants more than glib dismissal of one man.

FFP is about the losses at financial year end as far as I understand.

So don't see wages being advantageous there. Perhaps Eddie prefers spreading the costs out rather than up front. Though all transfers seem to be paid in installments nowadays.

[Bruce Rioja]

It's not that easy to read 'RTFT' as other than offensive to be honest.

It's neither offensive nor inoffensive to those of us that don't know what the fecking Dickens you're on about. RTFT?

[Little Green Man]

It's not that easy to read 'RTFT' as other than offensive to be honest.

It's neither offensive nor inoffensive to those of us that don't know what the fecking Dickens you're on about. RTFT?

RTFL

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[Bruce Rioja]

It's not that easy to read 'RTFT' as other than offensive to be honest.

It's neither offensive nor inoffensive to those of us that don't know what the fecking Dickens you're on about. RTFT?

RTFL

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rtft

Ah, cheers Greeny. Yeah Bobo - RTFT

[bobo the clown]

Our situation, our turnover and the FFP means we need to take players who have a sell-on value. Youri, Hierro etc. did not. Marvellous as it was to see them playing for us the money spent was 'dead money'.

Letting valuable players run down their contracts may be rarer also.

Dougie's policy of getting them young means there'll be more opportunity to get a return. That'll p us off as well as we'll be selling players who we rate and appear to have a future at a higher level. That, however, will be how we survive for a while.

[Enoch]

I wouldn't argue against Anton Ferdinand improving our squad, I'm much more likely to ROFL!

Out of interest, why would his wages be beyond lowly BWFC, the c*nt's unemployed!!

[Bruce Rioja]

I wouldn't argue against Anton Ferdinand improving our squad, I'm much more likely to ROFL!

Out of interest, why would his wages be beyond lowly BWFC, the c*nt's unemployed!!

Exactly. Though Owen Coyle didn't seem to grasp this concept when Zat Knight decided to see how many other clubs might come in for him.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I wouldn't argue against Anton Ferdinand improving our squad, I'm much more likely to ROFL! Out of interest, why would his wages be beyond lowly BWFC, the c*nt's unemployed!!

Exactly. Though Owen Coyle didn't seem to grasp this concept when Zat Knight decided to see how many other clubs might come in for him.

Again: Coyle or Gartside?

[Enoch]

I wouldn't argue against Anton Ferdinand improving our squad, I'm much more likely to ROFL!

Out of interest, why would his wages be beyond lowly BWFC, the c*nt's unemployed!!

Exactly. Though Owen Coyle didn't seem to grasp this concept when Zat Knight decided to see how many other clubs might come in for him.

I get your drift, but the vagaries of Coyle's misdemeanours are in the past, thankfully!

One day, I imagine we will sign his replacement. Until such time he's what we've got and I don't see Ferdinand as an improvement!

Honest!!!

[malcd1]

Maybe I'm too sensitive.

[bobo the clown]

Maybe I'm too sensitive.

What ? What ???

[Bruce Rioja]

I wouldn't argue against Anton Ferdinand improving our squad, I'm much more likely to ROFL! Out of interest, why would his wages be beyond lowly BWFC, the c*nt's unemployed!!

Exactly. Though Owen Coyle didn't seem to grasp this concept when Zat Knight decided to see how many other clubs might come in for him.

Again: Coyle or Gartside?

You tell me? What about Eddie?

[Loyal White]

Not a fan of Anton being honest.

I'd love Dawson back, I know he wants to come back here. Just whether we could sort something on the financials.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I wouldn't argue against Anton Ferdinand improving our squad, I'm much more likely to ROFL! Out of interest, why would his wages be beyond lowly BWFC, the c*nt's unemployed!!

Exactly. Though Owen Coyle didn't seem to grasp this concept when Zat Knight decided to see how many other clubs might come in for him.

Again: Coyle or Gartside?

You tell me? What about Eddie?

I don't know, m'friend. It's Eddie's chequebook but I doubt he's in the room negotiating. I always got the impression that Gartside did the negotiation with the other club, then the agent/s. Obviously he'll be working within parameters and feeding back, to his manager and owner... but I do get the impression that our man gets a little overeager at times...

[Lord Kangana]

I know that Eddie Davies was the one who put his foot down over Elmander's contract extension. I believe that Coyle was interested in him staying longer, Davies wasn't prepared to renew unless he took a wage cut.

[Loyal White]

Not a fan of Anton being honest.

I'd love Dawson back, I know he wants to come back here. Just whether we could sort something on the financials.

Hasn't it long been rumoured that he wants to move back to the North West anyway? I think the main two problems are the fee, as you mentioned, and that he has publicly said he'd prefer PL action.

His main motivation is to find somewhere who wants him, he doesnt think Clarke rates him. Of course he'd like Premierleague football but he loved his time here and given the opportunity he'd jump at the chance to come back in my opinion.