Time to go

[Worthy4England]

The way our team is organised and set-up to play isn't anything to do with spending power or who would come to us or anything else other than how OC lines them up to play.

It within what we currently have available to us, to change the way we are organised, and actually look organised.

If we're then not good enough, because we haven't spent enough etc. that's a different point, and OC would have some of my sympathy.

At the minute, I can't get past what a fecking disorganised shower of shite we look defensively, the number of times we concede a goal, then in some sort of buy one, get one free offer, give the opposition a second goal within a short space of time.

I wonder what we'd look like if we showed any sort of organisational nous akin to a Premiership team...

[BWFC_Insane]

The way our team is organised and set-up to play isn't anything to do with spending power or who would come to us or anything else other than how OC lines them up to play.

It within what we currently have available to us, to change the way we are organised, and actually look organised.

If we're then not good enough, because we haven't spent enough etc. that's a different point, and OC would have some of my sympathy.

At the minute, I can't get past what a fecking disorganised shower of shite we look defensively, the number of times we concede a goal, then in some sort of buy one, get one free offer, give the opposition a second goal within a short space of time.

I wonder what we'd look like if we showed any sort of organisational nous akin to a Premiership team...

Amen!

And not just defensive organisation! Our attacking set pieces are very poor!

[Hoboh]

We don't move and provide support when we have the ball, we don't move and provide support when we don't have the ball!
Holden provided the "Paul Scholes" roll (even if Scholes couldn't tackle he got in the way and when the ball was won back he calmed things with simple passes then went offencive) We now have no one nor had start of season Coyle should have seen it, simples!

[Gary the Enfield]

The way our team is organised and set-up to play isn't anything to do with spending power or who would come to us or anything else other than how OC lines them up to play.

It within what we currently have available to us, to change the way we are organised, and actually look organised.

If we're then not good enough, because we haven't spent enough etc. that's a different point, and OC would have some of my sympathy.

At the minute, I can't get past what a fecking disorganised shower of shite we look defensively, the number of times we concede a goal, then in some sort of buy one, get one free offer, give the opposition a second goal within a short space of time.

I wonder what we'd look like if we showed any sort of organisational nous akin to a Premiership team...

Amen!

And not just defensive organisation! Our attacking set pieces are very poor!

And yet, as pointed out in another thread, we ar still managing to score goals. The defence is the problem which needs IMMEDIATE improvement.

[Hoboh]

The way our team is organised and set-up to play isn't anything to do with spending power or who would come to us or anything else other than how OC lines them up to play.

It within what we currently have available to us, to change the way we are organised, and actually look organised.

If we're then not good enough, because we haven't spent enough etc. that's a different point, and OC would have some of my sympathy.

At the minute, I can't get past what a fecking disorganised shower of shite we look defensively, the number of times we concede a goal, then in some sort of buy one, get one free offer, give the opposition a second goal within a short space of time.

I wonder what we'd look like if we showed any sort of organisational nous akin to a Premiership team...

Amen!

And not just defensive organisation! Our attacking set pieces are very poor!

And yet, as pointed out in another thread, we ar still managing to score goals. The defence is the problem which needs IMMEDIATE improvement.

Its in the middle, no support and no out lay to relieve pressure, granted our full backs are below standard too

[CAPSLOCK]

And yet, as pointed out in another thread, we ar still managing to score goals. The defence is the problem which needs IMMEDIATE improvement.

Are we?

Take out the 4 at QPR and its abit slow on the goals front, isn't it?

A goal a game in the last 9

[Gary the Enfield]

And yet, as pointed out in another thread, we ar still managing to score goals. The defence is the problem which needs IMMEDIATE improvement.

Are we?

Take out the 4 at QPR and its abit slow on the goals front, isn't it?

A goal a game in the last 9

Take out the three against Wigan and we really ARE screwed.

[Worthy4England]

And yet, as pointed out in another thread, we ar still managing to score goals. The defence is the problem which needs IMMEDIATE improvement.

Are we?

Take out the 4 at QPR and its abit slow on the goals front, isn't it?

A goal a game in the last 9

Take out the three against Wigan and we really ARE screwed.

I think I can see both sides of where you're coming from on this, but you have to contextualise against what the other side has done in the same match. Us scoring three a game is no good in matches where we concede 4 a game.

4 against QPR was not required - 1 would have secured the points (in the event). 2 would have sufficed against Wigan.

Us scoring 3 by going "gung-ho" but allowing 4 in at the other end because we've forgotten to defend, doesn't help us.

So for me it's sort out the defence, to get the opposition down to one or two, then work out our game plan to try and enable us to get one or two, WITHOUT throwing 4 forwards/attacking midfielders on.

[thebish]

And yet, as pointed out in another thread, we ar still managing to score goals. The defence is the problem which needs IMMEDIATE improvement.

Are we?

Take out the 4 at QPR and its abit slow on the goals front, isn't it?

A goal a game in the last 9

Take out the three against Wigan and we really ARE screwed.

yeah - take out all the goals we have scored and we haven't scored a goal - point proved!

[boltonboris]

Take out all the goals we've conceded and our defence would look ace

[thebish]

suddenly it all looks a whole lot better!

[Gravedigger]

If we took out all the goals scored and all the goals conceded we'd have drawn every game. Extrapolated to season end would maybe give us enough points to avoid relegation.

[jaffka]

and we all lived happily ever after

[FaninOz]

We can't change the past, irrespective of how many goals we have scored or let in. The future is all that matters and unless Coyle can select a winning team that is motivated to play together and to win games we are "up the creek without a paddle".

Based on his managment performance so far, and I know that's history now, I have no confidenec that he has the ability or the skill or the motivational abilities to turn the team around.

The players may or may not be good enough but if they can't be motivated to try and they don't demonstrate a will to justify wearing the Bolton shirt then we are definitely doooooooooooooooomed!!

And, fans like me who live abroad wont be able to watch them play anymore from next May onwards, mind that may be a blessing in disguise!!

[BL3]

Based on his managment performance so far, and I know that's history now, I have no confidenec that he has the ability or the skill or the motivational abilities to turn the team around.

Must have been a different Owen Coyle that kept us in the top half of the league for most of last season and took us to an F.A. Cup semi-final then.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Based on his managment performance so far, and I know that's history now, I have no confidenec that he has the ability or the skill or the motivational abilities to turn the team around.

Must have been a different Owen Coyle that kept us in the top half of the league for most of last season and took us to an F.A. Cup semi-final then.

I think it was. That one was running on momentum. This one's pinned by inertia.

[BWFC_Insane]

Based on his managment performance so far, and I know that's history now, I have no confidenec that he has the ability or the skill or the motivational abilities to turn the team around.

Must have been a different Owen Coyle that kept us in the top half of the league for most of last season and took us to an F.A. Cup semi-final then.

That Owen Coyle, came in raised the atomosphere, put a smile on peoples faces and got decent players playing.

Sadly the charactersitics required then seem different to now.

We're now seeing the Owen Coyle that has built a team and needs to figure out how to organise it into some sort of a cohesive shape. How to recover from a dismal spell and how to fix some very serious issues that have presented themselves.

[cecil.bob]

"People forget that when I came into the job we were second from bottom," Coyle said.

Sound vaguely familiar....

[Prufrock]

Based on his managment performance so far, and I know that's history now, I have no confidenec that he has the ability or the skill or the motivational abilities to turn the team around.

Must have been a different Owen Coyle that kept us in the top half of the league for most of last season and took us to an F.A. Cup semi-final then.

That Owen Coyle, came in raised the atomosphere, put a smile on peoples faces and got decent players playing.

Sadly the charactersitics required then seem different to now.

We're now seeing the Owen Coyle that has built a team and needs to figure out how to organise it into some sort of a cohesive shape. How to recover from a dismal spell and how to fix some very serious issues that have presented themselves.

Not going to happen, not from Coyley any way. His career so far is based entirely on force of personality. Which is a good characteristic, but somebody needs to have a word about the other things.

[FaninOz]

Based on his managment performance so far, and I know that's history now, I have no confidenec that he has the ability or the skill or the motivational abilities to turn the team around.

Must have been a different Owen Coyle that kept us in the top half of the league for most of last season and took us to an F.A. Cup semi-final then.

Unfortunately yes it is, just like he was at Burnley he has been found out and as soon as his team starts to fail he doesn't seem to know what to do about it or how to motivate the players to play out of the bad patch.

Its easy to manage a team on the up but much more difficult, as he is finding out, to manage a team on the down.