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Re: away to birmingham

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:40 am

I'm better than him.

Slow, no ball control, can't shoot, no power in headed shots, gives ball away 90% of the time. He dictates the way we play - which is the wrong way to play.

Has been very poor for 2 seasons or more - I would never have re-signed him in the summer. We need to build a team for the future not around a 35 year old has been/nearly was.
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:48 am

Wandering Willy wrote:I'm better than him.

Slow, no ball control, can't shoot, no power in headed shots, gives ball away 90% of the time. He dictates the way we play - which is the wrong way to play.

Has been very poor for 2 seasons or more - I would never have re-signed him in the summer. We need to build a team for the future not around a 35 year old has been/nearly was.
Take his goal against Watford, not easy, neat finish.

I take the point about "dictating how we play".

But this season he's been nowhere near as bad as you're saying, IMO at least. And I'm not in the TD, Kevin Davies can do no wrong club. Ask TD yourself, he thinks I'm the exact opposite.

I'm just not entirely sure your being fair. Or even close to accurate, this season at least.

Notts Forest, KD two assists for the goals we scored.

Derby, scored the crucial opening goal.

Watford, scored the, ultimately winning goal.

Decent contribution there for me. Certainly can't see how on that basis, NGog, Sordell, Afobe could necessarily be described as "deserving a place ahead of him".

You're probably right about retaining him, it probably wasn't the best idea. Equally I'm not sure we're close to replacing what he offers, at this level at least!

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Re: away to birmingham

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:53 am

Scoring a couple of goals in the Championship does not suddenly make KD super.

No good a the one in 4-5-1, and as one of the two in a 4-4-2, well look where we are.

IT'S NOT WORKING.

Time to use what else we have and work on new playing partnerships. Unless of course he's going to be around for another few years.
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:55 am

Wandering Willy wrote:Scoring a couple of goals in the Championship does not suddenly make KD super.

No good a the one in 4-5-1, and as one of the two in a 4-4-2, well look where we are.

IT'S NOT WORKING.

Time to use what else we have and work on new playing partnerships. Unless of course he's going to be around for another few years.
Its fine saying that, but my point being the rest we've got, don't look like creating or scoring to the same level.......

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Re: away to birmingham

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:02 am

Sordell's started 3, played about a 3rd of the time KD has and scored 1 to Davies's 2.

We haven't had the opportunity to see the other forwards play together for any length of time to see if it will work or not.

My belief is it will be much better - can't prove this though.

I'll repeat - What we're doing now is not working.
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:04 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wandering Willy wrote:Scoring a couple of goals in the Championship does not suddenly make KD super.

No good a the one in 4-5-1, and as one of the two in a 4-4-2, well look where we are.

IT'S NOT WORKING.

Time to use what else we have and work on new playing partnerships. Unless of course he's going to be around for another few years.
Its fine saying that, but my point being the rest we've got, don't look like creating or scoring to the same level.......
They've not been tried, have Sordell and Afobe been in some secret partnership I've not heard about?
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:05 am

What, like a gayer thing?
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:06 am

Wandering Willy wrote:Sordell's started 3, played about a 3rd of the time KD has and scored 1 to Davies's 2.

We haven't had the opportunity to see the other forwards play together for any length of time to see if it will work or not.

My belief is it will be much better - can't prove this though.

I'll repeat - What we're doing now is not working.
Not doubting that, but our problems are not really that KD is playing IMO, and more that as a team we are shambolically organised and can't stop the other side from scoring.

I don't think KD being in or out at this stage makes a massive difference to the major issues.

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Re: away to birmingham

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:06 am

Wandering Willy wrote:What, like a gayer thing?
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:07 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
I don't think KD being in or out at this stage makes a massive difference to the major issues.
Fixed that for yer. :mrgreen:
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:55 am

442,451 KD upfront on his own Eagles playing in the hole :shock: Petrov playing in goal it's all irrelevant while this nice person is in charge

The players simply don't want to play for him it's gone it's the end it's finito

I not gonna criticize the players further until i see them play under a manager who knows how to manage who you know can actually organize a defense and get the back to basics

I hope we get annihilated on Saturday and hopefully ( not holding my breath ) that he get's the sack

Don't wish ill of Coyle but even he must know it's over and if he loves the club as much as he claims he should just quit
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by boltonboris » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:44 am

Each to their own, but I'd never want us to lose a game.. Regardless of what happens after it.
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:20 pm

boltonboris wrote:Each to their own, but I'd never want us to lose a game.. Regardless of what happens after it.

Well I do because if he wins the next 1 he's probably bought himself 2 or 3 games he'll lose two and then win one and so on

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Re: away to birmingham

Post by Il Pirate » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:42 pm

defense



Defence. No more more argument.

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Re: away to birmingham

Post by bwfcdan94 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:40 am

after calming down from the anger of seeing us put in another weak performance with premier league players who have no confidence because of his pure lack of tactical knowledge i have come to this conclusion. coyle should be on a tight rope we are languising near the bottem of the table i hope we loose today in the hope he will do the right thing come monday and resign before garty gives him the push when we get relegated in april.coyle out
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:39 am

The number of times last Saturday that NGog got the ball in behind their defence was impressive. But ultimately pointless if his partner is 40 yards behind.
Lets at least see whether having some pace playing off him brings better results
Might even be done in time to avoid the last of the 4 million investment in sorrel running down the drain
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:40 am

CAPSLOCK wrote:The number of times last Saturday that NGog got the ball in behind their defence was impressive. But ultimately pointless if his partner is 40 yards behind.
Lets at least see whether having some pace playing off him brings better results
Might even be done in time to avoid the last of the 4 million investment in sorrel running down the drain
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by bwfcdan94 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:40 am

beni afobe and ngog are the best combination assuming coyle is stern enough to play 4-4-2 despite whatever anyone else thinks
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by plymouth wanderer » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:17 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:beni afobe and ngog are the best combination assuming coyle is stern enough to play 4-4-2 despite whatever anyone else thinks

How the fvck you come to these conclusions

I don't know
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Re: away to birmingham

Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:07 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:beni afobe and ngog are the best combination assuming coyle is stern enough to play 4-4-2 despite whatever anyone else thinks
Thats turning rose-tinted into rainbow. What evidence backs that wild assumption?
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