Pre Season Friendlies

[Worthy4England]

Not convinced. There's still a fairly big TV revenue gap between Chumps and L1. Theoretically squad value would increase too (so intangible assets adding "value")...dunno it adds up to a "plan" to keep the Club in L1...

[Hoboh]

Even by your high standards that's pretty stupid.

Is it?

Where's Kens investments?

Has he got the money to pay off the former owner when he apparently is struggling to find any cash now?

Toddle off, school reopens in a few weeks.

[Hoboh]

Not convinced. There's still a fairly big TV revenue gap between Chumps and L1. Theoretically squad value would increase too (so intangible assets adding "value")...dunno it adds up to a "plan" to keep the Club in L1...

A bunch of 30 something journey men won't add up to a can of beans tbh and I doubt TV revenue will cover the cash owed for success.

I'm not saying it's totally on the money, but something is not right at the club, Holdsworth's heart was in the right place, maybe he wasn't prepared to go down that route?

Summats not reet.

[Worthy4England]

Ahhh sommat not reet, I can live with. I don't trust Anderson. I think on player value, you might be confusing "real world" with book value. Our squad "value" lost about £50m iirc when we got relegated from the Prem...

[Hoboh]

Ahhh sommat not reet, I can live with. I don't trust Anderson. I think on player value, you might be confusing "real world" with book value. Our squad "value" lost about £50m iirc when we got relegated from the Prem...

Real world, at real world prices, is the only thing that would buy our club

[BWFC_Insane]

Anderson isn't Eddie Davies. He will have an exit plan. I suspect that plan must involve having us financially stable in the championship. That would make us more attractive for buyers. And KA would presumably make a nice tidy profit on initially low investment.

In theory at least. Beyond that hard to see what is in it for Ken. Especially given he's been trying to buy assets back rather than sell more.

Hope his plan can be executed better than the previous owner.

[Worthy4England]

I'll be delighted if his plan gets us to 6th in the Prem and into Europe.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'll be delighted if his plan gets us to 6th in the Prem and into Europe.

I meant more the exit plan. Can't see Ken fancying supporting us for a long time. So getting the club closer to premiership riches and more attractive for a buyer has to be his thinking. Easy to say....

[bobo the clown]

... He will have an exit plan .... that plan must involve having us financially stable in the championship. That would make us more attractive for buyers. And KA would presumably make a nice tidy profit on initially low investment.

... & a perfectly reasonable plan that would be.

[Tombwfc]

It seems really optimistic to me for anyone to have an exit plan that involves selling us on in the next few years. It took years for the last bloke to find anyone interested, and he ended up giving it away to folk who have no money.

[BWFC_Insane]

It seems really optimistic to me for anyone to have an exit plan that involves selling us on in the next few years. It took years for the last bloke to find anyone interested, and he ended up giving it away to folk who have no money.

Big difference is when times were good and the club might have had suitors, Eddie had already sunk a lot of money in, so any sale would have been an expensive affair for the buyer.

Ken, can if things go well, make a profit more easily here. Not saying that is easy, but I mean he's not putting in anywhere close to what Eddie did. So if things do go well, he will probably be able to sell and make a profit without us being that expensive. Also we would be, hopefully more stable without the debt attached to the business. In theory.

Also if we are in the championship any investor would know that clubs in the premiership are now turning profits so presumably would make a stable championship club more attractive.

Fair way to go to get near that, but as I can see it, it is the only plan that makes any sense for KA. And it would as Bobo says do us nicely if that plan could be achieved.

[Bijou Bob]

The Championship will be a different animal from this season on. Huge parachute payments and the temptation of a season at the top table, with potentially several hundred million up for grabs, will tempt a lot of owners into investment I suspect. Even if we were to get ourselves promoted this season, which by my reckoning will be a longish shot- albeit doable, I'm not sure how well we'd be able to compete in the Championship and survive, let alone prosper, without spending a shed load of money.

[Hoboh]

Sign of the times?

Hull City, £100 million.

Christ on a bike.

[Hoboh]

The Championship will be a different animal from this season on. Huge parachute payments and the temptation of a season at the top table, with potentially several hundred million up for grabs, will tempt a lot of owners into investment I suspect. Even if we were to get ourselves promoted this season, which by my reckoning will be a longish shot- albeit doable, I'm not sure how well we'd be able to compete in the Championship and survive, let alone prosper, without spending a shed load of money.

Hence, I don't think Ken is in too much of a hurry to get back there, more so having to stump up to the Davies Devil as well.

[Worthy4England]

The Championship will be a different animal from this season on. Huge parachute payments and the temptation of a season at the top table, with potentially several hundred million up for grabs, will tempt a lot of owners into investment I suspect. Even if we were to get ourselves promoted this season, which by my reckoning will be a longish shot- albeit doable, I'm not sure how well we'd be able to compete in the Championship and survive, let alone prosper, without spending a shed load of money.

Hence, I don't think Ken is in too much of a hurry to get back there, more so having to stump up to the Davies Devil as well.

I still don't see your logic. Benefits of being promoted will almost certainly outweigh the costs (If they took the view that the squad investment remained to a plan, regardless of which Division we were in).

Doesn't stack up.

[Hoboh]

The Championship will be a different animal from this season on. Huge parachute payments and the temptation of a season at the top table, with potentially several hundred million up for grabs, will tempt a lot of owners into investment I suspect. Even if we were to get ourselves promoted this season, which by my reckoning will be a longish shot- albeit doable, I'm not sure how well we'd be able to compete in the Championship and survive, let alone prosper, without spending a shed load of money.

Hence, I don't think Ken is in too much of a hurry to get back there, more so having to stump up to the Davies Devil as well.

I still don't see your logic. Benefits of being promoted will almost certainly outweigh the costs (If they took the view that the squad investment remained to a plan, regardless of which Division we were in).

Doesn't stack up.

Inadequate playing squad, money to Davies, massive investment from new owners, hardly bring in a good selling price.

[Worthy4England]

The Championship will be a different animal from this season on. Huge parachute payments and the temptation of a season at the top table, with potentially several hundred million up for grabs, will tempt a lot of owners into investment I suspect. Even if we were to get ourselves promoted this season, which by my reckoning will be a longish shot- albeit doable, I'm not sure how well we'd be able to compete in the Championship and survive, let alone prosper, without spending a shed load of money.

Hence, I don't think Ken is in too much of a hurry to get back there, more so having to stump up to the Davies Devil as well.

I still don't see your logic. Benefits of being promoted will almost certainly outweigh the costs (If they took the view that the squad investment remained to a plan, regardless of which Division we were in).

Doesn't stack up.

Inadequate playing squad, money to Davies, massive investment from new owners, hardly bring in a good selling price.

What massive investment from the new owners? It only requires massive investment if the owners want to do that, regardless of whether the playing squad is inadequate or not.

If we got up and secured 21st, it'd be a big improvement on Revenue side, with the only "downside" being that we'd need to make some scaled payments to Davies - that would only be a problem if the payments outweighed the Revenue improvement.

Being in Div 1, hardly brings in a good selling price either.

[Bruce Rioja]

I just read that it was the clubs 'Fun Day' on Saturday. Well I'm glad that that's that out of the way then?!

[LeverEnd]

The Championship will be a different animal from this season on. Huge parachute payments and the temptation of a season at the top table, with potentially several hundred million up for grabs, will tempt a lot of owners into investment I suspect. Even if we were to get ourselves promoted this season, which by my reckoning will be a longish shot- albeit doable, I'm not sure how well we'd be able to compete in the Championship and survive, let alone prosper, without spending a shed load of money.

Hence, I don't think Ken is in too much of a hurry to get back there, more so having to stump up to the Davies Devil as well.

I still don't see your logic. Benefits of being promoted will almost certainly outweigh the costs (If they took the view that the squad investment remained to a plan, regardless of which Division we were in).

Doesn't stack up.

Inadequate playing squad, money to Davies, massive investment from new owners, hardly bring in a good selling price.

If he's looking to sell on and make a quick buck, a trimmed down squad just one promotion from the promised gives him a much better chance. No way he doesn't want to go up.

[Hoboh]

The Championship will be a different animal from this season on. Huge parachute payments and the temptation of a season at the top table, with potentially several hundred million up for grabs, will tempt a lot of owners into investment I suspect. Even if we were to get ourselves promoted this season, which by my reckoning will be a longish shot- albeit doable, I'm not sure how well we'd be able to compete in the Championship and survive, let alone prosper, without spending a shed load of money.

Hence, I don't think Ken is in too much of a hurry to get back there, more so having to stump up to the Davies Devil as well.

I still don't see your logic. Benefits of being promoted will almost certainly outweigh the costs (If they took the view that the squad investment remained to a plan, regardless of which Division we were in).

Doesn't stack up.

Inadequate playing squad, money to Davies, massive investment from new owners, hardly bring in a good selling price.

If he's looking to sell on and make a quick buck, a trimmed down squad just one promotion from the promised gives him a much better chance. No way he doesn't want to go up.

Appointing a crap manager is hardly going to help his cause, is it?