January 2022 Transfer Thread

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:48 pm

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Aye, I'm not saying we've not had more than our fair share of "shit happens" and I have no doubt that if your first choice 4 is only available 3 games, it might be a push. Fortunately, we have a system to fall back on.
I live in hope that with Jones due to come back into contention this month and new right backs linked we will become a little more resilient to "shit happens" at the back. If Baps goes and we bring in a decent player to replace him that'd be another step in the right direction.

If we can get those done fantastic.

Systems, tactics, match prep are all obviously vital. Ultimately, though, you live an die by the quality you have in your squad. Pep isn't winning the league if he's Brighton manager. Sir Alex wouldn't do much with the current Watford squad.

Let's hope we have a good window.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:13 pm

I think we're discussing finer margins than Wheater v Johnston. We both agree we need RB cover. I'm not suggesting we change system or tactics nor that we don't need analytics. I do want a CB that's a bit different than what we have, they all seem a bit "passive" in outlook and ability to command the centre of defence when the chips are down. It's not necessarily someone who "shouts a lot," I think Baps quietly helped Santos quite a lot last season. Gilks did all the shouting. :-) I don't get the same feeling from either Johnston or Aimison yet nor Dixon. It's easy to point to how right it is when the gameplan executes well - as with any system :-)

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:19 pm

Nobody in our entire squad (not counting Gilks as he's not really a plyer anymore) can organise a defence. It's a massive issue.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:56 pm

Had a quick dig into Marlon Fossey, the Fulham fella we've been linked with loaning.

LA-born but lived in Jersey (old, not New) from 4 to 11 and UK thereafter. Dual citizen. US U20 cap. Pacey - was a runner as a kid - he started as a centre-forward but converted to winger then full-back – primarily on the right but has also featured on the left.

Made his Fulham U18 debut aged only 15. Promoted to U23s while still a teenager but then came injuries: missed much of the 2016/17 season. Played with first team in preseason of 2018/19 but that season and the next were again injury-troubled.

Went on loan to Shrewsbury for 2020/21 (“He's got huge physical attributes, he's good on the ball and has an awful lot going for himself," said then-gaffer Sam Ricketts) but got knee-knack and sent back in the December. He signed a two-year extension with Fulham last June, so you imagine they checked he wasn’t made of papier-mâché, but then had the trial with Rotherham in July with a view to a loan move.

His seven games (six starts) in the third tier for Shrewsbury represent a small sample size, especially for a struggling team – just above the drop zone, they D4 L3 of the games he played in. Still, he had a decent pass completion average (72.4%), especially considering he averaged more long balls than our lot would usually try (2.9 per 90: this season Gethin's on 2.3, Declan 1.6, Gordon 1.5). Poor crossing (averaging 0.5 successes out of 4.2 per game), although his five assists from 11 games for Fulham's U23s this season suggest he can't be all that cack at it.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:18 pm

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Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:56 pm
Had a quick dig into Marlon Fossey
Any indication from the Yank rumour mill as to whether it's a loan with a view to a full move or just a development thing?

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:30 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
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Had a quick dig into Marlon Fossey
Any indication from the Yank rumour mill as to whether it's a loan with a view to a full move or just a development thing?
No indication, but as I say they gave him a two-year extension in June then tried to loan him to Rotherham, so I would surmise they think there's a player in there with the potential to play third-tier at least. I would therefore be surprised if they simply released him to us.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:22 pm

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I would therefore be surprised if they simply released him to us.
I can't see him being released either, but it would be interesting to know if there's the idea of taking a look at him to make it permanent in the summer. Same with Amaechi. I'd like to know what the plan is.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:41 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:22 pm
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I would therefore be surprised if they simply released him to us.
I can't see him being released either, but it would be interesting to know if there's the idea of taking a look at him to make it permanent in the summer. Same with Amaechi. I'd like to know what the plan is.
I'm not privy to the plan, but both Amaechi and Fossey were highly promising prospects who are contracted beyond this season. The obvious problem is therefore that if they play very well – say, for comparison, as promisingly as Dapo did last season, let alone this - their clubs would be perfectly within their rights to expect a fee, even if they decide their former prospect is dispensable.

Which is not to say we shouldn't loan players – I'd like the squad improved, please - but I'm not hanging my hat on us signing either of those two, and that's OK IMO. Amaechi is presumably in for the X factor up top, Fossey (if signed) as cover/competition for Jones (cf Kioso last season). I would – and hopefully will - be more tantalised by the possibility when/if we sign players approaching the end of their contracts, as per Dapo/Dec this time last year.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by TonyDomingos » Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:02 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:56 pm
Had a quick dig into Marlon Fossey, the Fulham fella we've been linked with loaning.

LA-born but lived in Jersey (old, not New) from 4 to 11 and UK thereafter. Dual citizen. US U20 cap. Pacey - was a runner as a kid - he started as a centre-forward but converted to winger then full-back – primarily on the right but has also featured on the left.

Made his Fulham U18 debut aged only 15. Promoted to U23s while still a teenager but then came injuries: missed much of the 2016/17 season. Played with first team in preseason of 2018/19 but that season and the next were again injury-troubled.

Went on loan to Shrewsbury for 2020/21 (“He's got huge physical attributes, he's good on the ball and has an awful lot going for himself," said then-gaffer Sam Ricketts) but got knee-knack and sent back in the December. He signed a two-year extension with Fulham last June, so you imagine they checked he wasn’t made of papier-mâché, but then had the trial with Rotherham in July with a view to a loan move.

His seven games (six starts) in the third tier for Shrewsbury represent a small sample size, especially for a struggling team – just above the drop zone, they D4 L3 of the games he played in. Still, he had a decent pass completion average (72.4%), especially considering he averaged more long balls than our lot would usually try (2.9 per 90: this season Gethin's on 2.3, Declan 1.6, Gordon 1.5). Poor crossing (averaging 0.5 successes out of 4.2 per game), although his five assists from 11 games for Fulham's U23s this season suggest he can't be all that cack at it.

He's basically Tim Ream?
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:34 pm

TonyDomingos wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:02 pm
He's basically Tim Ream?
Can someone do a welfare check on BWFCi?

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by LeverEnd » Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:37 pm

Just looked up his junior hurdles record. Mediocre. It's a pass from me.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by officer_dibble » Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:02 pm

I was hoping we would have recalled Politic by now. Guessing that’s his career over with.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by LeverEnd » Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:18 pm

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I was hoping we would have recalled Politic by now. Guessing that’s his career over with.
Bit pessimistic!
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by officer_dibble » Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:49 am

If it’s not Bolton it’s no career, just look at where delroy facey ended up.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:28 am

More to come.
We are just trying to add more pace and energy to the team and to the group to be honest and we’re going to do that. Dion is the first one over the line. We have another one who is more or less agreed, who will hopefully be in on Monday to play on Tuesday, and then we have identified probably three more that we would like to bring in which will help us and make us better.

We know we are light in midfield for certain and probably light of another striker so that’s what will be happening, that’s the plan.

We are going to try our hardest to get it over the line as quickly as possible, but in this Covid world we’re living in at the moment, teams are looking to hang on to bodies and players as long as they possibly can, but we’re active.

The board have done magnificently supporting me and us and it is now time to develop this team into Bolton Wanderers 2.0, really. It’s the next stage of our development. That’s where we’re at and this is what we’re trying to do.
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Eoin [Doyle] will always be a player - while he is still a player - that is wanted by other people. His goalscoring record is outstanding in every division and what we have said to Eoin from day one is that we will do anything we can to support what he does. Obviously there’s a lot of speculation about Irish teams. Eoin is an Irish lad, his family is Irish. It was always the plan to move home, so there are conversations taking place but nothing has been finalised at all yet.

The one thing we are certainly never going to do is push Eoin Doyle out of the door. If he leaves, it will be on good terms and on his terms and we respect what he’s done for us and what he’s done for me. That’s the bottom line and where we are at the moment.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:19 am

So we've brought Dion in, already have another striker target and Doyle is free to leave.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:19 pm

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Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:19 am
So we've brought Dion in, already have another striker target and Doyle is free to leave.
While we’re reading the tea leaves: he has previously said we need newcomers in defence, midfield and attack, but no mention of defence in these “forthcoming” transfers, implying the imminent incomer is a defender.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:22 pm

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Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:19 pm
While we’re reading the tea leaves: he has previously said we need newcomers in defence, midfield and attack, but no mention of defence in these “forthcoming” transfers, implying the imminent incomer is a defender.
He has previous said we need "defenders", plural, as well. Which may mean we have these 5 players coming in regardless (Charles, today's and 3 others), but are still looking at contingency stuff.

Mark Beevers has been linked with various moves today. Maybe everyone will get what they want.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by The_Gun » Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:25 pm

So he’s saying three more players after Charles and Fossey, with Doyle departing.

Another striker, centre mid and maybe a 10 would do me. Assuming the new players are of sufficient quality I think that would put us in position to have a strong finish to the season.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:00 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:22 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:19 pm
While we’re reading the tea leaves: he has previously said we need newcomers in defence, midfield and attack, but no mention of defence in these “forthcoming” transfers, implying the imminent incomer is a defender.
He has previous said we need "defenders", plural, as well. Which may mean we have these 5 players coming in regardless (Charles, today's and 3 others), but are still looking at contingency stuff.

Mark Beevers has been linked with various moves today. Maybe everyone will get what they want.
Not our type of player. Stops the opposition scoring. :grin:
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