Now he's gone, who's next?

[bobo the clown]

???

So a guy is interviewed and told he's "done very well" but he's second to another who's not yet been in any contact with the club.

Really ??

[officer_dibble]

I have this feeling directors of football dont really work out...but thats where they stick their beak into management ala kenny at liverpool. Sammy has had his managerial hands stung before...

Top staff everywhere; barring managr assistant and first team coach, which are vacant. What about Coyles keeper coach? His BIL fat kitman? Still some vacancies there...

[Sponge]

As I mentioned yesterday. Appleton has been interviewed. Got a few little snippets of info from it.

Club want new manager to work under director of football (Sammy Lee).

New manager should not make too many staff changes as board feel we've got top staff throughout and many are being promoted to senior roles.

Appleton told up front that OGS is first choice should he want it. No direct contact has been made with him as of yesterday afternoon. But concerns over wether or not he'd be happy leaving the bulk of his staff behind.

Mick McCarthy way down the pecking order.

There'll be money to spend in January if we're pushing the top 6.

Who's Appleton?

[Bruce Rioja]

Who's Appleton?

Two of All Saints!

Happy to help there!

[Annoyed Grunt]

Who's Appleton?

Two of All Saints!

Happy to help there!

Terrible

Portsmouth manager.

[BWFC_Insane]

As I mentioned yesterday. Appleton has been interviewed. Got a few little snippets of info from it.

Club want new manager to work under director of football (Sammy Lee).

New manager should not make too many staff changes as board feel we've got top staff throughout and many are being promoted to senior roles.

Appleton told up front that OGS is first choice should he want it. No direct contact has been made with him as of yesterday afternoon. But concerns over wether or not he'd be happy leaving the bulk of his staff behind.

Mick McCarthy way down the pecking order.

There'll be money to spend in January if we're pushing the top 6.

Just doesn't feel right to me...

Either we're shit at interviewing, or the source isn't quite right.

I can't imagine we've intereviewed a guy from another club, this quickly. And if we have and told him "you're not first choice" but some bloke we've not spoken to yet is?

Doesn't ring true.

But then again to quote Sammy Lee "nothing surprises me in football".

I would worry that Appleton has done little other than hold a Portsmouth side together under incredibly testing circumstances. Admirable in itself, but he's not really had results pressure to deal with.

My gut reaction, without knowing a lot about Appleton, and just a gut reaction, Appleton and Lee, pair of losers.

[Worthy4England]

From what I've seen of Dirctor's of Football, don't they usually handle the new players side of things?

I'm just remembering Wilhelmsson and Braaten...

[BWFC_Insane]

From what I've seen of Dirctor's of Football, don't they usually handle the new players side of things?

I'm just remembering Wilhelmsson and Braaten...

Aye. Sammy Lee to me seems like a good coach.

But I thought the "part of management" he didn't handle well was the exact parts a Director of Football would need to do.......

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Which clubs currently have directors of football?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

BWFCI says Mussolini was convicted of a serious war crime. This is simply nonsense. Mussolini, his mistress and some 15 members of his cabinet were summarily executed by Italian communist partisans 24 hours after their capture with no trial. Their bodies were treated disgracefully. This does not mean Mussolini would not have been tried for war crimes by the International Military Tribunal or that he would not have been found guilty. We'll never know because he was essentially murdered - in itself a war crime.

Monty, Monty, Monty. Splutter. Mussolini was a cnut of the first order. He, his stooges, and his fxcking government willingly took part in the Holocaust. And before anybody asks if I’ve got any proof of this, don’t bother, I’m not going to get into stupid arguments with holocaust-deniers. I’ll refer you instead to Primo Levi, an Italian Jew, who has movingly recorded his own personal testament to the awfulness of the period.
As for war crimes per se, Mussolini in his lifetime was accused of war crimes in the League of Nations for his appointment of Graziani and authorisation to use whatever force necessary in the crushing of the Libyan uprising. {NB note carefully I said accused, not convicted}

[ohjimmyjimmy]

BWFCI says Mussolini was convicted of a serious war crime. This is simply nonsense. Mussolini, his mistress and some 15 members of his cabinet were summarily executed by Italian communist partisans 24 hours after their capture with no trial. Their bodies were treated disgracefully. This does not mean Mussolini would not have been tried for war crimes by the International Military Tribunal or that he would not have been found guilty. We'll never know because he was essentially murdered - in itself a war crime.

Monty, Monty, Monty. Splutter. Mussolini was a cnut of the first order. He, his stooges, and his fxcking government willingly took part in the Holocaust. And before anybody asks if I’ve got any proof of this, don’t bother, I’m not going to get into stupid arguments with holocaust-deniers. I’ll refer you instead to Primo Levi, an Italian Jew, who has movingly recorded his own personal testament to the awfulness of the period.
As for war crimes per se, Mussolini in his lifetime was accused of war crimes in the League of Nations for his appointment of Graziani and authorisation to use whatever force necessary in the crushing of the Libyan uprising. {NB note carefully I said accused, not convicted}

No i said DIRECTORS of football, not dictators

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

<quite a lot about Di Canio>

Thanks for the informed post. Since you probably know more about football than 90% of us on here, do you see any stand-out candidates? You've probably answered this elsewhere, but who'd be your choice?

Thanks for kind words. Not sure I know more about football than any given other, but my job does give me contacts and information. However, I've never claimed to be ITK @ BWFC so the following is merely my opinion, not foreknowledge.

I don't have a straight easy answer because there simply isn't one. As I said earlier on the thread I would like an open, broad interview process to check out some of the candidates, and we simply have to trust that the right decision is made.

I can see the benefit in Mick McCarthy - 18 months ago he and Steve Morgan seemed entirely on the right track at Wolves, but as we know all too painfully 18 months is a long time in football (and it can certainly be argued that Mick Mac can be stubborn).

I'd like us to talk to Keith Hill, who has managed on a budget to get his sides playing better than the sum of their parts - funnily enough, exactly what's not been happening here; there's a chance he could be out of his depth but we'd never know if we didn't try.

Appleton is interesting - young, respected as a coach, hasn't had the easiest wicket as a manager.

I'd be intrigued to hear Solskjaer's ideas, as some of our best times came after hiring a young rising manager; like many a young man, maybe he'd benefit from having an experienced sidekick - perhaps Warren Joyce, the former Wanderer with whom he was joint manager of the Rags reserves. But would he need Joyce if (if) Lee is being touted as DoF?

There are probably others who haven't occured to me; I would hope they would occur to those whose future we trust the club with.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

No i said DIRECTORS of football, not dictators

Oops, sorry. Was I shouting over the top of you. I fxckin' hate it when somebody does that.

[CrazyHorse]

The Evening News understands Mick McCarthy is out of the running...

MICK McCarthy is not in the running to succeed Owen Coyle as manager of Wanderers, The Bolton News understands.

The former Republic of Ireland boss had been the bookmakers’ favourite since the vacancy was announced on Tuesday morning, but is not one of the names being considered as chairman Phil Gartside whittles down his shortlist.

McCarthy has been out of work since leaving Wolves in February and has twice won the Championship title.

But it appears that the Whites are targeting a younger boss to reignite their push for promotion, which has failed to materialise in the opening 10 games of the season.

No deadline has been set on when an appointment will be made, but the club reiterated yesterday that the search to find Coyle’s replacement would be “thorough” and that no approach had yet been made.

Bookmakers William Hill reported yesterday that odds on Michael Appleton becoming the next Wanderers boss fell from 50/1 to 8/1 in 24 hours.

The Portsmouth boss was ranked as third favourite behind Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (6/4) and McCarthy (11/10).

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Bollocks, I'm getting proper depressed.

[norm the jedi]

Bollocks, I'm getting proper depressed.

Make room in miserable corner for me...

Is younger football euphemism no1 for cheaper?
Think Mick would be best of a poor crop of 'experienced' types..

Young, cheap and ambitious has the too much the look of a gamble about it...
Not sure I recognise the allerdyce comparisons he may have been young ish but he had a deal more experience than some of the shavers we seem to be getting linked with plus he had the goodwill of his former player status..

I'd take Mick or OGS but doubt either will be on offer the rest seem much of a mehness!
Hopefully there isn't another Megsonesque left fielder waiting in the wings...

[Athers]

Appleton:

I suppose what's going on at Pompey means Appleton probably could speak to other clubs without much trouble.

Joyce:

Have seen him quoted in past as saying he has "the biggest job in football"

[Lost Leopard Spot]

...he has "the biggest jobbie in football"

[James B]

appleton would be an odd one. and i could be wrong but it seems like a cheap option. but anyone we bring in shouldn't be judged before he starts (like megson was) and given a good chance at it.

[Peter Thompson]

Who's Michael Appleton and what has he done to prompt an interest from BWFC ?

This has to be paper talk - this really would be the most uninspiring appointment ever !