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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by boltonboris » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:32 pm

In a system that has utilised 4 central midfielders...........
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:34 pm

boltonboris wrote:In a system that has utilised 4 central midfielders...........
Quite. Wingers and crossing the ball are most definitely not how it's done these days.

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Post by mrplow » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:52 pm

boltonboris wrote:In a system that has utilised 4 central midfielders...........
Very true. I like Danns, he's done well for us, I hope DF sticks with him.

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Post by LeverEnd » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:58 pm

As far as choices go, we have Spearing and the Dougie lottery. yes he has done well and I agree we should stick with him. Doing well doesn't seem to influence his team selection much though.
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Post by boltonboris » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:21 pm

mrplow wrote:
boltonboris wrote:In a system that has utilised 4 central midfielders...........
Very true. I like Danns, he's done well for us, I hope DF sticks with him.
As do I. I can;t for the life of me understand why he's not a shoe in. The midfield should pick itself for me. Spearing, Medo, Danns, Davies.. Won't work every week, but it will work more often than not
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:27 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
boltonboris wrote:In a system that has utilised 4 central midfielders...........
Quite. Wingers and crossing the ball are most definitely not how it's done these days.
Isn't that midfield with no wingers, the one that produced the Blackburn and Leeds results and the one that toys were thrown out of the pram on here when it was changed? So you want wingers now?

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:33 pm

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boltonboris wrote:In a system that has utilised 4 central midfielders...........
Quite. Wingers and crossing the ball are most definitely not how it's done these days.
Isn't that midfield with no wingers, the one that produced the Blackburn and Leeds results and the one that toys were thrown out of the pram on here when it was changed? So you want wingers now?
They're redundant apparently. Was that not obvious from the words assembled in my post?

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Post by Armchair Wanderer » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:36 pm

boltonboris wrote:In a system that has utilised 4 central midfielders...........
Four false 9's!
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Post by Bruno3 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:05 am

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Spearing, Medo, Danns, Davies.. Won't work every week, but it will work more often than not[/quote]

That has to be the most vertically challenged midfield ever with a combined height of one Masai warrior (not saying its a bad thing - just an observation)

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Re: Abdoulaye's going t'Souk transfer thread

Post by Riviman » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:44 pm

Eagles to Charlton?

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... _/?ref=mac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by bobo the clown » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:53 pm

Riviman wrote:Eagles to Charlton?

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... _/?ref=mac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That would be madness. Part of the issue here is that he's one of our highly paid player and we can't meet that salary for a new contract. There's no fckg way Charlton can.

Which brings home the fact that there IS an issue between him and Dr Confusion.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:05 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Riviman wrote:Eagles to Charlton?

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... _/?ref=mac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That would be madness. Part of the issue here is that he's one of our highly paid player and we can't meet that salary for a new contract. There's no fckg way Charlton can.

Which brings home the fact that there IS an issue between him and Dr Confusion.
Eh? He's highly paid and out of contract in the summer and leaving us it seems.

Not getting into the side right now.

So we could get Charlton to pay some of his wages till the end of the season, because every penny counts.

Logically shifting any amount of money off the wage bill now for a player we're not using would be sensible. Because, assuming we avoid total collapse our season is done......

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Post by Riviman » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:27 pm

According to this an agreement has been reached between the clubs, now up to Eagles:

http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/Sport.cfm?id=10170" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by ChrisC » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:34 pm

http://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2014/03/26 ... ffers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Middlesbrough boss Aitor Karanka has revealed he is willing to listen to offers for Lukas Jutkiewicz in the summer.

Jutkiewicz will spend the rest of the season on loan at Bolton, where he has scored five goals in 11 appearances, and has already expressed a desire to remain at the Reebok Stadium beyond the term of his deal.

The 24-year-old has 12 months remaining on his Boro contract and although Karanka has been impressed with his recent performances, the former Real Madrid assistant coach says the player's future will be discussed at the end of the season.

"When the season is finished, we will sit down with Lukas and talk about the future," Karanka told The Northern Echo. "I don't know what will happen with him - it is something for the future rather than now.

"I am very happy with the way he has been playing. When we sat down together to discuss what was going to happen earlier in the season, we came up with the solution of him going to Bolton on loan because we all wanted the same thing.

"It was very important for him to go somewhere and score goals so he could get more confidence. I am pleased that has happened, and I know more now than I knew at the beginning. I am happy, Lukas is happy and Bolton are happy. We will leave it until the summer."
Would love us to get him on a permanent deal.

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Post by SmokinFrazier » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:14 pm

boltonboris wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:Peltier is awful. Leeds fans were booing him a while ago.
Well fancy these other managers that you'd rather have wanting to sign him.......
Like who? It seems to be between us and Forest, and they don't have a manager. I like McDermott and he wants to get rid of Peltier.

Even if managers I like in this division, such as McClaren, were interested, that's only because they have a much lesser squad than we do. They can be excused for going after less quality players because they don't have the strength we do.

I'd be disappointed if Eagles was to leave us. It's depressing to see the quality we have/had leave us and be replaced by Freedman's choices because that's clearly going in the wrong direction. If he stays throughout the summer, we'll start next season with an inferior squad to what we've got now, and that regression will continue in each transfer window. He wants to rebuild from scratch and come up with a team full of lesser talented workhorses who chase everything, dismissing the likes of Eagles. Even Moritz, who he brought in, clearly isn't favoured and doesn't get anything like the chances he should do. We came down with a squad that had plenty of quality but in a couple of years, we'll have a team full of headless chickens if Freedman stays, solely because he doesn't know how to get the best out of players. What these transfers represent is our transition to a regular Championship team that accepts mediocrity. I don't think we'll start next season hoping for promotion which is sad to think about.

With the right manager, we could have bounced back up. However, Freedman's mentality and attitude towards transfers means that won't happen this year or the next, if he stays. The regression will continue.

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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:20 pm

I remember thinking, when we signed Eagles, how bad it was that we had to rely on signing inferior Championship players. How times change...

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Post by boltonboris » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:30 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:Peltier is awful. Leeds fans were booing him a while ago.
Well fancy these other managers that you'd rather have wanting to sign him.......
Like who? It seems to be between us and Forest, and they don't have a manager. I like McDermott and he wants to get rid of Peltier.

Even if managers I like in this division, such as McClaren, were interested, that's only because they have a much lesser squad than we do. They can be excused for going after less quality players because they don't have the strength we do.

I'd be disappointed if Eagles was to leave us. It's depressing to see the quality we have/had leave us and be replaced by Freedman's choices because that's clearly going in the wrong direction. If he stays throughout the summer, we'll start next season with an inferior squad to what we've got now, and that regression will continue in each transfer window. He wants to rebuild from scratch and come up with a team full of lesser talented workhorses who chase everything, dismissing the likes of Eagles. Even Moritz, who he brought in, clearly isn't favoured and doesn't get anything like the chances he should do. We came down with a squad that had plenty of quality but in a couple of years, we'll have a team full of headless chickens if Freedman stays, solely because he doesn't know how to get the best out of players. What these transfers represent is our transition to a regular Championship team that accepts mediocrity. I don't think we'll start next season hoping for promotion which is sad to think about.

With the right manager, we could have bounced back up. However, Freedman's mentality and attitude towards transfers means that won't happen this year or the next, if he stays. The regression will continue.
Davies lined him up apparently and (allegedly) Warnock wants to carry the transfer through, but he doesn't want to go there..

So that's 2 managers who are supposedly better than Freedman wanting this player.

It seems like you'd use absolutely anything to have a pop at the guy. He's a clueless bell-end, but his hit rate in the market has generally been okay
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Post by SmokinFrazier » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:35 pm

boltonboris wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:Peltier is awful. Leeds fans were booing him a while ago.
Well fancy these other managers that you'd rather have wanting to sign him.......
Like who? It seems to be between us and Forest, and they don't have a manager. I like McDermott and he wants to get rid of Peltier.

Even if managers I like in this division, such as McClaren, were interested, that's only because they have a much lesser squad than we do. They can be excused for going after less quality players because they don't have the strength we do.

I'd be disappointed if Eagles was to leave us. It's depressing to see the quality we have/had leave us and be replaced by Freedman's choices because that's clearly going in the wrong direction. If he stays throughout the summer, we'll start next season with an inferior squad to what we've got now, and that regression will continue in each transfer window. He wants to rebuild from scratch and come up with a team full of lesser talented workhorses who chase everything, dismissing the likes of Eagles. Even Moritz, who he brought in, clearly isn't favoured and doesn't get anything like the chances he should do. We came down with a squad that had plenty of quality but in a couple of years, we'll have a team full of headless chickens if Freedman stays, solely because he doesn't know how to get the best out of players. What these transfers represent is our transition to a regular Championship team that accepts mediocrity. I don't think we'll start next season hoping for promotion which is sad to think about.

With the right manager, we could have bounced back up. However, Freedman's mentality and attitude towards transfers means that won't happen this year or the next, if he stays. The regression will continue.
Davies lined him up apparently and (allegedly) Warnock wants to carry the transfer through, but he doesn't want to go there..

So that's 2 managers who are supposedly better than Freedman wanting this player.

It seems like you'd use absolutely anything to have a pop at the guy. He's a clueless bell-end, but his hit rate in the market has generally been okay
I very much doubt that Davies was the one who wanted to bring him in. The rumours only started a few days ago and seemed to fall apart when the Warnock deal did, and given that Warnock signed him for Leeds, it makes sense to assume that the Peltier deal was only going to happen if Warnock became manager.

Some of Freedman's signings have been good but I don't like the sort of team he's building. A good manager would be playing Moritz, Chungy and Eagles every week and be getting the best out of them, yet Freedman is shunning them in favour of players who try hard yet lack real quality because he doesn't know how to get the best out of the more talented ones in our squad. It's important to have players like Eagles but I suspect we'll sell him and replace him with someone who doesn't have the same cutting edge yet will track back and cover plenty of ground. Those sort of players are important, of course, but too many of them and the balance between quality and effort swings too far and you end up with a team full of mediocrity. It's the wrong direction to go in for promotion.

There are issues with the sort of team Freedman wants to build. Not only is he a poor tactician, man manager and all that, but his transfers will see us fall into mediocrity. He isn't building a team for promotion, so we're backing the wrong horse for our goal. When people look back after a few seasons, they'll wonder what happened to the quality we had and regret we didn't have a capable manager who could get something out of them.

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Post by Prufrock » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:44 pm

They've been shite for nigh on three years solid! Mediocrity would be a fecking improvement at the moment.
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:24 pm

Riviman wrote:According to this an agreement has been reached between the clubs, now up to Eagles:

http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/Sport.cfm?id=10170" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A real shame for me this. It was mainly down to him & Dawson that we almost stumbled into the play offs and yet this year he's been side-lined or out of form. What happened :conf:

No disrespect to Charlton, they're a decent club but I'm amazed someone higher up the division, a Derby, Wigan or Forest aren't willing to take a punt on him for the cost of wages alone
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