Spotty's Seriously Sub-standard Second Rate Transfer Thread.

[boltonboris]

Worst thing is, we'll still be footing a chunk of his wages, getting a pittance transfer fee and weakening the team

I doubt that.

Depends on the player. If he's got 2 years left and SWFC don't match his wage, he's entitled to the difference by us - Depending on what difference it would be, it's likely that some of the transfer fee will be paid out as compensation to him

[boltonboris]

Robbie Fowler / Leeds scenario.

Sold him because they needed a cash injection, still paid half of his wages

[Jugs]

It's criminal that the club has got themselves into such a position that they have to sell their best players for a cut-price fee so that they can pay bills.

One also has to accept that these players have us bottom of the championship. Which means they probably aren't players that we should be all that sorry saying bye to.

Davies is the classic example, great on his day, but if he was truly premiership quality on even a semi-consistent basis he'd not be here still, or we'd be far higher up the table.

When I get really frustrated with the whole team, like I did last Saturday, I say get rid of them all because we're bottom of the league and they're all useless feckers. But then I calm down a bit and reason that if we are going to get out of the relegation zone by May, we're going to need a player like Mark Davies who can, on his day, provide a bit of inspiration.

But anyway, we're just gonna have to hope that whatever shower is left by the end of January can put a few wins together.

[Dr Hotdog]

It's criminal that the club has got themselves into such a position that they have to sell their best players for a cut-price fee so that they can pay bills.

One also has to accept that these players have us bottom of the championship. Which means they probably aren't players that we should be all that sorry saying bye to.

Davies is the classic example, great on his day, but if he was truly premiership quality on even a semi-consistent basis he'd not be here still, or we'd be far higher up the table.

When I get really frustrated with the whole team, like I did last Saturday, I say get rid of them all because we're bottom of the league and they're all useless feckers. But then I calm down a bit and reason that if we are going to get out of the relegation zone by May, we're going to need a player like Mark Davies who can, on his day, provide a bit of inspiration.

But anyway, we're just gonna have to hope that whatever shower is left by the end of January can put a few wins together.

It's the hope that kills you!

[BWFC_Insane]

Worst thing is, we'll still be footing a chunk of his wages, getting a pittance transfer fee and weakening the team

I doubt that.

Depends on the player. If he's got 2 years left and SWFC don't match his wage, he's entitled to the difference by us - Depending on what difference it would be, it's likely that some of the transfer fee will be paid out as compensation to him

We can't pay our wage bill. There is no way any player would rely on us making up any wages.

Also, Sheff Weds are not broke. They have the money for his wages.

Given removing his wages from the books are worth more than the fee I don't imagine in this case we will be contributing anything further once he signs for Wednesday especially as apparently we have a bloke doing these deals who is described as a very tough negotiator.

[BWFC_Insane]

It's criminal that the club has got themselves into such a position that they have to sell their best players for a cut-price fee so that they can pay bills.

One also has to accept that these players have us bottom of the championship. Which means they probably aren't players that we should be all that sorry saying bye to.

Davies is the classic example, great on his day, but if he was truly premiership quality on even a semi-consistent basis he'd not be here still, or we'd be far higher up the table.

When I get really frustrated with the whole team, like I did last Saturday, I say get rid of them all because we're bottom of the league and they're all useless feckers. But then I calm down a bit and reason that if we are going to get out of the relegation zone by May, we're going to need a player like Mark Davies who can, on his day, provide a bit of inspiration.

But anyway, we're just gonna have to hope that whatever shower is left by the end of January can put a few wins together.

I'll give you a hint.....we aren't.....

[Jugs]

It's criminal that the club has got themselves into such a position that they have to sell their best players for a cut-price fee so that they can pay bills.

One also has to accept that these players have us bottom of the championship. Which means they probably aren't players that we should be all that sorry saying bye to.

Davies is the classic example, great on his day, but if he was truly premiership quality on even a semi-consistent basis he'd not be here still, or we'd be far higher up the table.

When I get really frustrated with the whole team, like I did last Saturday, I say get rid of them all because we're bottom of the league and they're all useless feckers. But then I calm down a bit and reason that if we are going to get out of the relegation zone by May, we're going to need a player like Mark Davies who can, on his day, provide a bit of inspiration.

But anyway, we're just gonna have to hope that whatever shower is left by the end of January can put a few wins together.

It's the hope that kills you!

Yep. Pratley to get the winner at Hillsborough next week after Danns scores one with his arse.

[Jugs]

It's criminal that the club has got themselves into such a position that they have to sell their best players for a cut-price fee so that they can pay bills.

One also has to accept that these players have us bottom of the championship. Which means they probably aren't players that we should be all that sorry saying bye to.

Davies is the classic example, great on his day, but if he was truly premiership quality on even a semi-consistent basis he'd not be here still, or we'd be far higher up the table.

When I get really frustrated with the whole team, like I did last Saturday, I say get rid of them all because we're bottom of the league and they're all useless feckers. But then I calm down a bit and reason that if we are going to get out of the relegation zone by May, we're going to need a player like Mark Davies who can, on his day, provide a bit of inspiration.

But anyway, we're just gonna have to hope that whatever shower is left by the end of January can put a few wins together.

I'll give you a hint.....we aren't.....

We've still got Madine. So there's a chance.

[boltonboris]

Worst thing is, we'll still be footing a chunk of his wages, getting a pittance transfer fee and weakening the team

I doubt that.

Depends on the player. If he's got 2 years left and SWFC don't match his wage, he's entitled to the difference by us - Depending on what difference it would be, it's likely that some of the transfer fee will be paid out as compensation to him

We can't pay our wage bill. There is no way any player would rely on us making up any wages.

Also, Sheff Weds are not broke. They have the money for his wages.

Given removing his wages from the books are worth more than the fee I don't imagine in this case we will be contributing anything further once he signs for Wednesday especially as apparently we have a bloke doing these deals who is described as a very tough negotiator.

Can't be that tough if he's going for so little in todays market

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Worst thing is, we'll still be footing a chunk of his wages, getting a pittance transfer fee and weakening the team

I doubt that.

Depends on the player. If he's got 2 years left and SWFC don't match his wage, he's entitled to the difference by us - Depending on what difference it would be, it's likely that some of the transfer fee will be paid out as compensation to him

We can't pay our wage bill. There is no way any player would rely on us making up any wages.

Also, Sheff Weds are not broke. They have the money for his wages.

Given removing his wages from the books are worth more than the fee I don't imagine in this case we will be contributing anything further once he signs for Wednesday especially as apparently we have a bloke doing these deals who is described as a very tough negotiator.

Neither could Leeds pay Fowler's, but they had to for two seasons, as Boris correctly points out. Same for Pompey and Ben Haim. If the club has signed a contract with a player then the player has the right to demand the shortfall in wages when he moves on. This can be done per week or lump sum.

So we might be paying Mavies say £10,000 pw to not only not play for us, but to play for one of our divisional rivals. Smooth. Shows how far we've come.

Maybe the reduced fee reflects the fact that Wednesday will pay more to Davies up front, effectively paying off out debt to him. Or maybe it reflects the fact that we're bent over a barrel with our trousers down. Yes, I'm sure Wednesday "have the money", but why should they spend it on our behalf?

[LeverEnd]

Robbie Fowler / Leeds scenario.

Sold him because they needed a cash injection, still paid half of his wages

I'm aware it happens, but in the circumstances I can't see us agreeing a deal with ongoing financial committments that isn't all boxed off. No need to put potential buyers off any more than we have already.
Could be screwed on the fee but the reduction in wage bill seems like the important thing.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Sorry, I was wrong.

Leeds carried on paying Fowler's wages, but not for two years. It was for three and a half years, because that was the remaining length of his contract.

[BWFC_Insane]

Worst thing is, we'll still be footing a chunk of his wages, getting a pittance transfer fee and weakening the team

I doubt that.

Depends on the player. If he's got 2 years left and SWFC don't match his wage, he's entitled to the difference by us - Depending on what difference it would be, it's likely that some of the transfer fee will be paid out as compensation to him

We can't pay our wage bill. There is no way any player would rely on us making up any wages.

Also, Sheff Weds are not broke. They have the money for his wages.

Given removing his wages from the books are worth more than the fee I don't imagine in this case we will be contributing anything further once he signs for Wednesday especially as apparently we have a bloke doing these deals who is described as a very tough negotiator.

Can't be that tough if he's going for so little in todays market

Possibly fee is partly reflective of wages Wednesday are taking on.

However, I don't think the fee is that low.

He's 27, shown flashes of brilliance but that is all. He's never consistently been the main man. Never shown the capability for that. He's an attacking midfield player who rarely if ever scores.

Not saying he isn't a decent player but he's never ripped up trees. Lots of potential but it just never materialised. Possibly because of injuries possibly lack of application.

If we weren't broke I'm sure we'd try and sell others first. But I don't think the fee is outlandishly low.

[wigan white]

The only thing I would say is that, yes he's not been performing consistently for a while, but too be fair to him, he's not been played in his best position by NL all season, he needs to be our attacking midfielder through the centre and not on the wing or in a deep role. If we are to progress, then we need a player like him, unfortunately a player like this usually commands a higher wage and I can see why the club would look to get him off the books.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

so - this is the transfer thread that swapped Mavis for Trotter?

I gave everybody fair warning of just how shit this will be!
The thing you need to concentrate on is that I also guaranteed no other transfer thread will ever be worse than this one, money back.

Oh, and Plymouth...

[Harry Genshaw]

Anyway, a fee has been agreed with Wednesday. "Medical the next step" - Nixon.

He's going nowhere!

[Jugs]

I think Mark Davies is a bit similar to Ozil, not in terms of quality, but in terms of how he does the little things well which go unnoticed. Because he doesn't have explosive games all the time, people say he hasn't lived up to all the hype.

But, as an example, the way he set up Dobbie's equaliser v Forest was fantastic, but it probably largely went unnoticed because it was seemingly just a small thing compared to the actual strike. But he created space superbly and found Dobbie. No one else in our team atm comes close to his level of ability, but he's largely been let down throughout his career by injuries, being played out of position, as well as sub-standard teammates.

No one can spot a needle in a haystack if it isn't even there, likewise Davies can't be expected to produce bits of magic all the time if his teammates aren't even making the right runs et cetera.

Yes, he hasn't performed as consistently well as any of us would have liked, but he's still been my favourite player to watch recently, and one of the few who can get fans off their seats when he does go on his marauding runs.

[Harry Genshaw]

^ Agreed Jugs. Clough's first goal v Fulham was from a Davies pass that no-one else in the team could have managed. And very well taken by Clough too. We're about to lose one of the few creative influences in our team.

[Andy Waller]

I'm sorry but most of this is bollocks.

I've seen Davies do sod all for at least three seasons. He'll go on one great run on 75 mins when everyone is knackered and people think he's Pele.

He can't shoot, he's no fight in him and as for having the highest pass completion, you will have if you ping it straight back at the player who gave you the ball.

Everyone prattles on about how good he is but there's plenty of reasons why no-one has come in for him previously.

I've felt sorry him playing on the left wing though, I can't see the point in that.

[plymouth wanderer]

so - this is the transfer thread that swapped Mavis for Trotter?

I gave everybody fair warning of just how shit this will be!
The thing you need to concentrate on is that I also guaranteed no other transfer thread will ever be worse than this one, money back.

Oh, and Plymouth...

I am not fighting you with a pair of Dildos!