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How big is a set?Choppers wrote:There is no historical revision going on whatsoever. Megson purchased excellent players on the whole with a few duds.
His poor coaching, technical and people skills meant he could utilise those players to their full but there really is no debate in my humble opinion that he got us a brilliant set of players.
I reckon he could've done a lot better with the amount of money he spent. Most importantly we didn't need to sign Sam Ricketts as a RB when we had Nicky Hunt as cover. We didn't need to sign Paul Robinson at LB when we had Gardner as cover. In fact we overlapped in quite a number of positions and it wasn't until we stopped utilising the likes of JLS and Nicky Hunt that Paul Robinson and Sam Ricketts started getting fully involved as first teamers. Seems like bad decisions to me. We're still reeling from the effects of Megson in that we have players at the club that aren't getting close the first team. Shittu, Riga, etc. are other examples.
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No it isn't. Of the current team that is 6th Megson bought 8 of the starting eleven. Of course he could have got better value. With hindsight every single manager ever has 'wasted' money. It's pretty clear to anyone with half a brain he signed good players, they're 6th for feck's sake. What it also highlights is just how poor his managerial skills where when he had said same group of players in 18th. Pea head is a cracking cracking player, but he isn't the difference between 18th and 6th.H. Pedersen wrote:This is like saying Mourinho bought poorly because his Inter team was 7th under Benitez. Benitez's failings don't retroactively apply to Mourinho, just as Coyle's success doesn't rub off on Megson. Coyle is the one who took an 18th placed team to 6th, and it's frankly embarrassing to see the Megson acolytes try to save their credibility with this latest bit of historical revisionism.
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This is where I sit. Normally I stand but too lazy.Prufrock wrote:No it isn't. Of the current team that is 6th Megson bought 8 of the starting eleven. Of course he could have got better value. With hindsight every single manager ever has 'wasted' money. It's pretty clear to anyone with half a brain he signed good players, they're 6th for feck's sake. What it also highlights is just how poor his managerial skills where when he had said same group of players in 18th. Pea head is a cracking cracking player, but he isn't the difference between 18th and 6th.H. Pedersen wrote:This is like saying Mourinho bought poorly because his Inter team was 7th under Benitez. Benitez's failings don't retroactively apply to Mourinho, just as Coyle's success doesn't rub off on Megson. Coyle is the one who took an 18th placed team to 6th, and it's frankly embarrassing to see the Megson acolytes try to save their credibility with this latest bit of historical revisionism.
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With a 27% win ratio from 98 matches in charge. Pathetic.Choppers wrote:Once again, I'm not saying he didn't sign some shit (Rasiak), but I do think people forget that most of his signings were pretty good.
He's a shit manager with an eye for a player and no people skills whatsoever.
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and a ppg of 1 (compare 1.45 currently)East Lower wrote:With a 27% win ratio from 98 matches in charge. Pathetic.Choppers wrote:Once again, I'm not saying he didn't sign some shit (Rasiak), but I do think people forget that most of his signings were pretty good.
He's a shit manager with an eye for a player and no people skills whatsoever.
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True. The fact that the debt and wage bill exploded under Megson is another blow to the myth that he bought well.Mar wrote:We're still reeling from the effects of Megson in that we have players at the club that aren't getting close the first team. Shittu, Riga, etc. are other examples.
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that was no different when allardyce brought folk over from far off lands. And jayloyd for instance is still here.Mar wrote:We're still reeling from the effects of Megson in that we have players at the club that aren't getting close the first team. Shittu, Riga, etc. are other examples.
or when lee bought alonso , cid (although he were allardyces) etc , bwfc just paid them off . - that was under megsons watch, so it'll come under balance sheets for the years megson was here.
all managers have duds in the squads for ages. its partly expected due to risk.
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It's those last couple of words where you are mistaken. Allardyce and Lee signed some crap, to be sure, but they were almost always on short term contracts or offloaded fairly quickly. Cesar Martin and Martin Djetou weren't lingering around the reserves for years. Alonso and Wilhelmsson were on loan. We found buyers for Cid, Dzemaili, Braaten, and Helguson.a1 wrote:that was no different when allardyce brought folk over from far off lands. And jayloyd for instance is still here.Mar wrote:We're still reeling from the effects of Megson in that we have players at the club that aren't getting close the first team. Shittu, Riga, etc. are other examples.
or when lee bought alonso , cid (although he were allardyces) etc , bwfc just paid them off . - that was under megsons watch, so it'll come under balance sheets for the years megson was here.
all managers have duds in the squads for ages.
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Sam Ricketts has played in 11 games thus far this season, so he's a bit more than cover. Nicky Hunt has played in 7 for Bristol City, 19th in the Championship. He was also dependable at centre half at times last season.Mar wrote:How big is a set?Choppers wrote:There is no historical revision going on whatsoever. Megson purchased excellent players on the whole with a few duds.
His poor coaching, technical and people skills meant he could utilise those players to their full but there really is no debate in my humble opinion that he got us a brilliant set of players.
I reckon he could've done a lot better with the amount of money he spent. Most importantly we didn't need to sign Sam Ricketts as a RB when we had Nicky Hunt as cover. We didn't need to sign Paul Robinson at LB when we had Gardner as cover. In fact we overlapped in quite a number of positions and it wasn't until we stopped utilising the likes of JLS and Nicky Hunt that Paul Robinson and Sam Ricketts started getting fully involved as first teamers. Seems like bad decisions to me. We're still reeling from the effects of Megson in that we have players at the club that aren't getting close the first team. Shittu, Riga, etc. are other examples.
Paul Robinson is so good that not only has he kept his place under Coyle above the likes of Gardner and Samuel, he's also keeping out our big money summer signing Marcos Alonso. Not bad for a signing many (including me) thought was a case of jobs for the boys.
Both (even though I don't particularly rate Ricketts) turned out to be a significant improvement on what we had. And if you look back, I didn't want us to sign either of them.
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did he buy new nets too? the wasteful bastard!!!hisroyalgingerness wrote:And net spend?
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thebish wrote:did he buy new nets too? the wasteful bastard!!!hisroyalgingerness wrote:And net spend?

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Oh dear.H. Pedersen wrote:I didn't think Sean Davis was very good even when he was fit. Red card waiting to happen.


Sean Davis is a superb midfield player and was without doubt Megson's finest signing, without, of course, the benefit of hindsight.
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Bullard's better.
Still.
Anyway, the guy is a shit manager and a third rate human being. I'm sure some feel free to defend him, I can't see the point. We're better off without him. Thats also hindsight.
Still.
Anyway, the guy is a shit manager and a third rate human being. I'm sure some feel free to defend him, I can't see the point. We're better off without him. Thats also hindsight.
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Sean Davis played in three league games last season and received three yellow cards and one red. I saw him play in the Charleston game. I've never seen anyone kick so many players in a friendly.
Now, I could say something here like "Back up your assertion that he's a 'superb' midfield player, you absolute cock!" but I'm sure I'd get banned while you would once again inexplicably escape punishment for random personal abuse.
Now, I could say something here like "Back up your assertion that he's a 'superb' midfield player, you absolute cock!" but I'm sure I'd get banned while you would once again inexplicably escape punishment for random personal abuse.
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And as I suspected, you'd arrive at your absolute cockish assertion that Davis is a poor signing by dint of your lack of knowledge. Once again, up you pop! You didn't see how well he played for Portsmouth, then? Obviously not!H. Pedersen wrote:Sean Davis played in three league games last season and received three yellow cards and one red. I saw him play in the Charleston game. I've never seen anyone kick so many players in a friendly.
Now, I could say something here like "Back up your assertion that he's a 'superb' midfield player, you absolute cock!" but I'm sure I'd get banned while you would once again inexplicably escape punishment for random personal abuse.
So, I've backed up my assertion, you clever Herbert.

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I rate Davis, had he not been injured he would have been an important part of the squad I think
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agree davis is a quality player hopefully he will get fit and get his chance he's like robbo wear's his heart on his sleeve will always remember him for this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO4Ajmg4d8s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; quality
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