How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
are you sure you really want myaichi to play? do you rate him like?
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
Yeah, why not? How about you?officer_dibble wrote:are you sure you really want myaichi to play? do you rate him like?
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
I think we should JUST play Miyaichi ... & maybe a keeper.
We'd be bound to win then AND avoid those pesky other players getting in his way.
We'd be bound to win then AND avoid those pesky other players getting in his way.
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
Definitely play Pratley, too
To increase the chances of avoiding non-injury for the crucial final games
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CAPSLOCK wrote:Definitely play Pratley, too
To increase the chances of avoiding non-injury for the crucial final games
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
Jussi
Riley
Boyata
Knight
Alonso
Eagles
Muamba
Pratley
Vela
Petrov
Klasnic
Would be my line up.
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Boyata
Knight
Alonso
Eagles
Muamba
Pratley
Vela
Petrov
Klasnic
Would be my line up.
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
Muamba in - Pratley out
Klasnic in - Ngog out
Cant see Coyle dropping either Ricketts or Steinson as they were both good last week! If give Ream and Wheater another game see how they play together. As for the midfield need Muamba there rather than Pratley and then I'd give Klasnic a start to see what he can do from the off.. with Sordell coming from the bench!
Klasnic in - Ngog out
Cant see Coyle dropping either Ricketts or Steinson as they were both good last week! If give Ream and Wheater another game see how they play together. As for the midfield need Muamba there rather than Pratley and then I'd give Klasnic a start to see what he can do from the off.. with Sordell coming from the bench!
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
Sordell didn't play against Millwall because he was cup-tied. I'm guessing the rules haven't changed since then
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Wasnt aware of this, either way Klasnic must start!boltonboris wrote:Sordell didn't play against Millwall because he was cup-tied. I'm guessing the rules haven't changed since then
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
Well, I set the challenge and it's certainly stimulated conversation – and a wide spread of results.
For what it's worth, I'd be somewhere in the middle. I agree with the poster who said keep the centre-back combination, partly to help build a relationship there. Jussi needs match practice and with two big league games coming up I'd rest the full-backs (bringing in Alonso and Riley) and Reo-Coker (for Muamba).
Miyaichi and Pratley are still fresh. Ngog still makes the most sense up front – although we may have to sub him in the second half and Sordell's cup-tied. (Good as Klas is, it would be folly to switch to a four-man midfield at Spurs and he's not the man to lead the line, although if we're chasing it in the second half he could be a good link/second striker - perhaps coming on for Sparky to give him a rest.) Which leaves only a decision on the other winger: Petrov or Eagles? I'd be more inclined to play Eagles in the upcoming league games so it's one more game for Petrov, perhaps with a word in his ear that he's being pushed for a place.
So, for a variety of reasons, four changes: Jussi for Boggy, Riley for Steiner, Alonso for Ricketts and Muamba for NRC.
For what it's worth, I'd be somewhere in the middle. I agree with the poster who said keep the centre-back combination, partly to help build a relationship there. Jussi needs match practice and with two big league games coming up I'd rest the full-backs (bringing in Alonso and Riley) and Reo-Coker (for Muamba).
Miyaichi and Pratley are still fresh. Ngog still makes the most sense up front – although we may have to sub him in the second half and Sordell's cup-tied. (Good as Klas is, it would be folly to switch to a four-man midfield at Spurs and he's not the man to lead the line, although if we're chasing it in the second half he could be a good link/second striker - perhaps coming on for Sparky to give him a rest.) Which leaves only a decision on the other winger: Petrov or Eagles? I'd be more inclined to play Eagles in the upcoming league games so it's one more game for Petrov, perhaps with a word in his ear that he's being pushed for a place.
So, for a variety of reasons, four changes: Jussi for Boggy, Riley for Steiner, Alonso for Ricketts and Muamba for NRC.
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Got to play the strongest possible team and I feel Klasnic is just as good as Ngog. We can get a result on Saturday I'd say possibly a draw then bring them back to the reebok and turn them over. Would love another wembley trip awesome day out! COYWMDave Sutton's barnet wrote:Well, I set the challenge and it's certainly stimulated conversation – and a wide spread of results.
For what it's worth, I'd be somewhere in the middle. I agree with the poster who said keep the centre-back combination, partly to help build a relationship there. Jussi needs match practice and with two big league games coming up I'd rest the full-backs (bringing in Alonso and Riley) and Reo-Coker (for Muamba).
Miyaichi and Pratley are still fresh. Ngog still makes the most sense up front – although we may have to sub him in the second half and Sordell's cup-tied. (Good as Klas is, it would be folly to switch to a four-man midfield at Spurs and he's not the man to lead the line, although if we're chasing it in the second half he could be a good link/second striker - perhaps coming on for Sparky to give him a rest.) Which leaves only a decision on the other winger: Petrov or Eagles? I'd be more inclined to play Eagles in the upcoming league games so it's one more game for Petrov, perhaps with a word in his ear that he's being pushed for a place.
So, for a variety of reasons, four changes: Jussi for Boggy, Riley for Steiner, Alonso for Ricketts and Muamba for NRC.
Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
leyther95 wrote:Got to play the strongest possible team and I feel Klasnic is just as good as Ngog. We can get a result on Saturday I'd say possibly a draw then bring them back to the reebok and turn them over. Would love another wembley trip awesome day out! COYWMDave Sutton's barnet wrote:Well, I set the challenge and it's certainly stimulated conversation – and a wide spread of results.
For what it's worth, I'd be somewhere in the middle. I agree with the poster who said keep the centre-back combination, partly to help build a relationship there. Jussi needs match practice and with two big league games coming up I'd rest the full-backs (bringing in Alonso and Riley) and Reo-Coker (for Muamba).
Miyaichi and Pratley are still fresh. Ngog still makes the most sense up front – although we may have to sub him in the second half and Sordell's cup-tied. (Good as Klas is, it would be folly to switch to a four-man midfield at Spurs and he's not the man to lead the line, although if we're chasing it in the second half he could be a good link/second striker - perhaps coming on for Sparky to give him a rest.) Which leaves only a decision on the other winger: Petrov or Eagles? I'd be more inclined to play Eagles in the upcoming league games so it's one more game for Petrov, perhaps with a word in his ear that he's being pushed for a place.
So, for a variety of reasons, four changes: Jussi for Boggy, Riley for Steiner, Alonso for Ricketts and Muamba for NRC.
"just as good as" is a bit of a slippery concept to define... I suspect that most people on here rate Klasnic as "as good as" or even "better than" Ngog in many categories (not least goal-scoring)..
BUT - that's not the same as observing that they are very different kinds of player - and that playing Klas in the role that we currently play Ngog (lone striker) - the role we used to play SKD in - would have implications for our shape - simply because Ngog is better at that particular role than Klas... that's not to say Ngog is better then Klas full-stop...
Klas doesn't really suit the lone striker role - and so doesn't fit as easily into the 4-5-1 shape that appears to give us greater solidity...
but he does score goals when brought on as a second striker - wherein lies the formation conundrum!
Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
The only argument I have is why is our top goal scorer sat on the bench every single week and gets a game every so often. Plays in that role or not he is a natural goal scorer Ngog might fit better in that position but if your playing a lone striker they need to be able be able to bag a few goals!thebish wrote:leyther95 wrote:Got to play the strongest possible team and I feel Klasnic is just as good as Ngog. We can get a result on Saturday I'd say possibly a draw then bring them back to the reebok and turn them over. Would love another wembley trip awesome day out! COYWMDave Sutton's barnet wrote:Well, I set the challenge and it's certainly stimulated conversation – and a wide spread of results.
For what it's worth, I'd be somewhere in the middle. I agree with the poster who said keep the centre-back combination, partly to help build a relationship there. Jussi needs match practice and with two big league games coming up I'd rest the full-backs (bringing in Alonso and Riley) and Reo-Coker (for Muamba).
Miyaichi and Pratley are still fresh. Ngog still makes the most sense up front – although we may have to sub him in the second half and Sordell's cup-tied. (Good as Klas is, it would be folly to switch to a four-man midfield at Spurs and he's not the man to lead the line, although if we're chasing it in the second half he could be a good link/second striker - perhaps coming on for Sparky to give him a rest.) Which leaves only a decision on the other winger: Petrov or Eagles? I'd be more inclined to play Eagles in the upcoming league games so it's one more game for Petrov, perhaps with a word in his ear that he's being pushed for a place.
So, for a variety of reasons, four changes: Jussi for Boggy, Riley for Steiner, Alonso for Ricketts and Muamba for NRC.
"just as good as" is a bit of a slippery concept to define... I suspect that most people on here rate Klasnic as "as good as" or even "better than" Ngog in many categories (not least goal-scoring)..
BUT - that's not the same as observing that they are very different kinds of player - and that playing Klas in the role that we currently play Ngog (lone striker) - the role we used to play SKD in - would have implications for our shape - simply because Ngog is better at that particular role than Klas... that's not to say Ngog is better then Klas full-stop...
Klas doesn't really suit the lone striker role - and so doesn't fit as easily into the 4-5-1 shape that appears to give us greater solidity...
but he does score goals when brought on as a second striker - wherein lies the formation conundrum!
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quite... which is why it is a conundrum!!leyther95 wrote: The only argument I have is why is our top goal scorer sat on the bench every single week and gets a game every so often. Plays in that role or not he is a natural goal scorer Ngog might fit better in that position but if your playing a lone striker they need to be able be able to bag a few goals!
but I suspect you'd find Klas scoring a lot fewer goals if deployed in the starting lineup as lone striker... he doesn't make the link with the midfield as well as Ngog does - so he ends up looking isolated... plus - Spurs' back four would amble further up the pitch due to his not pressurising them - thus squeezing us back and putting us under further pressure...
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And the answer is... (wait for it) 4-4-2 (ta da).thebish wrote:quite... which is why it is a conundrum!!leyther95 wrote: The only argument I have is why is our top goal scorer sat on the bench every single week and gets a game every so often. Plays in that role or not he is a natural goal scorer Ngog might fit better in that position but if your playing a lone striker they need to be able be able to bag a few goals!
but I suspect you'd find Klas scoring a lot fewer goals if deployed in the starting lineup as lone striker... he doesn't make the link with the midfield as well as Ngog does - so he ends up looking isolated... plus - Spurs' back four would amble further up the pitch due to his not pressurising them - thus squeezing us back and putting us under further pressure...
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He has had little oppurtunity playing that lone stiker. I think Saturday will be a great chance to try him there and see if he can fit in which would be helpful for the 3 massive games following this weekend. Out of choice this would be my starting 11thebish wrote:quite... which is why it is a conundrum!!leyther95 wrote: The only argument I have is why is our top goal scorer sat on the bench every single week and gets a game every so often. Plays in that role or not he is a natural goal scorer Ngog might fit better in that position but if your playing a lone striker they need to be able be able to bag a few goals!
but I suspect you'd find Klas scoring a lot fewer goals if deployed in the starting lineup as lone striker... he doesn't make the link with the midfield as well as Ngog does - so he ends up looking isolated... plus - Spurs' back four would amble further up the pitch due to his not pressurising them - thus squeezing us back and putting us under further pressure...
Bogdan
Steinson
Ream
Wheater
Ricketts
Muamba
Davies
NGR
Petrov
Myachi
Klasnic
Jussi
Riley
Knight
Eagles
Pratley
Sordell
Ngog
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
The trouble is the question might be "which formation have we consistently struggled to get a result with, and more often than not been played off the park by the opposition when utilising?"The Axman wrote:And the answer is... (wait for it) 4-4-2 (ta da).thebish wrote:quite... which is why it is a conundrum!!leyther95 wrote: The only argument I have is why is our top goal scorer sat on the bench every single week and gets a game every so often. Plays in that role or not he is a natural goal scorer Ngog might fit better in that position but if your playing a lone striker they need to be able be able to bag a few goals!
but I suspect you'd find Klas scoring a lot fewer goals if deployed in the starting lineup as lone striker... he doesn't make the link with the midfield as well as Ngog does - so he ends up looking isolated... plus - Spurs' back four would amble further up the pitch due to his not pressurising them - thus squeezing us back and putting us under further pressure...
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Re: How many should OC rest/rotate/drop for Spurs?
If this is a cup game we can be experimental with I'd like to see Riley and Vela on the pitch, Boyata and Alonso too seeing as they're here.boltonboris wrote:Jussi
Riley
Boyata
Knight
Alonso
Eagles
Muamba
Pratley
Vela
Petrov
Klasnic
Would be my line up.
I think we should be able to rest a couple without getting a tonking, if we set up sensibly. I went with three as I can't see Coyle chucking in kids for it but we shouldn't get important players injured in the cup.
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I just don't see Klas up front on his own. He has neither the physical attributes of a big hold up man nor the pace and/or workrate of someone like Doyle or Long who can play it reasonably well. Pure finishers have had their day in football which is why he's best off the bench.
As for who to play up front on Saturday, I don't know really... Probably Davies, just for the sake of playing someone.
As for who to play up front on Saturday, I don't know really... Probably Davies, just for the sake of playing someone.
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