Trotters' Ultimate Legend

[Wandering Willy]

You saw him play for his school team didn't you Tango?

Well, I did once see Pele and co training on Bromwich Street (it was from afar mind).

Sorry to do this to a relatively young man like you,Tango, but this reminds me of a fascinating conversation I had at Wallasey Golf Club a couple of years ago with a guy in his 90s who had seen Bobby Jones qualify for the Open at Royal Liverpool in 1930, the year he won what was then the Grand Slam of the game (The Open, British Amateur, US Open, US Amateur all in one calendar year).

Two years ago he was still having lunch at Wallasey GC once a week. I hope he's still going strong now.

Oh and Nat Lofthouse for me - the fact that I only have tales from my late grandfather is precisely why my appreciation for Nat is as a 'legend', even if I was lucky enough to meet him as a ten year old some 16 years ago now (when he was still an impressive figure of a man).

My dad has the Nat Lofthouse 'Goals Galore' book out in his living room even today, I believe.

Don't forget to mention you've been to Wallasey GC.

[bw@bw]

Aye, my Dad has told me all about it and how they played at West Bromwich St. He took pictures of it all and I think got autographs as well. Think he was 16 at the time

Nat for me.

I saw him play - but only when he came out of retirement to protect the 16 year old wonder boy Franny Lee (who would be a candidate himself).

And Pele at Bromwich St in World Cup training

[YtarmyYtarmy]

Can't believe no one has mentioned Frank Worthington !! Our all time legend has to be Nat Lofthouse whether you have seen him play or not (I didnt) but come on !! a one team man with 452 appearances with 255 goals, coached, managed and the president of the club, we are having a statue built to the chap. On top of that the best goals to game ratio of an England player 30 goals in 33 appearances.

I'm surprised you needed to ask Robert !

[Prufrock]

David Nugent has a better goals to game ratio.

[Prufrock]

And if we're being serious, Steve Bloomer, the man Nat replaced as England's all time record scorer scored 28 in 23. We don't need to make stuff up for why he is a legend

[YtarmyYtarmy]

And if we're being serious, Steve Bloomer, the man Nat replaced as England's all time record scorer scored 28 in 23. We don't need to make stuff up for why he is a legend

Sorry my Bad

[Prufrock]

Don't worry, I've f*cked up too. I've done a bit of checking, and Nat didn't replace Steve Bloomer, but Vivian Woodward who popped up with 29 in 23, which is even better than Bloomer. Best who scored at least ten was George Camsell who apparently got 18 in NINE!

[YtarmyYtarmy]

Fair play, all creditable apart from Nugent 1 in 1 LOL ! Lesson learnt

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

You saw him play for his school team didn't you Tango?

Well, I did once see Pele and co training on Bromwich Street (it was from afar mind).

Sorry to do this to a relatively young man like you,Tango, but this reminds me of a fascinating conversation I had at Wallasey Golf Club a couple of years ago with a guy in his 90s who had seen Bobby Jones qualify for the Open at Royal Liverpool in 1930, the year he won what was then the Grand Slam of the game (The Open, British Amateur, US Open, US Amateur all in one calendar year).

Two years ago he was still having lunch at Wallasey GC once a week. I hope he's still going strong now.

Oh and Nat Lofthouse for me - the fact that I only have tales from my late grandfather is precisely why my appreciation for Nat is as a 'legend', even if I was lucky enough to meet him as a ten year old some 16 years ago now (when he was still an impressive figure of a man).

My dad has the Nat Lofthouse 'Goals Galore' book out in his living room even today, I believe.

Don't forget to mention you've been to Wallasey GC.

The significance is that that is where the said qualifier was played.

[Bruce Rioja]

Trevor Hebbard? No, me either

[jaffka]

no shinpads though, tough b@st@rd

[bobo the clown]

Trevor Hebbard, I'd forgotten about him. With us on loan, went on to have a decent Premiership career.

He looks a hairy beggar.

[wembley1995]

bob taylor

[thebish]

bob taylor

oh yes! SupaBob...

[wembley1995]

[Montreal Wanderer]

Lofthouse has to be the legend. Like Tango I saw him play but some old timers said that David Jack was better. Nat scored 255 goals for us in 452 appearances, or 0.56 goals per game. Jack scored 267 in his career but unfortunately only played with us for eight years (financial pressures made us sell him to Arsenal). He teamed up with the great Joe Smith in the twighlight of Joe's long career. Joe scored 254 goals for us in 449 appearances for an infinitesimally better gpg average than Nat. After playing with us for 19 years, Joe went to Stockport County where he scored 61 goals in 70 games over the next two years. Joe was a longtime manager of Blackpool and in addition to his FA Cup medals in 1923 and 1926 with us, he got one as manager in 1953 - yes, that final.

[TANGODANCER]

Never realised till today that Win Davis still lives in Bolton.(B.N). Not a legend but a dam good player for the Whites.

[jaffka]

John Byrom

[Montreal Wanderer]

Never realised till today that Win Davis still lives in Bolton.(B.N). Not a legend but a dam good player for the Whites.

I'm surprised he lives here since he wasn't with us that long (I assume you mean Wyn Davies). He was supposed to replace Nat after the injury but couldn't save us from relegation. He could jump.

Edit: After further checking he retired to be a baker in Bolton so you are correct.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Checked a little further and found this:

Although Wyn still considers his time on Tyneside to be the peak of his career, his ties with Bolton were strong enough to see him retire here. Wyn worked at Warburtons the bakers for 13 years before retiring and, at the age of 66, can still be seen walking his dogs in Queens Park, working out in the gym and having a bet on the nags. In short, a normal bloke whose life would have turned out much differently had he been plying his trade in the modern game and earning today’s wages.

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