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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:58 pm

So, between us we have

Bogdan (some votes for Lonergan too)

Tierney
Mills
Ream
Baptiste

CYL
Spearing
Medo
Hall

Eagles
Beckford

with a few for the bench and Mavies & Holden when/if fit in the mix

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:24 pm

Weird, Bobes, I was just counting 'em myself. According to my instruments:

Spearing 19
M Davies 18
Tierney 17
Medo 17
Hall 14
Eagles 13
Baptiste 12
Beckford 5
Ream 5
Bogdan 3
Holden 3
Lee 3
Lonergan 2
Lester 1
Mills 1
Ngog 1
Pratley 1

Putting that into a (4-2-3-1) formation with popularity in brackets, you can see the strengths and weaknesses:

.............................Bogdan (3)

Baptiste (12) Mills (1) Ream (5) Tierney (17)

................Spearing (19)...Medo (17)

Eagles (13).............Mavies (18)............Hall (14)

.............................Beckford (5)

Subs: Lonergan (2), Holden (3), Lee (3), Pratley (1), Ngog (1), Lester (Dan)

Some interesting stuff there. Barring the two summer full-back signings, only six votes for defenders - and only five for goalkeepers (well, six, with Boris's "either" vote). A big drop-off from Baptiste (12) to Beckford and Ream (5). One vote for Pratley, who's scored a quarter of our goals thus far. No votes from the most vocal Freedman naysayers, although they may be scared that if they express a positive opinion someone might think they're not tough. But there's widespread trust in a core group of players, most of all a midfield triangle of Spearing, Medo and Mavies, with a strong backing for Tierney and very honourable mentions for Hall and Eagles. Now, I wonder what would happen if we included the loanees...?

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:54 pm

I guess Feeney would get some votes. I like him, but we need to be sure ths isn't a (very bright) flash in the pan.
McNaughton would certainly be up there ... with Tierney out that'd be a gimme I guess
Danns, a bit early to say.


On the out-loans ... Andrews and Sordell being the prime ones (see how soon Eaves gets forgotten) They'd be worth a place on the bench I guess.

I'd still like to see Clough on that bench.
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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by boltonboris » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:01 pm

People would rather have Spearing than a fit Holden in their team?? My god, that's like binning off a Tunnocks caramel wafer and eating a Digestive instead!!
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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by thebish » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:05 pm

boltonboris wrote:People would rather have Spearing than a fit Holden in their team?? My god, that's like binning off a Tunnocks caramel wafer and eating a Digestive instead!!

i'm not really sure we were being offered a "fit Holden" - we were just being offered Holden - with all the uncertainty still attached!

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Loyal White » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:08 pm

boltonboris wrote:People would rather have Spearing than a fit Holden in their team?? My god, that's like binning off a Tunnocks caramel wafer and eating a Digestive instead!!
No, people would rather have a fit Spearing than crocked Holden.

I hope that the guy can get back to fitness but it'd be stupid to include him in any long-term plans until we get some evidence he can play again.

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:21 pm

thebish wrote:
boltonboris wrote:People would rather have Spearing than a fit Holden in their team?? My god, that's like binning off a Tunnocks caramel wafer and eating a Digestive instead!!
i'm not really sure we were being offered a "fit Holden" - we were just being offered Holden - with all the uncertainty still attached!
This, really.

I'd give Bish's right arm to have the Holden we had pre Johnny Evans but at the second I fear we will never see that again. So dealing with what we have, rather than may have, it's Spearing.

To be honest, I'd think it'd be Medo's place he'd gun for but it's all moot for now.
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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by boltonboris » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:33 pm

It was the one that named a starting XI and then him on the bench that confused me. If he's fit, he gets in my team before everybody else.
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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by TKIZ! » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:39 pm

Spearing
Eagles
Medo
Baptiste
Lonergan
Tierney
Pfffft.

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by StaffsTrotter » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:56 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Weird, Bobes, I was just counting 'em myself. According to my instruments:

Spearing 19
M Davies 18
Tierney 17
Medo 17
Hall 14
Eagles 13
Baptiste 12
Beckford 5
Ream 5
Bogdan 3
Holden 3
Lee 3
Lonergan 2
Lester 1
Mills 1
Ngog 1
Pratley 1

Putting that into a (4-2-3-1) formation with popularity in brackets, you can see the strengths and weaknesses:

.............................Bogdan (3)

Baptiste (12) Mills (1) Ream (5) Tierney (17)

................Spearing (19)...Medo (17)

Eagles (13).............Mavies (18)............Hall (14)

.............................Beckford (5)

Subs: Lonergan (2), Holden (3), Lee (3), Pratley (1), Ngog (1), Lester (Dan)

Some interesting stuff there. Barring the two summer full-back signings, only six votes for defenders - and only five for goalkeepers (well, six, with Boris's "either" vote). A big drop-off from Baptiste (12) to Beckford and Ream (5). One vote for Pratley, who's scored a quarter of our goals thus far. No votes from the most vocal Freedman naysayers, although they may be scared that if they express a positive opinion someone might think they're not tough. But there's widespread trust in a core group of players, most of all a midfield triangle of Spearing, Medo and Mavies, with a strong backing for Tierney and very honourable mentions for Hall and Eagles. Now, I wonder what would happen if we included the loanees...?
It is an interesting selection. The electorate clearly like our midfield, even though I'd struggle to think of many recent games we've dominated or been regularly creative in that area. Holden & Mavies are a bit of a fingers crossed job and really show how fate has been a bit of a nice person with Bwfc. I must be watching a different Baptiste than everyone else. Good to see the more creative trio of eagles, mavies and hall.

Out of the loanees - its really too soon but quite like the look of feeney. mcnaughton seemed solid enough but does make me think about the release of ricketts.

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:16 pm

thebish wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:Eagles (Those of you who didn't pick him, give your heads a shake :D )
Medo
Spearing
Baptiste
Beckford
Hall
swap Mavis for Eagles and we have a deal...
No way! Fingers crossed Mavis comes back stronger than ever and performs well without injury over a whole season. Since it's a big if - it has to be Eagles - one of our few, nay only, creative and goal scoring player.

No votes for Knight I notice ae:)
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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Enoch » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:31 pm

Enoch wrote:Could do this again tomorrow and doubtless the list would be different.
See, already wondering if I would keep Baptiste over Tierney.

I'm so fickle.

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:45 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
thebish wrote:
boltonboris wrote:People would rather have Spearing than a fit Holden in their team?? My god, that's like binning off a Tunnocks caramel wafer and eating a Digestive instead!!
i'm not really sure we were being offered a "fit Holden" - we were just being offered Holden - with all the uncertainty still attached!
This, really.

I'd give Bish's right arm to have the Holden we had pre Johnny Evans but at the second I fear we will never see that again. So dealing with what we have, rather than may have, it's Spearing.

To be honest, I'd think it'd be Medo's place he'd gun for but it's all moot for now.
Sorta interesting that permacrock Mavies got 13, and permacrock Holden only 3. If they both came back "as they were" and I had to pick one, it'd be Holden every time for me.

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:46 pm

Mark Davies first for me.
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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by bobo the clown » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:07 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:Mark Davies first for me.
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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:20 pm

Oi
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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:42 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
thebish wrote:
boltonboris wrote:People would rather have Spearing than a fit Holden in their team?? My god, that's like binning off a Tunnocks caramel wafer and eating a Digestive instead!!
i'm not really sure we were being offered a "fit Holden" - we were just being offered Holden - with all the uncertainty still attached!
This, really.

I'd give Bish's right arm to have the Holden we had pre Johnny Evans but at the second I fear we will never see that again. So dealing with what we have, rather than may have, it's Spearing.

To be honest, I'd think it'd be Medo's place he'd gun for but it's all moot for now.
Sorta interesting that permacrock Mavies got 13, and permacrock Holden only 3. If they both came back "as they were" and I had to pick one, it'd be Holden every time for me.
Difference for me is that Holden has managed half a dozen games between serious injuries. Mavies gets a few extra games in before inevitable injury. A choice between the 2, fully fit and injury free is easily Holden.

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by thebish » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:43 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:Mark Davies first for me.
you've always been a Davies fan! :D

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:49 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:Oi
You're just remembering all them perfectly weighted thru balls, that Supa Kev then banged away...won't work anymore coz Kev isn't here. :D

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Re: If you could pick six players...

Post by Enoch » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:09 pm

Worthy4England wrote:If they both came back "as they were" and I had to pick one, it'd be Holden every time for me.
Pretty big if for Holden I fancy; Davies on the other hand will have hopefully played a dozen or more games before the end of this term. As things stand Davies has a more realistic chance of being at his best come next August.

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