Mavies

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Pratley played as well as Mavies on Saturday.

Wht is everyone so besotted with Mavies anyway??

The difference when he came on against Fulham was enormous. He looks like the only one we have who wants to be on the ball and whose first instinct is to be positive.

Whether you've historically rated him or not, it seems to me that him being fit and finding some form is one of the few hopes that we have.

[Jugs]

Uhm, probably because he's the only one with some imagination left. Without him, we're pretty much completely plain and functional. Which is boring.

[Andy Waller]

Uhm, probably because he's the only one with some imagination left. Without him, we're pretty much completely plain and functional. Which is boring.

By that do you mean he just wants to dribble the ball? He'll do that regularly but at the end find neither the goal nor a man, which makes it all a bit pointless..

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Uhm, probably because he's the only one with some imagination left. Without him, we're pretty much completely plain and functional. Which is boring.

By that do you mean he just wants to dribble the ball? He'll do that regularly but at the end find neither the goal nor a man, which makes it all a bit pointless..

I'm not usually keen on him (or anyone else) dribbling, either: it's often vanity and frequently vainglorious. Passing the ball is almost always the best option. At Fulham he seemed the only midfielder capable of doing that (the defenders took it in turns to clonk it vaguely forward). Get men moving off the ball and he will try to find them; the dribbling tends to happen when they stand there gormlessly waiting for him to do something.

[Bruce Rioja]

Uhm, probably because he's the only one with some imagination left. Without him, we're pretty much completely plain and functional. Which is boring.

By that do you mean he just wants to dribble the ball? He'll do that regularly but at the end find neither the goal nor a man, which makes it all a bit pointless..

Yes, he should give it to Spearing, Pratley, Medo or Trotter so as to utilise their fantastic passing abilities instead!

BTW, DSB - can you do me a favour and dig out Marc Pugh's passing stats for Bournemouth (Personal request - nowt to do with the aforementioned).

[EverSoYouri]

Uhm, probably because he's the only one with some imagination left. Without him, we're pretty much completely plain and functional. Which is boring.

By that do you mean he just wants to dribble the ball? He'll do that regularly but at the end find neither the goal nor a man, which makes it all a bit pointless..

I'm not usually keen on him (or anyone else) dribbling, either: it's often vanity and frequently vainglorious. Passing the ball is almost always the best option. At Fulham he seemed the only midfielder capable of doing that (the defenders took it in turns to clonk it vaguely forward). Get men moving off the ball and he will try to find them; the dribbling tends to happen when they stand there gormlessly waiting for him to do something.

Half agree on this, DSB.

Mavies (and others who aren't quite at the Messi level) are always useful with tightly packed or well-martialled defences. The knack is (1) having them dribble in the opponents' final third and (2) having support on hand to give them options (or to pick up the loose ball if they are tackled). As things stand, Mavies doesn't do enough of (1) and his team mates don't do enough of (2).

[Jugs]

Uhm, probably because he's the only one with some imagination left. Without him, we're pretty much completely plain and functional. Which is boring.

By that do you mean he just wants to dribble the ball? He'll do that regularly but at the end find neither the goal nor a man, which makes it all a bit pointless..

Okay, you win. Let's stick to a midfield of Garvan, Pratley and Spearing. No thrust, attacking nous, adventure, confidence, definitely no dribbling, just lots of misplaced passes, hesitation and stuttering.

[EverSoYouri]

Uhm, probably because he's the only one with some imagination left. Without him, we're pretty much completely plain and functional. Which is boring.

By that do you mean he just wants to dribble the ball? He'll do that regularly but at the end find neither the goal nor a man, which makes it all a bit pointless..

Okay, you win. Let's stick to a midfield of Garvan, Pratley and Spearing. No thrust, attacking nous, adventure, confidence, definitely no dribbling, just lots of misplaced passes, hesitation and stuttering.

Fantastic! Are you available for interview this weekend?

[bobo the clown]

Uhm, probably because he's the only one with some imagination left. Without him, we're pretty much completely plain and functional. Which is boring.

By that do you mean he just wants to dribble the ball? He'll do that regularly but at the end find neither the goal nor a man, which makes it all a bit pointless..

Okay, you win. Let's stick to a midfield of Garvan, Pratley and Spearing. No thrust, attacking nous, adventure, confidence, definitely no dribbling, just lots of misplaced passes, hesitation and stuttering.

... & even then Medo can't get a look in.

And you forgot Trotter. You bloody well forgot our main man. The man who makes us tick. Dougie very own Holden. The man who's injury had us bereft. If only ..... if only ....

[Hoboh]

Mavies is ok for the odd few games he's fit to play every season, long term answer? No.

[Andy Waller]

Uhm, probably because he's the only one with some imagination left. Without him, we're pretty much completely plain and functional. Which is boring.

By that do you mean he just wants to dribble the ball? He'll do that regularly but at the end find neither the goal nor a man, which makes it all a bit pointless..

Okay, you win. Let's stick to a midfield of Garvan, Pratley and Spearing. No thrust, attacking nous, adventure, confidence, definitely no dribbling, just lots of misplaced passes, hesitation and stuttering.

... & even then Medo can't get a look in.

And you forgot Trotter. You bloody well forgot our main man. The man who makes us tick. Dougie very own Holden. The man who's injury had us bereft. If only ..... if only ....

I'd have Danns in a more forward role in midfield myself. I can't for the life of me see why Medo isn't getting a game.

[Worthy4England]

Mavies is ok for the odd few games he's fit to play every season, long term answer? No.

Worthy in Hoboh agreement shocker!

Is Mavies our best dribbler in MF? - almost certainly (albeit CYL at the top of his game isn't bad - just haven't seen that forever)

Does he play enough games - almost certainly not

Does he play to his potential in all the games he plays - almost certainly not

Is he a complete passenger when he goes missing - certainly

It's three times a season where it all comes together and he looks the part.

[Andy Waller]

Mavies is ok for the odd few games he's fit to play every season, long term answer? No.

Worthy in Hoboh agreement shocker!

Is Mavies our best dribbler in MF? - almost certainly (albeit CYL at the top of his game isn't bad - just haven't seen that forever)

Does he play enough games - almost certainly not

Does he play to his potential in all the games he plays - almost certainly not

Is he a complete passenger when he goes missing - certainly

It's three times a season where it all comes together and he looks the part.

Exactly. Yet people rave on about him like he's going to save the day for us.

[Jugs]

Mavies is ok for the odd few games he's fit to play every season, long term answer? No.

Worthy in Hoboh agreement shocker!

Is Mavies our best dribbler in MF? - almost certainly (albeit CYL at the top of his game isn't bad - just haven't seen that forever)

Does he play to his potential in all the games he plays - almost certainly not

Is he a complete passenger when he goes missing - certainly

It's three times a season where it all comes together and he looks the part.

This mostly sounds like you're describing all our players, with the exception of the dribbling and and the amount of games it all comes together - 3 games is a lot for a Bolton player, particularly one who doesn't play all that many games.

Maybe it's asking a lot for it to 'all come together' in a single game. A lot of fans directed criticism at Eagles during our first season in this division, despite him being top scorer. Did it all come together for him in every game he scored in? No, but his moments were crucial. He'd often go missing, but there's little doubting that his goals got us points. Same with Klasnic. Analysing a game as a whole is sure to bring up moments when a Championship player goes missing. But, for me, Mavies is one of our more astute players, one of the very few who can get the crowd a bit excited. One of the very few with a genuine desire to get the ball down and attack. And, you know, maybe he's often let down by the poor talent he has around him at the moment. It doesn't help that he's been managed by a very negative manager for the last 2 years.

My hope is that the new manager can get the best out of him. Because, for me, there is a very fine player in there.

[EverSoYouri]

Mavies is ok for the odd few games he's fit to play every season, long term answer? No.

Worthy in Hoboh agreement shocker!

Is Mavies our best dribbler in MF? - almost certainly (albeit CYL at the top of his game isn't bad - just haven't seen that forever)

Does he play to his potential in all the games he plays - almost certainly not

Is he a complete passenger when he goes missing - certainly

It's three times a season where it all comes together and he looks the part.

This mostly sounds like you're describing all our players, with the exception of the dribbling and and the amount of games it all comes together - 3 games is a lot for a Bolton player, particularly one who doesn't play all that many games.

Maybe it's asking a lot for it to 'all come together' in a single game. A lot of fans directed criticism at Eagles during our first season in this division, despite him being top scorer. Did it all come together for him in every game he scored in? No, but his moments were crucial. He'd often go missing, but there's little doubting that his goals got us points. Same with Klasnic. Analysing a game as a whole is sure to bring up moments when a Championship player goes missing. But, for me, Mavies is one of our more astute players, one of the very few who can get the crowd a bit excited. One of the very few with a genuine desire to get the ball down and attack. And, you know, maybe he's often let down by the poor talent he has around him at the moment. It doesn't help that he's been managed by a very negative manager for the last 2 years.

My hope is that the new manager can get the best out of him. Because, for me, there is a very fine player in there.

Yep.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Take Mavies out of the team and you take away the hope that something might happen. I also think we're more likely to see more from Chungy by having the likes of Mavies and other more technical players. We need to see a lot more from Mavies, but I'd rather have him than not at the moment.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

DSB - can you do me a favour and dig out Marc Pugh's passing stats for Bournemouth (Personal request - nowt to do with the aforementioned).

Pugh made 46 passes, 78.3% accurate, 5 long balls (3 accurate), 2 crosses, 1 through-ball. His midfield mate Surman made 66 passes with 93.9% accuracy (6 long, of which 3 were accurate, plus 2 key passes). Harry Arter was also tidy in midfield, with 85.9% accuracy from 64 passes - although in all these cases you have to note there'll have been quite a lot of keep-ball.

Numbers are all here, crunch away: http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/830163 ... ournemouth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Bruce Rioja]

DSB - can you do me a favour and dig out Marc Pugh's passing stats for Bournemouth (Personal request - nowt to do with the aforementioned).

Pugh made 46 passes, 78.3% accurate, 5 long balls (3 accurate), 2 crosses, 1 through-ball. His midfield mate Surman made 66 passes with 93.9% accuracy (6 long, of which 3 were accurate, plus 2 key passes). Harry Arter was also tidy in midfield, with 85.9% accuracy from 64 passes - although in all these cases you have to note there'll have been quite a lot of keep-ball.

Numbers are all here, crunch away: http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/830163 ... ournemouth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers Buddy.

[Hoboh]

DSB - can you do me a favour and dig out Marc Pugh's passing stats for Bournemouth (Personal request - nowt to do with the aforementioned).

Pugh made 46 passes, 78.3% accurate, 5 long balls (3 accurate), 2 crosses, 1 through-ball. His midfield mate Surman made 66 passes with 93.9% accuracy (6 long, of which 3 were accurate, plus 2 key passes). Harry Arter was also tidy in midfield, with 85.9% accuracy from 64 passes - although in all these cases you have to note there'll have been quite a lot of keep-ball.

Numbers are all here, crunch away: http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/830163 ... ournemouth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers Buddy.

You heard something or just won a fiver?

[Bruce Rioja]

DSB - can you do me a favour and dig out Marc Pugh's passing stats for Bournemouth (Personal request - nowt to do with the aforementioned).

Pugh made 46 passes, 78.3% accurate, 5 long balls (3 accurate), 2 crosses, 1 through-ball. His midfield mate Surman made 66 passes with 93.9% accuracy (6 long, of which 3 were accurate, plus 2 key passes). Harry Arter was also tidy in midfield, with 85.9% accuracy from 64 passes - although in all these cases you have to note there'll have been quite a lot of keep-ball.

Numbers are all here, crunch away: http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/830163 ... ournemouth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers Buddy.

You heard something or just won a fiver?

No, no. Nowt like that. Pugh's dad (an absolutely lovely fella) drives a stacker at our place and is as proud as punch of their Marc's achievements. I told him that I thought he'd played well on Saturday, had worked hard and played some intelligent passes, a view that he shared, but, alas, a view that wasn't shared by the match reporter in the Football League paper? who said that he'd had a poor game, that his passing was wayward, and had awarded him a dismal 4/10.
So, armed with DSB's stats I've just been down to show him that their kid did indeed have a very decent game indeed and that whoever the journo was that had given him such a poor review was clearly talking shite.

It's nice to put a smile on someone's face. I should try it more often.