Which muppet can we appoint next?

[Borg]

I'd choose Ian Holloway all day long if he was looking to get back into management. Although he is a bit of a nutter. He has a track record of being able to put together decent teams which play footie without much cash.

I would expect it to be Phil Brown though if I was going to make a bet. I heard from somewhere once that Phil Gartside said that Phil Brown would never manage the club as long as he was around. I think it's the job Sun Tan has always wanted.

We don't know who the Sports Shield backers are. They want to remain extremely private. I wouldn't be surprised if Big Sam isn't even in the background there pulling strings or investing himself. He always seemed to have a good relationship with football agents too.

I feel sorry for Lennon. I think he's had to deal with a pretty bad situation, but at the end of the day I think we have the players to do better than 4 wins.

If you look at the results, something 25 matches we've lost by one goal or drawn. That could easily have swung the other way. I think we nosedived since the assistant manager went home due to personal reasons.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Mjallby left the weekend we beat Wolves. Of the previous 15 league games, we'd won one. Things would get worse without the Swede but they were hardly brilliant when he was here.

[Enoch]

I'd choose Ian Holloway all day long if he was looking to get back into management. Although he is a bit of a nutter. He has a track record of being able to put together decent teams which play footie without much cash.

I would expect it to be Phil Brown though if I was going to make a bet. I heard from somewhere once that Phil Gartside said that Phil Brown would never manage the club as long as he was around. I think it's the job Sun Tan has always wanted.

We don't know who the Sports Shield backers are. They want to remain extremely private. I wouldn't be surprised if Big Sam isn't even in the background there pulling strings or investing himself. He always seemed to have a good relationship with football agents too.

I feel sorry for Lennon. I think he's had to deal with a pretty bad situation, but at the end of the day I think we have the players to do better than 4 wins.

If you look at the results, something 25 matches we've lost by one goal or drawn. That could easily have swung the other way. I think we nosedived since the assistant manager went home due to personal reasons.

Shook my head so much it damn near fell off.

[Enoch]

Mjallby left the weekend we beat Wolves. Of the previous 15 league games, we'd won one. Things would get worse without the Swede but they were hardly brilliant when he was here.

Make no bones about it, Mjallby was a show pony and whether he was here or not none of the players would have really noticed.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'd be furious if Brown was appointed. He's an arrogant, egotistical bully and I don't want him anywhere near the club. It's not even like he's a good manager either, he's a failure at a decent level and assuming we get relegated this year, if he got us promoted the next, so what? It's not like he's going to get us back into the Premier League, we'd just be sacking him 18 months later when we're struggling in the Championship. If it was a choice between Brown or Coyle, I'd give Coyle my 100% support.

Hopefully we get someone on the up who wants to get us playing nice football and will focus on the youth set up we've got. Unfortunately, if we are to be in League One next year, finding someone who matches that is a much harder task.

Absolute bollocks. He worked a bloody miracle at Hull at the time taking them up then keeping them there for a year.

And he's done a great job at Southend with little money. He won't have much money here.

We need experience. Brown has that. I think he's ideal.

[TANGODANCER]

Allardyce's contract at West Ham was reputed to be £6m over two years. I suspect it's not peanuts at Sunderland. Unless he's fed up of earning that sort of cash, can't see why he'd do anything for us.

If I remember rightly, amongst Sam's reasons for leaving were lack of ambition and not letting him spend money. I can't see our current situation promoting either. I'd love him back, but I think it's pipe - dreaming...

[BWFC_Insane]

Reckon Browny fancies it....these quotes from this afternoon .

I’m happy as manager of Southend United but I am ambitious and I want to get back to the highest possible level,” said Brown, who has been in charge of the Shrimpers for the past three years.

“I want to have another crack at the Premier League but I have a big job on my hands with Southend and that’s all I’m focusing on at the moment."

[Dr Hotdog]

If we get it right, we have reasons to be excited about League 1 football ala Norwich under Lambert and Southampton under Adkins. Both promoted from League 1 and with the momentum they promoted themselves through the Championship back into the big time. Grant Holt and Rickie Lambert the two respective top-scorers for the clubs (in both promotion seasons). Get that fecking Madine DROSS out. ASAP. If we start League 1 with him in the first team squad next season we aint goin nowhere and slowly. Incredibly, tediously slowly.

[danardif1]

League 1 is probably Madine's level actually...

[Dr Hotdog]

League 1 is probably Madine's level actually...

YAY!

[thebish]

Reckon Browny fancies it....these quotes from this afternoon .

I’m happy as manager of Southend United but I am ambitious and I want to get back to the highest possible level,” said Brown, who has been in charge of the Shrimpers for the past three years.

“I want to have another crack at the Premier League but I have a big job on my hands with Southend and that’s all I’m focusing on at the moment."

in which case - why come to us? what could possibly lead anyone to think we'll be having a crack at the premier league any time soon??

[danardif1]

League 1 is probably Madine's level actually...

YAY!

There was a hint of sarcasm there...

It's the only league he's actually scored any number of goals in, but I'd rather be shot of him too...

[wigan white]

League 1 is probably Madine's level actually...

It think this is more Madine's level

[danardif1]

Well he'd still miss the goal when playing against them as well... It's not necessarily his efforts other than shots and headers it's that he can't hit a barn door nevermind a goal...

[BWFC_Insane]

Reckon Browny fancies it....these quotes from this afternoon .

I’m happy as manager of Southend United but I am ambitious and I want to get back to the highest possible level,” said Brown, who has been in charge of the Shrimpers for the past three years.

“I want to have another crack at the Premier League but I have a big job on my hands with Southend and that’s all I’m focusing on at the moment."

in which case - why come to us? what could possibly lead anyone to think we'll be having a crack at the premier league any time soon??

He's coming IF we can agree the compensation for him and he can sort out a contractural issue down there.



Edit: But I agree it is an odd way to phrase it given we will be league one. But I suspect he thinks there is more chance of getting is to the top flight at some point than Southend.

[thebish]

Reckon Browny fancies it....these quotes from this afternoon .

I’m happy as manager of Southend United but I am ambitious and I want to get back to the highest possible level,” said Brown, who has been in charge of the Shrimpers for the past three years.

“I want to have another crack at the Premier League but I have a big job on my hands with Southend and that’s all I’m focusing on at the moment."

in which case - why come to us? what could possibly lead anyone to think we'll be having a crack at the premier league any time soon??

He's coming IF we can agree the compensation for him and he can sort out a contractural issue down there.



Edit: But I agree it is an odd way to phrase it given we will be league one. But I suspect he thinks there is more chance of getting is to the top flight at some point than Southend.

yes - but WHY would he think that?

[BWFC_Insane]

Reckon Browny fancies it....these quotes from this afternoon .

I’m happy as manager of Southend United but I am ambitious and I want to get back to the highest possible level,” said Brown, who has been in charge of the Shrimpers for the past three years.

“I want to have another crack at the Premier League but I have a big job on my hands with Southend and that’s all I’m focusing on at the moment."

in which case - why come to us? what could possibly lead anyone to think we'll be having a crack at the premier league any time soon??

He's coming IF we can agree the compensation for him and he can sort out a contractural issue down there.



Edit: But I agree it is an odd way to phrase it given we will be league one. But I suspect he thinks there is more chance of getting is to the top flight at some point than Southend.

yes - but WHY would he think that?

Deano has been buttering him up.....probably...

I think ultimately we can attract bigger crowds than Southend and presumably have more spending power longer term. Better ground and probably more commercial income generating possibilities.

[SmokinFrazier]

I'd be furious if Brown was appointed. He's an arrogant, egotistical bully and I don't want him anywhere near the club. It's not even like he's a good manager either, he's a failure at a decent level and assuming we get relegated this year, if he got us promoted the next, so what? It's not like he's going to get us back into the Premier League, we'd just be sacking him 18 months later when we're struggling in the Championship. If it was a choice between Brown or Coyle, I'd give Coyle my 100% support.

Hopefully we get someone on the up who wants to get us playing nice football and will focus on the youth set up we've got. Unfortunately, if we are to be in League One next year, finding someone who matches that is a much harder task.

Absolute bollocks. He worked a bloody miracle at Hull at the time taking them up then keeping them there for a year.

And he's done a great job at Southend with little money. He won't have much money here.

We need experience. Brown has that. I think he's ideal.

His success at Hull was 8 years ago. To put that into perspective, it's only 5 years since Coyle did an incredible job at Burnley and had a good season with us, but time changes our perception of things and we found out that with Coyle, it was not indicative of his level as a manager. The job Brown did with Hull wasn't indicative of his level either, it was merely a good spell, like it was for Coyle. He got sacked by Hull, did awful at PNE and then found his level with a League Two club which, granted, he's done ok for but there's nothing in his recent record that suggests he can take us as far as we want to go.

Someone like Brown or Holloway are probably enough for us to get promoted from League One but we should be looking more long term than that. I don't want another failure at Championship level in charge, I want us to appoint someone who is a promising young manager, can have a successful time in League One and then has some new ideas and thoughts to get us promoted from the Championship when we're back in it. Brown will see us get relegated, get us promoted again and then we'll sack him after an unsuccessful period in the Champion because that's all he's capable of. I want us to go for someone who has more potential than that.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'd be furious if Brown was appointed. He's an arrogant, egotistical bully and I don't want him anywhere near the club. It's not even like he's a good manager either, he's a failure at a decent level and assuming we get relegated this year, if he got us promoted the next, so what? It's not like he's going to get us back into the Premier League, we'd just be sacking him 18 months later when we're struggling in the Championship. If it was a choice between Brown or Coyle, I'd give Coyle my 100% support.

Hopefully we get someone on the up who wants to get us playing nice football and will focus on the youth set up we've got. Unfortunately, if we are to be in League One next year, finding someone who matches that is a much harder task.

Absolute bollocks. He worked a bloody miracle at Hull at the time taking them up then keeping them there for a year.

And he's done a great job at Southend with little money. He won't have much money here.

We need experience. Brown has that. I think he's ideal.

His success at Hull was 8 years ago. To put that into perspective, it's only 5 years since Coyle did an incredible job at Burnley and had a good season with us, but time changes our perception of things and we found out that with Coyle, it was not indicative of his level as a manager. The job Brown did with Hull wasn't indicative of his level either, it was merely a good spell, like it was for Coyle. He got sacked by Hull, did awful at PNE and then found his level with a League Two club which, granted, he's done ok for but there's nothing in his recent record that suggests he can take us as far as we want to go.

Someone like Brown or Holloway are probably enough for us to get promoted from League One but we should be looking more long term than that. I don't want another failure at Championship level in charge, I want us to appoint someone who is a promising young manager, can have a successful time in League One and then has some new ideas and thoughts to get us promoted from the Championship when we're back in it. Brown will see us get relegated, get us promoted again and then we'll sack him after an unsuccessful period in the Champion because that's all he's capable of. I want us to go for someone who has more potential than that.

Firstly, it is a nonsense to suggest we should be looking as far as you suggest. We will be in league one and may struggle to get out of it. We need a manager who has some knowledge of the lower leagues. We have no idea what resources sports shield have so competing in the championship for promotion may be realistically years away yet.

Secondly, Brown has a mixed mangerial record, failures at Derby and Preston but massive success at Hull and Southend. That is far from a guarantee of anything, but he knows the clu and more crucially has success at a club where they have limited finance and has overachieved in those circumstances.

Coyle is partly and quite significantly responsible for a generation's worth of damage to this football club. Even if Brown does poorly here he wouldn't at least have the millions to chuck away that Coyle did. So the damage will be fairly limited.

I'd say Brown is very much worth a go and has as good a set of credentials of any manager we realistically will likely attract. Remember it is no sure thing that we can afford to get him out of his contract at Southend. Puts into perspective where we currently sit.

[Jugs]

Coyle was green when we bagged him. One and a half years at Burnley and a year or so up in Scotland was all he had under his belt. Plus shorts and a load of motivational pep-talk.

Brown has more experience. He's been there, made mistakes and presumably learned from them.