The ianevattable sacking

[officer_dibble]

The fact that Marc Iles has put ‘context’ in quotation marks speaks volumes…

https://x.com/marciles/status/183016584 ... o4TppbHkNQ

You didn't have to play players at Shrewsbury Evatt. You could have rested them and played a couple of the kids.

It’s a midweek game in August. Why are our players so unfit they can’t manage it? They’ve got a break now! It’s a laughable excuse.

[The_Gun]

The fact that Marc Iles has put ‘context’ in quotation marks speaks volumes…

https://x.com/marciles/status/183016584 ... o4TppbHkNQ

You didn't have to play players at Shrewsbury Evatt. You could have rested them and played a couple of the kids.

Exactly.

Plus, how many of our rivals had perfect preseasons and didn’t sign players late in the window? How many of them aren’t regularly putting kids on the bench?

Evatt needs to take more ownership of this situation.

[Worthy4England]

It beggars belief. To have a bit more context, our 1 League win was against Orient who have lost all their league games including 3-0 to Shrewsbury, yesterday...

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

The fact that Marc Iles has put ‘context’ in quotation marks speaks volumes…

https://x.com/marciles/status/183016584 ... o4TppbHkNQ

You didn't have to play players at Shrewsbury Evatt. You could have rested them and played a couple of the kids.

It’s a midweek game in August. Why are our players so unfit they can’t manage it? They’ve got a break now! It’s a laughable excuse.

Agree. But "if" there were genuine fitness concerns then play anybody but them. Nobody gives a shit about anything other than promotion this season.

[Worthy4England]

I'm starting to give a shit, more about the other end of the table, mate!

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Oh, and if I see Thomason, Dempsey and Sheehan as the midfield trio starting again he can be sacked immediately on sight. He's done that to death and it doesn't work. I'd rather see Lofty the Lion or one of the ball boys thrown in.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I'm starting to give a shit, more about the other end of the table, mate!

The sun is shining for about the 4th time in a year, so I'm glowing with positivity

[The_Gun]

Let’s not forget that we have likely been the second biggest spenders in the division this summer. We should have a squad good enough to absorb minor injuries to a few players.

[Bertie Wooster]

He goes on about injuries and players not up to speed, then targets out of contract players at the end of the transfer window - those out of contract players that need months to get fit.

[GhostoftheBok]

We had a 750k forward, who didn't start on Tuesday, sat on the bench for over an hour.

Unless he's carrying an injury I have questions.

We're 4 games into a 46 games season, with an international break going into a home game where we can make up some ground on a promotion rival.

We've got 4 forwards who have double figures in previous League One seasons and yet we haven't scored in 3 league games. Sort it out, rip into Huddersfield and change the tone.

[DJBlu]

Personally I would send out the back room staff and close shop with the media. No one believes what he says so what's the point.

So many angry folk over something so simple. He's human at the end of the day and wether you like it or not he isn't doing it on purpose to wind you up.

What if he's saying is true and they players aren't up to speed? A new manager will have the same issue.

About not having to play them, does he not have to under the rules of fairness of the game? And if he doesn't, oh he's thrown the cup and we still lost to Exeter. Megson 101.

He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Pity as the minority is becoming the majority.

If he leaves he'll get another job and no doubt will be successful.

Don't forget we've had Keith Hill under this ownership. I also hope that any new man doesn't look on social media as we've been pretty nasty in the past including some of our own.

[BWFC_Insane]

We had a 750k forward, who didn't start on Tuesday, sat on the bench for over an hour.

Unless he's carrying an injury I have questions.

We're 4 games into a 46 games season, with an international break going into a home game where we can make up some ground on a promotion rival.

We've got 4 forwards who have double figures in previous League One seasons and yet we haven't scored in 3 league games. Sort it out, rip into Huddersfield and change the tone.

I have a question. Evatt says we are tired and have players who haven’t had full pre seasons etc.

The other week he said Vic who looked sharp pre season is in the best shape he’s ever been.

Why then isn’t he playing if others are fatigued and not in good shape?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

About not having to play them, does he not have to under the rules of fairness of the game? And if he doesn't, oh he's thrown the cup and we still lost to Exeter. Megson 101.

If his comments apply to the whole team then something is very very wrong. Assuming he meant a few players (understandable) then chucking in a few youngsters isn't going to get us in any trouble. If players aren't fit to play he'll have the data and let the league fine us and have the PR disaster for saying we have to risk the health of players for an arbitrary rule.

Players are either fit enough to play or not.

[GhostoftheBok]

Why then isn’t he playing if others are fatigued and not in good shape?

Vic picked up a back injury. Evatt already said that's why he's not starting games at the minute.

[GhostoftheBok]

Players are either fit enough to play or not.

If it were that simple it'd be great. You have to be able to show a player is injured or ill, not that they are at risk of injury. You have to provide signed-off medical reports on any absentee, upon request.

We also can't withhold Toal from Northern Ireland. His injury is one where he can technically play, but he's likely to cause himself serious harm. The player then has to excuse themselves and he's seemingly been told that will impact future call ups, as Charles was last season.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Players are either fit enough to play or not.

If it were that simple it'd be great. You have to be able to show a player is injured or ill, not that they are at risk of injury. You have to provide signed-off medical reports on any absentee, upon request.

We also can't withhold Toal from Northern Ireland. His injury is one where he can technically play, but he's likely to cause himself serious harm. The player then has to excuse themselves and he's seemingly been told that will impact future call ups, as Charles was last season.

Well feck them then, because that is just plain madness.

[TANGODANCER]

Having been a manager over workmen several times, I always have believed that at any level, people sack them selves by not being good enough to do the job they were hired to do. That way, usefulness and skills are clearly defined. Ian Evatt is Bolton Wanderers manager and the League is a long race. To call for his head after a bad start is not quite making sense to me. I'm as annoyed as the rest at our display over the last couple of games, but to shaft a proven decent manager seems more than a bit bad judgement. I'm not for shooting ourselves in the foot chasing a pipe-dream. Que Sera, as ever for me.

I'm not looking to form a fan club.

[GhostoftheBok]

Well feck them then, because that is just plain madness.

Just have to cross out fingers.

Evatt's clearly worried about it. If that thigh tear gets worse he could lose him for months and not weeks.

[Worthy4England]

I doubt most thinking now is the time are making a judgement over 4 games, TD, in isolation of the last 5 years. I also doubt he would get sacked inside 10, but there is a sequence of results that could lead there. As someone (I think Pru) said pre-KO, he's landed us (and him) in a place where perception was Exeter was a "must win."

[Bertie Wooster]

Why are some people trying to defend him as he's only had 4 games - he's not only had 4 games, he's had around 36 since NYD and has won what 12 ?

Also, the majority of the team is the same as in those 36 games - seriously why does he need more games ?, is he going to change the way we play, instruct the team to stop tip tapping about, are the players going to pass quicker, play with more urgency, tempo, intensity - are the players going to start delivering good corners & free kicks, are the wing backs going to get forward and deliver decent crosses.

Those defending Evatt please tell - what will giving him even more time achieve, he won't change anything - he's convinced himself (and I assume the board ?), that his way is the only way to get promoted and then stay up. He came 5 years ago as a bit of a visionary with his Barrowcelona stuff, but 5 years later he's actually become a dinosaur set in his obsessed way.