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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by Bertie Wooster » Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:19 pm

latest social media rumour David Hughes Man Utd U21 manager being linked.

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Re: Options for the next manager

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As manager or new coach?

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Re: Options for the next manager

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officer_dibble wrote:
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As manager or new coach?
Manager I think.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:53 pm

Rumours I guess, Sharon’s backed the current incumbent. I hope they are sounding people out though.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by nicholaldo » Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:37 pm

I don't think there's anything in that, other than his agent (seemingly incorrectly) getting a whiff of a potential opportunity and putting his name out there.

If there's a conversation, it seems it's one way.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:44 am

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I don't think there's anything in that, other than his agent (seemingly incorrectly) getting a whiff of a potential opportunity and putting his name out there.

If there's a conversation, it seems it's one way.
You might be right, but I did also hear that name from someone close to the club.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by The_Gun » Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:41 am

Man United U21s Assistant Manager would be a bold hire indeed.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:06 am

It’s basically cos of Kieran McKenna. So wouldn’t dismiss straight away. But the longer we persist with Evatt the less confident I am we know what’s required in a manager so the more left wing hires will then start to raise doubt for me. Whereas a Schumacher or whatever you think well he’s done that job already, so it makes sense.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:40 pm

This is a question for anyone who watches more than I do (everyone).

When Schon first played, I forget the game, but I saw a lot of favourable noises on here. Now, it seems like he's awful.

My question is... Did they buy a decent player who showed what he can do in the first game, then got told to play differently which is what he's doing now/recently?

I'm thinking it could be a bit like England in the Euros. You get some decent players on the pitch and tell them to play a certain way or get benched they play the way you want them to, which might not look very good.

So, that's my question.

My hope would be that a more pragmatic manager could get people like Schon playing better. Take the handbrake off, maybe.

I'm wondering if the players have downed tools, or just aren't very good players or if it's just that the tactics that aren't getting the most out of them. I mention Schon, but Collins was league one player of the year, so I'm sure he's not alone. The keeper too, if you have to pass on the floor to a defender who's just in front of you alongside an attacker, it must be very different to hoofing it.
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Re: Options for the next manager

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Armchair Wanderer wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:40 pm
This is a question for anyone who watches more than I do (everyone).

When Schon first played, I forget the game, but I saw a lot of favourable noises on here. Now, it seems like he's awful.

My question is... Did they buy a decent player who showed what he can do in the first game, then got told to play differently which is what he's doing now/recently?

I'm thinking it could be a bit like England in the Euros. You get some decent players on the pitch and tell them to play a certain way or get benched they play the way you want them to, which might not look very good.

So, that's my question.

My hope would be that a more pragmatic manager could get people like Schon playing better. Take the handbrake off, maybe.

I'm wondering if the players have downed tools, or just aren't very good players or if it's just that the tactics that aren't getting the most out of them. I mention Schon, but Collins was league one player of the year, so I'm sure he's not alone. The keeper too, if you have to pass on the floor to a defender who's just in front of you alongside an attacker, it must be very different to hoofing it.
Schon is making an awful lot of individual mistakes. Running into trouble, losing the ball, misplaced passes, awful crosses. I don't think he's a bad player - they don't give international caps out for fun - but I think he's struggling to adjust.

I do think there's something to be said for the system taking far longer to bed in than was initially suspected.

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Re: Options for the next manager

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truewhite15 wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:10 pm
Armchair Wanderer wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:40 pm
This is a question for anyone who watches more than I do (everyone).

When Schon first played, I forget the game, but I saw a lot of favourable noises on here. Now, it seems like he's awful.

My question is... Did they buy a decent player who showed what he can do in the first game, then got told to play differently which is what he's doing now/recently?

I'm thinking it could be a bit like England in the Euros. You get some decent players on the pitch and tell them to play a certain way or get benched they play the way you want them to, which might not look very good.

So, that's my question.

My hope would be that a more pragmatic manager could get people like Schon playing better. Take the handbrake off, maybe.

I'm wondering if the players have downed tools, or just aren't very good players or if it's just that the tactics that aren't getting the most out of them. I mention Schon, but Collins was league one player of the year, so I'm sure he's not alone. The keeper too, if you have to pass on the floor to a defender who's just in front of you alongside an attacker, it must be very different to hoofing it.
Schon is making an awful lot of individual mistakes. Running into trouble, losing the ball, misplaced passes, awful crosses. I don't think he's a bad player - they don't give international caps out for fun - but I think he's struggling to adjust.

I do think there's something to be said for the system taking far longer to bed in than was initially suspected.
I suspect he’s a very decent technical player. But we need a driving, dynamic, wing back full of pace and running. And no amount of adjustment will make him into that.

It’s buying the wrong sort of players - I don’t think we necessarily sign bad players, we just don’t sign what we need in many cases.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:11 pm

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Looks like Couhig's Reading takeover has brokmen down or at least stalled. Which might make Selles more possible, if we ever decided we need a new manager.
The news this morning is that Couhig has pulled out, had his bridging loans repaid and walked away. Terrible news for Reading fans, and they have my sympathy. Interesting news for anyone eyeing Selles as a manager.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by dave the minion » Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:15 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:40 pm
This is a question for anyone who watches more than I do (everyone).

When Schon first played, I forget the game, but I saw a lot of favourable noises on here. Now, it seems like he's awful.

My question is... Did they buy a decent player who showed what he can do in the first game, then got told to play differently which is what he's doing now/recently?

I'm thinking it could be a bit like England in the Euros. You get some decent players on the pitch and tell them to play a certain way or get benched they play the way you want them to, which might not look very good.

So, that's my question.

My hope would be that a more pragmatic manager could get people like Schon playing better. Take the handbrake off, maybe.

I'm wondering if the players have downed tools, or just aren't very good players or if it's just that the tactics that aren't getting the most out of them. I mention Schon, but Collins was league one player of the year, so I'm sure he's not alone. The keeper too, if you have to pass on the floor to a defender who's just in front of you alongside an attacker, it must be very different to hoofing it.
Saw him at the friendly against Port Vale. Looked like there was definitely a player in there: bombed up and down the pitch and showed some nice touches going forward, and pretty solid defensively. I was particularly impressed given he'd only signed a day or so earlier and probably only just me the rest of the team.

Since then he's struggled a bit - the intensity of the league wasn't there v Port Vale so I think that's curtailed him, but I do think he is a good player and we haven't seen the best of him at all yet.

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Re: Options for the next manager

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dave the minion wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:15 pm
Armchair Wanderer wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:40 pm
This is a question for anyone who watches more than I do (everyone).

When Schon first played, I forget the game, but I saw a lot of favourable noises on here. Now, it seems like he's awful.

My question is... Did they buy a decent player who showed what he can do in the first game, then got told to play differently which is what he's doing now/recently?

I'm thinking it could be a bit like England in the Euros. You get some decent players on the pitch and tell them to play a certain way or get benched they play the way you want them to, which might not look very good.

So, that's my question.

My hope would be that a more pragmatic manager could get people like Schon playing better. Take the handbrake off, maybe.

I'm wondering if the players have downed tools, or just aren't very good players or if it's just that the tactics that aren't getting the most out of them. I mention Schon, but Collins was league one player of the year, so I'm sure he's not alone. The keeper too, if you have to pass on the floor to a defender who's just in front of you alongside an attacker, it must be very different to hoofing it.
Saw him at the friendly against Port Vale. Looked like there was definitely a player in there: bombed up and down the pitch and showed some nice touches going forward, and pretty solid defensively. I was particularly impressed given he'd only signed a day or so earlier and probably only just me the rest of the team.

Since then he's struggled a bit - the intensity of the league wasn't there v Port Vale so I think that's curtailed him, but I do think he is a good player and we haven't seen the best of him at all yet.
Started well then struggled. Sounds like a certain Pavel Olkowski. Hopefully he turns it around so he isn't Schon the door.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:13 pm

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:21 pm

My god I completely forgot about him

Series suggestion for next summer: Full-Backs I've Forgotten

Think Lennon alone might have signed about six, and then ignored them all when he started playing wingbacks cos his mate David Brentan Rodgers did, even when our results showed what a daft idea it was

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by Bertie Wooster » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:24 pm

Whoever the next manager is I just hope that he appreciates the BWFC support more than Evatt has, every time things go wrong he has a sly dig at the fans like the 'negativity towards me' comment post match on Saturday.

Almost 4,000 sold for Arsenal with a week to go, a match with no absolutely no chance of winning, on a Tuesday night and a bottle less team & manager who don't know their arse from their elbow - absolutely fantastic support, they really don't deserve it.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by truewhite15 » Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:05 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:21 pm
My god I completely forgot about him

Series suggestion for next summer: Full-Backs I've Forgotten

Think Lennon alone might have signed about six, and then ignored them all when he started playing wingbacks cos his mate David Brentan Rodgers did, even when our results showed what a daft idea it was
See also: Jose Manuel Casado, Francesco Pisano.

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:30 pm

The amount of players we’ve had in the last 15 years who are total non entities is frightening. We’ve wasted some cash haven’t we!

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Re: Options for the next manager

Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:44 pm

TonyDomingos wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:36 pm

Are we not going to bide our time until the current Plymouth manager becomes available? :D
Just catching up with this thread. As per the Paul Ince suggestion, if you're reading this Sharon, this too ^ is a joke.
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