In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

[Prufrock]

If there's money there it should go to the manager. If they don't want to give it to the manger, that answers a different question.

I hear you but isn't that the sunk cost fallacy writ large, with fans' money?

I get it - Sharon stands by her man like a bespectacled Tammy Wynette - but she's also made clear the task is promotion. At that point, should we be entrusting the incumbent with multi-year contracts?

I don't think so. The money is whatever the money is. If you (they) think he's the right man you back him. If not you get rid. If we don't have the cash because we spent it all in summer fine, equally if it's only there for a push if we look likely to go up, also fine. I don't think you should half back managers. It just wastes time.

[DJBlu]

Evatt has told Wycombe, if they want Aaron then they're going to have to pay as he's being recalled in Jan.

[irie Cee Bee]

Evatt has told Wycombe, if they want Aaron then they're going to have to pay as he's being recalled in Jan.

Recalled to sit on the bench because he cannot tippy tap with the football??

[Mar]

Evatt has told Wycombe, if they want Aaron then they're going to have to pay as he's being recalled in Jan.

Makes sense from a rug pull perspective. Can't let our competition benefit from our players whilst we miss out. Might as well hinder the opposition.

[officer_dibble]

Evatt has told Wycombe, if they want Aaron then they're going to have to pay as he's being recalled in Jan.

He’ll go at the end of Jan after some negotiation. He can’t play for anyone else this season and Evatt needs money to fund another throw of the dice.

I’d not be bothered if Santos went personally - I don’t see him signing a new deal, and I am convinced he’s the one that drives the formation that cannot be changed. Infact if I were Evatt I’d be actively trying to sell him. Could bring in a proper leader as well if he left.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Evatt has told Wycombe, if they want Aaron then they're going to have to pay as he's being recalled in Jan.

He’ll go at the end of Jan after some negotiation. He can’t play for anyone else this season and Evatt needs money to fund another throw of the dice.

I see the logic, and you might well be right; Evatt's being very cagey - maybe he thinks Wycombe's plush new owners will splurge on someone who's already proven very important to a successful team.

But that's kinda that point. We're approaching an absolutely crucial transfer window, thinking "Where can we find players who can take the team to the top of the league?"
<recalls player who's taken team to the top of the league>
<sells player who's taken team to the top of the league, to the team at the top of the league>

It makes some sense in isolation but if it happens and they finish above us - say, 2nd to our 3rd - it will be regarded as Evatt's folly, on a Bernie Slaven scale except even more like inexplicable self-harm.

(For younger viewers, Bernie Slaven was made available by Middlesbrough just before the 1992/93 deadline, and was chased by Bolton - managed by his old boss Bruce Rioch - and our promotion rivals Port Vale. He chose Vale, and watched us overtake them to seal promotion. He left Vale the following season, dropped into the Fourth and retired soon after.)

[Mar]

Evatt has told Wycombe, if they want Aaron then they're going to have to pay as he's being recalled in Jan.

He’ll go at the end of Jan after some negotiation. He can’t play for anyone else this season and Evatt needs money to fund another throw of the dice.

I see the logic, and you might well be right; Evatt's being very cagey - maybe he thinks Wycombe's plush new owners will splurge on someone who's already proven very important to a successful team.

But that's kinda that point. We're approaching an absolutely crucial transfer window, thinking "Where can we find players who can take the team to the top of the league?"
<recalls player who's taken team to the top of the league>
<sells player who's taken team to the top of the league, to the team at the top of the league>

It makes some sense in isolation but if it happens and they finish above us - say, 2nd to our 3rd - it will be regarded as Evatt's folly, on a Bernie Slaven scale except even more like inexplicable self-harm.

(For younger viewers, Bernie Slaven was made available by Middlesbrough just before the 1992/93 deadline, and was chased by Bolton - managed by his old boss Bruce Rioch - and our promotion rivals Port Vale. He chose Vale, and watched us overtake them to seal promotion. He left Vale the following season, dropped into the Fourth and retired soon after.)

My money's on Evatt being coy because the transfer of Aaron Morley has already been done. Not doubt it'll end up listed as undisclosed and comments will come out about not wanting to stand in a players way or bring him back to where it wasn't working for him.

The comments will fall on deaf ears and the fans will be upset. Perhaps we're trying to balance the books to bring in the likes of Maghoma at the time but it never panned out, who knows. What is clear is that we're half way through the season having been woefully under prepared for the most of it.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Was wondering if we'll be back in for Joel Randall at Posh - I see he's not in today's team that's losing 3-0 at home to Mansfield

[Mar]

Was wondering if we'll be back in for Joel Randall at Posh - I see he's not in today's team that's losing 3-0 at home to Mansfield

My initial thought when Connell came off was similar. Maybe he's coming off because he's a potential transfer target for someone. Similarly I thought the same when we weren't being physical at him. Would explain why Connell was crap and Thomason was crap, both game changers and neither performed well.

[GhostoftheBok]

We have some of the division's best attacking talent doing absolutely sod-all. Randall is a talented lad and if you showed me a generic squad with these players I'd say "Yeah, he'd fit"...but you can't make that assumption when we're looking toothless with players like Collins and McAtee in the 11 who have ripped teams apart at this level before.

If you look at today's game it was crying out for Morley's passing range (as shown at Wycombe) to find the runners that the lads on the pitch couldn't; but as others have said he should have been doing that here before and wasn't. He may already be on his way, who knows?

Collins, Thommo, McAtee, etc would all be welcomed with open arms at Wycombe. Half our players would improve their squad, but they're 16 points above us.

2-3 new players won't fix the issue that 20-odd others are well off it.

[BWFC_Insane]

We have some of the division's best attacking talent doing absolutely sod-all. Randall is a talented lad and if you showed me a generic squad with these players I'd say "Yeah, he'd fit"...but you can't make that assumption when we're looking toothless with players like Collins and McAtee in the 11 who have ripped teams apart at this level before.

If you look at today's game it was crying out for Morley's passing range (as shown at Wycombe) to find the runners that the lads on the pitch couldn't; but as others have said he should have been doing that here before and wasn't. He may already be on his way, who knows?

Collins, Thommo, McAtee, etc would all be welcomed with open arms at Wycombe. Half our players would improve their squad, but they're 16 points above us.

2-3 new players won't fix the issue that 20-odd others are well off it.

Doesn’t matter if the players are good or not - they like the manager are mentally weak cowards and therefore all the technique in the world won’t help.

[The_Gun]

We have some of the division's best attacking talent doing absolutely sod-all. Randall is a talented lad and if you showed me a generic squad with these players I'd say "Yeah, he'd fit"...but you can't make that assumption when we're looking toothless with players like Collins and McAtee in the 11 who have ripped teams apart at this level before.

If you look at today's game it was crying out for Morley's passing range (as shown at Wycombe) to find the runners that the lads on the pitch couldn't; but as others have said he should have been doing that here before and wasn't. He may already be on his way, who knows?

Collins, Thommo, McAtee, etc would all be welcomed with open arms at Wycombe. Half our players would improve their squad, but they're 16 points above us.

2-3 new players won't fix the issue that 20-odd others are well off it.

Doesn’t matter if the players are good or not - they like the manager are mentally weak cowards and therefore all the technique in the world won’t help.

Are you certain, then, that if a new manager came in they wouldn’t be able to mould this group of players into a contender?

[BWFC_Insane]

We have some of the division's best attacking talent doing absolutely sod-all. Randall is a talented lad and if you showed me a generic squad with these players I'd say "Yeah, he'd fit"...but you can't make that assumption when we're looking toothless with players like Collins and McAtee in the 11 who have ripped teams apart at this level before.

If you look at today's game it was crying out for Morley's passing range (as shown at Wycombe) to find the runners that the lads on the pitch couldn't; but as others have said he should have been doing that here before and wasn't. He may already be on his way, who knows?

Collins, Thommo, McAtee, etc would all be welcomed with open arms at Wycombe. Half our players would improve their squad, but they're 16 points above us.

2-3 new players won't fix the issue that 20-odd others are well off it.

Doesn’t matter if the players are good or not - they like the manager are mentally weak cowards and therefore all the technique in the world won’t help.

Are you certain, then, that if a new manager came in they wouldn’t be able to mould this group of players into a contender?

A manager with some serious experience and fortitude might with an addition or two. I think it will take a massive culture change though and that’s hard to achieve without some players who bring those standards and attitudes.

[officer_dibble]

BWFC-I is spot on and has been saying it for months.

Saved my cash today. Checked at half time, knew we would draw. Amused to see we bottled it even further.

It’s no surprise to me the only game we are missing santos for we actually battled aand fought for a point. It’s criminal it’s come to that with this level of investment of course.

The only way to “move the needle” in January is to drop the spreadsheet or research a new column that says “pair of bollocks”. We need proper men, a leader and some character to raise standards. Not the same old fannies we keep signing.

[Mar]

A new manager would breathe a breath of fresh air to proceedings and presumably give those currently at the club a nudge in the right direction.

There's no player that I actively dislike at the club, just a group of players putting in performances that I don't like.

I actually quite like Evatt's way of playing, but it's quite evident that there's something really wrong at the minute and it needs changing.

January transfer window can't come soon enough. We need new signings to get through this with Evatt. I just don't see it happening.

[Harry Genshaw]

We have some of the division's best attacking talent doing absolutely sod-all. Randall is a talented lad and if you showed me a generic squad with these players I'd say "Yeah, he'd fit"...but you can't make that assumption when we're looking toothless with players like Collins and McAtee in the 11 who have ripped teams apart at this level before.

If you look at today's game it was crying out for Morley's passing range (as shown at Wycombe) to find the runners that the lads on the pitch couldn't; but as others have said he should have been doing that here before and wasn't. He may already be on his way, who knows?

Collins, Thommo, McAtee, etc would all be welcomed with open arms at Wycombe. Half our players would improve their squad, but they're 16 points above us.

2-3 new players won't fix the issue that 20-odd others are well off it.

This is key for me. I can't work any enthusiasm up about who we might try and sign in this coming window because recent experience suggests whoever it is, they'll be looking 5hite within 3 or 4 months.

Evatts had incredible backing and I believe he has a squad of players better than most in the division. He's no longer capable of getting a tune out of them and as said on here, most of the players have gone backwards or significantly decreased in value.

[Mar]

We have some of the division's best attacking talent doing absolutely sod-all. Randall is a talented lad and if you showed me a generic squad with these players I'd say "Yeah, he'd fit"...but you can't make that assumption when we're looking toothless with players like Collins and McAtee in the 11 who have ripped teams apart at this level before.

If you look at today's game it was crying out for Morley's passing range (as shown at Wycombe) to find the runners that the lads on the pitch couldn't; but as others have said he should have been doing that here before and wasn't. He may already be on his way, who knows?

Collins, Thommo, McAtee, etc would all be welcomed with open arms at Wycombe. Half our players would improve their squad, but they're 16 points above us.

2-3 new players won't fix the issue that 20-odd others are well off it.

This is key for me. I can't work any enthusiasm up about who we might try and sign in this coming window because recent experience suggests whoever it is, they'll be looking 5hite within 3 or 4 months.

Evatts had incredible backing and I believe he has a squad of players better than most in the division. He's no longer capable of getting a tune out of them and as said on here, most of the players have gone backwards or significantly decreased in value.

Totally agree. If we look at the players that he has used over the years i'm seeing a few players that have increased in value and made a difference. Take the likes of George Thomason, Bakayoko or Dapo Afolayan. There are far more examples of us chucking away good money and not getting a tune out of players.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Evatts had incredible backing and I believe he has a squad of players better than most in the division. He's no longer capable of getting a tune out of them and as said on here, most of the players have gone backwards or significantly decreased in value.

Agreed. No way should we be as low as 10th.

[BWFC_Insane]

A new manager would breathe a breath of fresh air to proceedings and presumably give those currently at the club a nudge in the right direction.

There's no player that I actively dislike at the club, just a group of players putting in performances that I don't like.

I actually quite like Evatt's way of playing, but it's quite evident that there's something really wrong at the minute and it needs changing.

January transfer window can't come soon enough. We need new signings to get through this with Evatt. I just don't see it happening.

If Evatt and that fraud Markham are allowed to spend more money in the next window I’d put that decision up there with anything of the Anderson’s. It would be utterly irresponsible to let them spend yet more money given they’ve wasted more money than any Bolton setup I can remember.

Sharon should be considering what funding is available for next season if/when season ticket sales tank. Because that’s a very plausible business scenario right now.

[Bertie Wooster]

As loads have said previously in other windows we need a couple of big physical players in January, players with bottle and nous who absolutely hate losing (like Humphrys at Barnsley) and would run through brick walls for 90 mins, ones who know the dark arts, ones who will wind up the opposition and do a few sly things on the pitch if required - instead of our choir boy, yes sir no sir, weak, brittle, roll over and have your bellies ticked bottlers.