Pre-season 2025

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Re: Pre-season 2025

Post by Prufrock » Wed Jul 09, 2025 12:01 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:41 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:09 pm
The_Gun wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:03 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 8:54 pm
Dalby has never had a hamstring injury in his career, a couple of days into pre season with us and bang.

I know it can happen anytime, but questions need to be asked about the BWFC training methods and intensity for 2 x players to get hamstring injuries a couple of days into pre season - surely they should be eased back not straight into high intensity training ?
You’re already querying Schuey’s training methods?
I said BWFC training methods not SS specifically, I'm sure its not all on SS he will have fitness staff who oversee the high intensity stuff.
I think it's a reasonable question, mate. This has been going on for a while with new signings and I agree that Schumacher unlikely to be creating individual training plans. Given the Dalby amongst the first to be recruited under Schumacher, he might not have twigged it's been a long term problem (not talking about people pulling hammy's in a match etc.). The number we lose to hammy within the first week or so of signing is a problem for us.
I don't really get this. It's a completely new staff. The only possible continuity between regimes is the ground they're training on and from what I can work out they're on their jollies anyway.

Everyone gets injuries, but unless the badge is cursed we're on a new broom (FWIW I think there's enough to say the last regime were doing something wrong, but the new new lot, feck knows)
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Re: Pre-season 2025

Post by Mar » Wed Jul 09, 2025 12:34 am

Prufrock wrote:
Wed Jul 09, 2025 12:01 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:41 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:09 pm
The_Gun wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:03 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 8:54 pm
Dalby has never had a hamstring injury in his career, a couple of days into pre season with us and bang.

I know it can happen anytime, but questions need to be asked about the BWFC training methods and intensity for 2 x players to get hamstring injuries a couple of days into pre season - surely they should be eased back not straight into high intensity training ?
You’re already querying Schuey’s training methods?
I said BWFC training methods not SS specifically, I'm sure its not all on SS he will have fitness staff who oversee the high intensity stuff.
I think it's a reasonable question, mate. This has been going on for a while with new signings and I agree that Schumacher unlikely to be creating individual training plans. Given the Dalby amongst the first to be recruited under Schumacher, he might not have twigged it's been a long term problem (not talking about people pulling hammy's in a match etc.). The number we lose to hammy within the first week or so of signing is a problem for us.
I don't really get this. It's a completely new staff. The only possible continuity between regimes is the ground they're training on and from what I can work out they're on their jollies anyway.

Everyone gets injuries, but unless the badge is cursed we're on a new broom (FWIW I think there's enough to say the last regime were doing something wrong, but the new new lot, feck knows)
I would imagine that we have a set training programme that was created prior to Schumacher coming aboard and that has just persisted without really raising any red flags. These injuries could easily be dismissed as 'unfortunate' or 'bad luck', but it may be more indicative of how we're training and the intensity it puts on certain parts of the body.

It's become some what of a running joke that we'll sign someone and they'll be out injured pretty much straight away.

I suspect that we're just persisting with training programmes until the penny drops on the medic teams. After all we're likely using data science to indicate how they should be training.

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