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[Hoboh]

Coyle not to blame?

Does anyome know the name of the guy who Coyle employs to coach the defence? and who's responsable for sorting them tactically?

Alice headband given all the time in the world, unmarked! to let go a damm good shot and almosst pick to yhe inch where it went

Mark "world class" Davies (well according to some on here) casually strolls back allowing van der fart to run unmarked for the second!

No one even half trys to get back and fill the bloody great "supertanker" size hole between our cental defenders for the third.

The fourth was inevitible!

T'other end Petrov puts a few decent balls across and concrete boots Davo wouldn't get on them by sunday, Bambi mk11 ngog has no chance, Clown brings on the slowest guy we have to "do something" did Klas actually kick the ball in anger?

West Brom will stuff us unless we stop giving the ball away via big hoofs to Davo or sloopy passes, afraid we are more than likely to go down this time.

AND 99% OF IT IS THE FAULT OF THAT TIT COYLE!!!

[William the White]

Coyle not to blame?

Does anyome know the name of the guy who Coyle employs to coach the defence? and who's responsable for sorting them tactically?

Alice headband given all the time in the world, unmarked! to let go a damm good shot and almosst pick to yhe inch where it went

From a corner that should not have been awarded but, true, not aware of the danger enough and too slow to respond to it... Not sure how much difference it makes... when you face a genius he sometimes acts like a genius...

Mark "world class" Davies (well according to some on here) casually strolls back allowing van der fart to run unmarked for the second!

Davis had a dreadful game. he often does in a 4-4-2... We are, obviously, not blessed with much choice in midfield at the moment... but we are in formation, and I'm sorry that coyle went for a very risky 4-4-2 when what we really needed was the point, and hope for more... 4-5-1 also frees davis (M) to doing some free-spirit stuff, like running at defenders, as opposed to hiding behind the bike sheds

No one even half trys to get back and fill the bloody great "supertanker" size hole between our cental defenders for the third.

We were reeling... They were faster and better... mostly the defence performed well enough, particularly in the centre where Ream and Wheater worked hard and well against formidable opponents... midfield, on the other hand, apart from Reo Coker - and, tbf, Eagles put in a shift also...

The fourth was inevitible!

T'other end Petrov puts a few decent balls across and concrete boots Davo wouldn't get on them by sunday, Bambi mk11 ngog has no chance, Clown brings on the slowest guy we have to "do something" did Klas actually kick the ball in anger?

He had, i think, one shot, missed by a distance but was hit hard and properly. Klasnic is our only authentic goal scorer - you think coyle was a 'clown' for bringing him on? You can be disappointed by SKD's performance tonight, but presumably were cheered by it i n the previous two away games, where his goals helped get us 4 points, and I know you admired his excellent contribution to the excellent goal we scored... Coyle was right to select him, imho..

West Brom will stuff us unless we stop giving the ball away via big hoofs to Davo or sloopy passes, afraid we are more than likely to go down this time.

We start like we started the second half and we will rock WBA. They are a very decent team, and a club I quite like, because of mates that support them, but they are not Spurs on a good night. If we play at our best we have every chance of three points. I recognise that 'if' might be a fair size...

AND 99% OF IT IS THE FAULT OF THAT TIT COYLE!!!

Unlike you, hoboh, to post complete and utter bollocks. As you know i usually hold your opinions in high regard...

[Armchair Wanderer]

Generally agree with what Hoboh's saying in terms of the game.

At 1-1 if we didn't go kamikaze we may have drawn the game. The last 3 goals were all because we were pushing on, from what I can remember.

So, would you/we have been happy to see us playing for a draw? In hindsight a point would have been really useful what with our goal difference an' all.

[SmokinFrazier]

Had we played for a draw, they'd have likely beaten us anyway simply because they're the better team. I imagine Coyle would get some stick from people on here if that had happened. They'd say "We lost 2-1, why didn't Coyle make them carry on like they started the second half?!?! Clueless cvnt!!".

They'd probably be right in that scenario too. Yeah, we got caught because a few players didn't track back like they should have but did the attacking style work in the second half? We got a goal and made them look extremely nervy until the second goal, so you'd have to say yes.

After the third, everything went to pot but I can't criticize the manager too much. We went for it, it was working, we got caught by one of the best wingers in the world and we conceded a couple of quick goals. It happens.

[a1]

that it'll happen against westbrom and stoke is what does me. it has in the recent past.

bastard

[adamworthy2002]

I hate how Coyle when we're losing rather than put an extra man up front and really go for it just makes like for like changes and leaves it at 4 - 4 - 2.

[malcd1]

Had we played for a draw, they'd have likely beaten us anyway simply because they're the better team. I imagine Coyle would get some stick from people on here if that had happened. They'd say "We lost 2-1, why didn't Coyle make them carry on like they started the second half?!?! Clueless cvnt!!".

They'd probably be right in that scenario too. Yeah, we got caught because a few players didn't track back like they should have but did the attacking style work in the second half? We got a goal and made them look extremely nervy until the second goal, so you'd have to say yes.

After the third, everything went to pot but I can't criticize the manager too much. We went for it, it was working, we got caught by one of the best wingers in the world and we conceded a couple of quick goals. It happens.

I think this just abouts sums it up. Yes, we were gung-ho when the score was 1-1. Yes, Coyle is naive when it comes to tactics and defending. But he can't be accused of going down without having a go.

Not getting something out of that game makes our job harder but it is not over just yet.

[officer_dibble]

Having slept on it I cant get the feeling that too often we look like we did last night, off the pace and helpless. No way are we an elite club anymore and its only by virtue of others being woeful that we are in with a chance of staying up.

Its shocking how often we have not competed in games, and there is no joy in watching us get dicked week after week...maybe playing in a league more at our level is for the best.

The application was there, again, last night. As ever the quality wasnt.

[bobo the clown]

Our threadbare squad was shown to be wanting by what is a very good team. Fantastically fast, especially on the counter attack. We gave it a serious go in that 15m period, but that, in the end, just allowed Spurs to rip us a new one.

I am convinced that Davies can't put in 2 matches a week & would be better from the bench. I appreciate that N'Gog works hard, but what else does he do ? Petrov is trying so damn hard, but with no-one able to beneifit from it. Eagles, typically, can be great one game & offer little the next.

NRC, great effort, nice goal, but keeping him on for 10m after he felt him hammy go will probably mean we'll not see him again this season. Vela, I thought, looked good ... Well, certainly looked like he felt he deserved to be on that pitch. No lack of self belief.

As said before, if we go down it won't be because of losing to Spurs.

[BWFC_Insane]

Coyle not to blame?

Does anyome know the name of the guy who Coyle employs to coach the defence? and who's responsable for sorting them tactically?

Alice headband given all the time in the world, unmarked! to let go a damm good shot and almosst pick to yhe inch where it went

From a corner that should not have been awarded but, true, not aware of the danger enough and too slow to respond to it... Not sure how much difference it makes... when you face a genius he sometimes acts like a genius...

Mark "world class" Davies (well according to some on here) casually strolls back allowing van der fart to run unmarked for the second!

Davis had a dreadful game. he often does in a 4-4-2... We are, obviously, not blessed with much choice in midfield at the moment... but we are in formation, and I'm sorry that coyle went for a very risky 4-4-2 when what we really needed was the point, and hope for more... 4-5-1 also frees davis (M) to doing some free-spirit stuff, like running at defenders, as opposed to hiding behind the bike sheds

No one even half trys to get back and fill the bloody great "supertanker" size hole between our cental defenders for the third.

We were reeling... They were faster and better... mostly the defence performed well enough, particularly in the centre where Ream and Wheater worked hard and well against formidable opponents... midfield, on the other hand, apart from Reo Coker - and, tbf, Eagles put in a shift also...

The fourth was inevitible!

T'other end Petrov puts a few decent balls across and concrete boots Davo wouldn't get on them by sunday, Bambi mk11 ngog has no chance, Clown brings on the slowest guy we have to "do something" did Klas actually kick the ball in anger?

He had, i think, one shot, missed by a distance but was hit hard and properly. Klasnic is our only authentic goal scorer - you think coyle was a 'clown' for bringing him on? You can be disappointed by SKD's performance tonight, but presumably were cheered by it i n the previous two away games, where his goals helped get us 4 points, and I know you admired his excellent contribution to the excellent goal we scored... Coyle was right to select him, imho..

West Brom will stuff us unless we stop giving the ball away via big hoofs to Davo or sloopy passes, afraid we are more than likely to go down this time.

We start like we started the second half and we will rock WBA. They are a very decent team, and a club I quite like, because of mates that support them, but they are not Spurs on a good night. If we play at our best we have every chance of three points. I recognise that 'if' might be a fair size...

AND 99% OF IT IS THE FAULT OF THAT TIT COYLE!!!

Unlike you, hoboh, to post complete and utter bollocks. As you know i usually hold your opinions in high regard...

WtW yes Spurs have better players than us. They have better players than 75% of the league.

However, can you explain why in that case that was their first away win in 2012, and why furthermore, only a few weeks ago our relegation rivals QPR managed to beat them?

The fact is that the way Coyle sets us up, doesn't give us a chance against teams with "better players" in. But other sides and managers seem capable of getting results against "better players".

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Generally agree with what Hoboh's saying in terms of the game.

At 1-1 if we didn't go kamikaze we may have drawn the game. The last 3 goals were all because we were pushing on, from what I can remember.

So, would you/we have been happy to see us playing for a draw? In hindsight a point would have been really useful what with our goal difference an' all.

It's not really hindisght when it's obvious before the game though...

[thebish]

However, can you explain why in that case that was their first away win in 2012, and why furthermore, only a few weeks ago our relegation rivals QPR managed to beat them?

hmmmmm......

QPR beat Spurs at home
Bolton lost to Spurs at home
QPR were hammered by Bolton at home


Bolton beat Blackburn at home
QPR drew with Blackburn at home


Bolton beat Wolves at home
QPR lost to Wolves at home


how do you "explain" any of that???

[Salford Trotter]

We can debate all we want now but the fact is we're on the brink and we need to put our prejudices on one side and focus on supporting the team for the remainder of the season

[BWFC_Insane]

However, can you explain why in that case that was their first away win in 2012, and why furthermore, only a few weeks ago our relegation rivals QPR managed to beat them?

hmmmmm......

QPR beat Spurs at home
Bolton lost to Spurs at home
QPR were hammered by Bolton at home


Bolton beat Blackburn at home
QPR drew with Blackburn at home


Bolton beat Wolves at home
QPR lost to Wolves at home


how do you "explain" any of that???

Thats not the point I'm making. People saying "we can't blame Coyle cos Spurs have better players".

They do.

But all season that excuse has been used, and probably could have been used for many seasons.

We set up in the wrong way to contain those "better players". And have done consistently all season.

Our naivety was exposed last night, when we chased the game at 1-1 against a superior side with bags of pace!! The way we clearly had been instructed to play with a high line was suicide against Spurs.

We may have lost anyhow. But it was not an impossible task, with the right approach and tactics. As QPR (for example) have already proven!

[thebish]

Thats not the point I'm making. People saying "we can't blame Coyle cos Spurs have better players".

but the way you tried to make your point was to point out that one team (who you say are better managed) beat a team that we lost to.

it is still true that the team you say are better managed lost at home to relegation rivals that we beat at home.

applying your logic - then you'd have to say that Coyle sets us up better to play our relegation rivals than Hughes sets QPR up - wouldn't you?

but you don't...

[thebish]

not sure if its posted previously but this has to be the best news we could expect in prepartion for the game
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/General/0,,1 ... 14,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Come on Fabrice!!!!!

unless it turns into a massive hooplah distraction....

It has to help, surely!

hmmmmm.............

[BWFC_Insane]

Thats not the point I'm making. People saying "we can't blame Coyle cos Spurs have better players".

but the way you tried to make your point was to point out that one team (who you say are better managed) beat a team that we lost to.

it is still true that the team you say are better managed lost at home to relegation rivals that we beat at home.

applying your logic - then you'd have to say that Coyle sets us up better to play our relegation rivals than Hughes sets QPR up - wouldn't you?

but you don't...

We didn't beat Wolves at the Reebok....but anyhow....

Do you think we were set up in the best possible way to get a result from Spurs? Yes or No????

[General Mannerheim]

Ive seen fewer games this season than i have in any other season in the last 10/12 years, but from what i have seen, this is the worst football, worst squad, worst season we have had in the prem. If we stay up i think he should be instantly sacked. No point if we go down, but he is clearly inept at this level.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Nothing that a bunch of spanish kids cant fix.

[Salford Trotter]

not sure if its posted previously but this has to be the best news we could expect in prepartion for the game
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/General/0,,1 ... 14,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Come on Fabrice!!!!!

unless it turns into a massive hooplah distraction....

It has to help, surely!

hmmmmm.............

We'll never know if it helped or hindered the team but I know it gave the crowd a lift. We were beaten by the better side last night so it's time to move on and prepare for WBA, there's a twist or two yet.