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Re: Palace Game

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:23 pm

boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Anyway see that some Palace fans are not happy with Holloway.

Their form has dipped since he took over.
Their players have probably turned into a bunch of fat, lazy bastards. Coyle MKII
Your'e right we was ace before with what, today being our first away clean sheet in 32 games?

Perhaps Palace's form highlights what a decent job Freedman had done there, and maybe we should be a little bit patient?

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Re: Palace Game

Post by BL3 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:26 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Anyway see that some Palace fans are not happy with Holloway.

Their form has dipped since he took over.
Their players have probably turned into a bunch of fat, lazy bastards. Coyle MKII
Your'e right we was ace before with what, today being our first away clean sheet in 32 games?

Perhaps Palace's form highlights what a decent job Freedman had done there, and maybe we should be a little bit patient?
So he's only responsible for the good performances then?

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Re: Palace Game

Post by boltonboris » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:35 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Anyway see that some Palace fans are not happy with Holloway.

Their form has dipped since he took over.
Their players have probably turned into a bunch of fat, lazy bastards. Coyle MKII
Your'e right we was ace before with what, today being our first away clean sheet in 32 games?

Perhaps Palace's form highlights what a decent job Freedman had done there, and maybe we should be a little bit patient?
I was agreeing with you, you whopper!

Holloway is notoriously lax. He's a 'positivity' manager. And when that wears off, there's feck all left
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Re: Palace Game

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:37 pm

BL3 wrote:So he's only responsible for the good performances then?
Sigh. Go on then, I'll bite.

Freedman took over Palace when they were 2nd bottom in the Championship and left them 2nd (?) from the top.

Coyle took us down and then left when we were in 16th in the Championship.

That doesn't mean Dougie is ace but even you cant deny (can you?) that he built a good side at Palace.
What was Coyle's legacy at Bolton?
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Re: Palace Game

Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:43 pm

We had bad times under Coyle..

We had some good times too.

We have had bad times under Freedman.
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Re: Palace Game

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:58 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:Great result and very happy with a clean sheet.

Not picking Sordell doesn't have to mean poor man management does it?
For all any of us on here know, he and DF have been having long chats about his state of mind and fitness levels and Dougie is slowly building his self belief up again. This is a bloke who was supposed to be severely homesick and hadn't kicked a ball for us in months. 2 goals in midweek doesn't mean everything is suddenly ok again. Marv could have known by Wednesday that he wasn't going to figure today. We just dont know.
if we've seen anything from his interviews over these past weeks it's that Freedman makes decisions and if they go right shows a smug, self satified "told you so" response. When they don't & so a furore develops he gives ffrustrated half-explanations.

These sort of justify what he's done and then, the following week, he changes it (despite having defended it the week before.

So, if I'm right, anticipate a half-arsed explanation, followed by Sordell starting next week.
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Re: Palace Game

Post by BL3 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:59 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
BL3 wrote:So he's only responsible for the good performances then?
Sigh. Go on then, I'll bite.

Freedman took over Palace when they were 2nd bottom in the Championship and left them 2nd (?) from the top.

Coyle took us down and then left when we were in 16th in the Championship.

That doesn't mean Dougie is ace but even you cant deny (can you?) that he built a good side at Palace.
What was Coyle's legacy at Bolton?
I couldn't care less what he did at Palace. I'm more concerned about what he's doing at Bolton. If he's responsible for the good performances, then he's also responsible for the poor ones.

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Re: Palace Game

Post by jaffka » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:30 pm

TKIZ! wrote:Palace not lost at home all season, I'm relatively happy with a point
I agree with this, I think that a draw was a very good result.

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Re: Palace Game

Post by chester white » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:32 pm

BL3 wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:
BL3 wrote:So he's only responsible for the good performances then?
Sigh. Go on then, I'll bite.

Freedman took over Palace when they were 2nd bottom in the Championship and left them 2nd (?) from the top.

Coyle took us down and then left when we were in 16th in the Championship.

That doesn't mean Dougie is ace but even you cant deny (can you?) that he built a good side at Palace.
What was Coyle's legacy at Bolton?
I couldn't care less what he did at Palace. I'm more concerned about what he's doing at Bolton. If he's responsible for the good performances, then he's also responsible for the poor ones.
I'm sure you defended Coyle the other day, you know when you described him as a "successful manager", by using examples of what he'd done at previous clubs. Coyle took us over when we were 18th in the Prem. He left us 2 and a half years later 18th in the Championship. Dougie is still well in credit with me in comparison to that chump.
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Re: Palace Game

Post by thebish » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:18 pm

boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Anyway see that some Palace fans are not happy with Holloway.

Their form has dipped since he took over.
Their players have probably turned into a bunch of fat, lazy bastards. Coyle MKII
no no no no no!!! that's well off script!!! the script is that Palace are ace and that a point away to Palace is gold-dust...

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Re: Palace Game

Post by thebish » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:20 pm

BL3 wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:
BL3 wrote:So he's only responsible for the good performances then?
Sigh. Go on then, I'll bite.

Freedman took over Palace when they were 2nd bottom in the Championship and left them 2nd (?) from the top.

Coyle took us down and then left when we were in 16th in the Championship.

That doesn't mean Dougie is ace but even you cant deny (can you?) that he built a good side at Palace.
What was Coyle's legacy at Bolton?
I couldn't care less what he did at Palace. I'm more concerned about what he's doing at Bolton. If he's responsible for the good performances, then he's also responsible for the poor ones.
no - you're never one to appeal to other teams and their managers in order to make a point about our team are you? oh... errrr...

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Re: Palace Game

Post by jaffka » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:22 pm

BL3 wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:
BL3 wrote:So he's only responsible for the good performances then?
Sigh. Go on then, I'll bite.

Freedman took over Palace when they were 2nd bottom in the Championship and left them 2nd (?) from the top.

Coyle took us down and then left when we were in 16th in the Championship.

That doesn't mean Dougie is ace but even you cant deny (can you?) that he built a good side at Palace.
What was Coyle's legacy at Bolton?
I couldn't care less what he did at Palace. I'm more concerned about what he's doing at Bolton. If he's responsible for the good performances, then he's also responsible for the poor ones.
what exactly are you constantly moaning about?

Coyle has gone, Freedman is here? get with it

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Re: Palace Game

Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:02 pm

To state the obvious, it's a lot easier for a manager to take a team down a league than it is to take one upwards. Ex Premier side or no, we went down and, contrary to expectations by some, aren't exactly dominating things right now. If Dougie should manage to get us into a chance position he'll be a hero, if not a villain. OC was in much the same position. We were never going too far up the Prem, and eventually, one win was the difference in even staying in it. We didn't.

Point is, fifty shades of grey doesn't even get near it for the rest. The fans reaction is perfectly normal but, if you've been one for less than ten years you've got a lot of similar situations to come. If you've been one for more than ten years..... you already know it. :wink:
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Re: Palace Game

Post by 89bwfc89 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:07 pm

I haven't really read this thread so apologies for the random input but I'd just like to add that I met Dan today. He IS who he says he is!

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Re: Palace Game

Post by Gary the Enfield » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:20 pm

89bwfc89 wrote:I haven't really read this thread so apologies for the random input but I'd just like to add that I met Dan today. He IS who he says he is!

I was stood two rows behind him when you introduced yourself. :D

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Re: Palace Game

Post by ChrisC » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:31 pm

89bwfc89 wrote:I haven't really read this thread so apologies for the random input but I'd just like to add that I met Dan today. He IS who he says he is!
Did he turn up with a label on his back saying "bwfcdan of't wanderer"? 8)
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Re: Palace Game

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:38 pm

89bwfc89 wrote:I haven't really read this thread so apologies for the random input but I'd just like to add that I met Dan today. He IS who he says he is!
I too found him in the seat number he said (conveniently next to the stairs) with the famous 3rd kit with the name on.

He is absolutely who he says he is and is a nice lad, as it goes.
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Re: Palace Game

Post by a1 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:40 am

BL3 wrote:
Coyle hasn't been in charge for the last 18 games. We were 16th when he went and we're still 16th now. The only difference is that we were only six points off the play-offs back then.
that just means #dougiecool loses fewer games.




.. and gets more points.

but whatever.

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Re: Palace Game

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:28 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
with the famous 3rd kit with the name on.
Did you know that it was him by dint of him managing to spell that incorrectly as well? :conf:
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Re: Palace Game

Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:43 am

It's blew all those rumours to bits
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